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MINDVVIPE wrote:*picks up gauntlet*
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I'd say it was nice knowing you ... but ... i'm not a nice person. Instead I shall offer this.

May you rip your eyes out and stuff them in your ears to save you from the crap fest that is Gabriel!

Burn wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:*picks up gauntlet*
Downloading now.

I'd say it was nice knowing you ... but ... i'm not a nice person. Instead I shall offer this.

May you rip your eyes out and stuff them in your ears to save you from the crap fest that is Gabriel!

Jokes on you, I already did that from watching DOTM! OOHH!! and we've come full circle
I'll be sure to let you know what I think after watching. Did you see it intoxicated in any way?

Any ideas why RotF was almost even in US domestic and foreign totals ($400 mil and $430 mil respectively, IIRC) and DotM is so lopsided (around $350 mil and $735 mil respectively). Was RotF not released in China like DotM was?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Any ideas why RotF was almost even in US domestic and foreign totals ($400 mil and $430 mil respectively, IIRC) and DotM is so lopsided (around $350 mil and $735 mil respectively). Was RotF not released in China like DotM was?

DotM performed better than ROTF in almost every country it was released in (which is roughly about 70 countries.) It all adds up to making it seem disproportionately bigger.

Here's a little something for the critics. http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies ... ost5085233

user named Ford on the Blu-ray.com forums wrote:I think the fact that the movies are based on a toy that is targeted to 8 year olds sort of makes it immune to any criticism. In fact, if a critic even bothers to write anything about these films, he really loses all credibility. They aren't made to win awards, advance the medium (well, except for the special effects department) or spark debate. Sometimes you just do shit for fun.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Autobot032 wrote:Here's a little something for the critics. http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies ... ost5085233

user named Ford on the Blu-ray.com forums wrote:I think the fact that the movies are based on a toy that is targeted to 8 year olds sort of makes it immune to any criticism. In fact, if a critic even bothers to write anything about these films, he really loses all credibility. They aren't made to win awards, advance the medium (well, except for the special effects department) or spark debate. Sometimes you just do shit for fun.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

The fact that it's a movie means it can be criticised till everyone is dead from lack of breath, regardless of where it originated from (saying anything otherwise is plain stupid, especially given the fact that when the movies were made, there was a ton of lore outside the back of the action figure box to add to the movie, like shows and comics).By this reasoning, you cannot say Transformers is a good movie either, since it is immune to any criticism, meaning anyones opinion on it is equally true, or equally false.
I'm all for fun in a movie, but unlike most people here, I'm not won over by eye candy alone. I guess I'm one of the few who thinks Transformers on a live-action scale deserves better than the "summer special effects blockbuster".

Must I remind people over and over again that tons of movies were made that started as comic book characters? I don't think comics were targeted to adults to begin with.

MINDVVIPE wrote:Must I remind people over and over again that tons of movies were made that started as comic book characters? I don't think comics were targeted to adults to begin with.

Heres a side note from a comic book historian.

The first "comic book" was not intended for children.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:Must I remind people over and over again that tons of movies were made that started as comic book characters? I don't think comics were targeted to adults to begin with.

Heres a side note from a comic book historian.

The first "comic book" was not intended for children.

Neither was looney toons, but that's where it formed the majority of its audience. Spiderman was made for teens to relate to.

MINDVVIPE wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:Must I remind people over and over again that tons of movies were made that started as comic book characters? I don't think comics were targeted to adults to begin with.

Heres a side note from a comic book historian.

The first "comic book" was not intended for children.

Neither was looney toons, but thats where it made its audience, and thats where it targeted itself once it was realized who desired to buy/read them.

Not quite.

Looney toons original audience was largely an adult movie goer back in the 1940's.

And they were quite popular.

Looney toons gained a kids its audience when they were placed on TV, in the mid 1960's.Thats around 20 years later.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:Must I remind people over and over again that tons of movies were made that started as comic book characters? I don't think comics were targeted to adults to begin with.

Heres a side note from a comic book historian.

The first "comic book" was not intended for children.

Neither was looney toons, but thats where it made its audience, and thats where it targeted itself once it was realized who desired to buy/read them.

Not quite.

Looney toons original audience was largely an adult movie goer back in the 1940's.

And they were quite popular.

Looney toons gained a kids its audience when they were placed on TV, in the mid 1960's.Thats around 20 years later.

Fair enough. But the show was initially targeted to adults to market sheet music and phonograph records, just like Transformers initially being used to market the toys. There really isn't any point trying to decide what exceptions we can apply to a current day movie. Its a movie, and it stands to be criticized by whoever watches it.