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Those figures are crazy.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:I'm curious as to how it's making so much money. With criticism, RotF potentially leaving a bad taste in people's mouths, sequels not always doing as well, fair amount of competition, etc., what exactly is drawing in so many people? 3D would help recoup some loses, but DotM seems to be doing so well so effortlessly, which is pretty neat actually.
Do Transformers/Bay/Spielberg have that much brand power?

Apparently more people liked ROTF than didn't.

Doubtful. DotM is doing really well most likely to word of mouth, and perhaps even on Bay's promise to make up for the disaster that was RotF. DotM turned out to be the best of the 3 films in every way and a lot of people have gone to see it repeatedly. I will go see it for the 5th time tomorrow night. Haven't seen it in a couple of weeks. Having said that, I did see RotF in theaters 4 times, as I was very impressed by the visuals and the action. But by the time it came out on DVD, that wore off, and I was left with a total utter **** of a story.

Except Sly's absolutely right. You don't hit $800+ million in ticket sales because people hate your movie. That's just a simple fact. Quite simply the Transformers films public opinion is vastly different than the opinion of critics and the vocal minority that dislike it. I figure we've come to that conclusion since 2007.

Edit: Oh, and it sold about 2 million DVDs right off the bat as well. Again, you don't get those numbers when people hate a movie.

Double Edit: Note I'm not saying you're wrong for disliking it either.

Capt.Failure wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:I'm curious as to how it's making so much money. With criticism, RotF potentially leaving a bad taste in people's mouths, sequels not always doing as well, fair amount of competition, etc., what exactly is drawing in so many people? 3D would help recoup some loses, but DotM seems to be doing so well so effortlessly, which is pretty neat actually.
Do Transformers/Bay/Spielberg have that much brand power?

Apparently more people liked ROTF than didn't.

Doubtful. DotM is doing really well most likely to word of mouth, and perhaps even on Bay's promise to make up for the disaster that was RotF. DotM turned out to be the best of the 3 films in every way and a lot of people have gone to see it repeatedly. I will go see it for the 5th time tomorrow night. Haven't seen it in a couple of weeks. Having said that, I did see RotF in theaters 4 times, as I was very impressed by the visuals and the action. But by the time it came out on DVD, that wore off, and I was left with a total utter **** of a story.

Except Sly's absolutely right. You don't hit $800+ million in ticket sales because people hate your movie. That's just a simple fact. Quite simply the Transformers films public opinion is vastly different than the opinion of critics and the vocal minority that dislike it. I figure we've come to that conclusion since 2007.

Edit: Oh, and it sold about 2 million DVDs right off the bat as well. Again, you don't get those numbers when people hate a movie.

Double Edit: Note I'm not saying you're wrong for disliking it either.

Oh, that's fine. I was just giving my take on it. Like I said, I saw it 4 times in theaters. I made my contribution. But viewpoints and opinions change with the passage of time, and I am sure I wasn't the only one. What I was trying to get at with my previous post that IMO most people didn't go see DotM because they loved RotF so much. They went because, well, it's a summer blockbuster about giant robots. And this one was about them much more than the previous 2. The TFs were actually center stage in DotM, except for Sam and Carly. And I'm sure Paramount's marketing department didn't slack off either.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:I'm curious as to how it's making so much money. With criticism, RotF potentially leaving a bad taste in people's mouths, sequels not always doing as well, fair amount of competition, etc., what exactly is drawing in so many people? 3D would help recoup some loses, but DotM seems to be doing so well so effortlessly, which is pretty neat actually.
Do Transformers/Bay/Spielberg have that much brand power?

Apparently more people liked ROTF than didn't.

Doubtful. DotM is doing really well most likely to word of mouth, and perhaps even on Bay's promise to make up for the disaster that was RotF. DotM turned out to be the best of the 3 films in every way and a lot of people have gone to see it repeatedly. I will go see it for the 5th time tomorrow night. Haven't seen it in a couple of weeks. Having said that, I did see RotF in theaters 4 times, as I was very impressed by the visuals and the action. But by the time it came out on DVD, that wore off, and I was left with a total utter **** of a story.

Except Sly's absolutely right. You don't hit $800+ million in ticket sales because people hate your movie. That's just a simple fact. Quite simply the Transformers films public opinion is vastly different than the opinion of critics and the vocal minority that dislike it. I figure we've come to that conclusion since 2007.

Edit: Oh, and it sold about 2 million DVDs right off the bat as well. Again, you don't get those numbers when people hate a movie.

Double Edit: Note I'm not saying you're wrong for disliking it either.

Oh, that's fine. I was just giving my take on it. Like I said, I saw it 4 times in theaters. I made my contribution. But viewpoints and opinions change with the passage of time, and I am sure I wasn't the only one. What I was trying to get at with my previous post that IMO most people didn't go see DotM because they loved RotF so much. They went because, well, it's a summer blockbuster about giant robots. And this one was about them much more than the previous 2. The TFs were actually center stage in DotM, except for Sam and Carly. And I'm sure Paramount's marketing department didn't slack off either.

This is true too. And it obviously worked.

Noideaforaname wrote:Do Transformers/Bay/Spielberg have that much brand power?

No.

A lot of people were thinking anything Transformers before the live action movie, GEEKY.

And simple minded people love complicated CGIs. Apparently they have never seen any of the cartoons before, that shows how little interaction the robots have with humans. (Kicker didnt have any jerking off scene)

This is the worst TF movie ever. Full of plot holes and waste of good characters ie shockwave, soundwave

XxsnipersnakexX wrote:And simple minded people love complicated CGIs.

I stopped reading when you stooped to insulting people for their tastes. Real mature there, buddy.

thanks

although I didnt think i was insulting anybody.

XxsnipersnakexX wrote:This is the worst TF movie ever. Full of plot holes and waste of good characters ie shockwave, soundwave

At last someone tells why he hates DOTM, well, that's why Bay said it will be the last movie...and that's why i think if bay changed his mind then the fourth movie should be a flashback.

XxsnipersnakexX wrote:thanks

although I didnt think i was insulting anybody.

Your ability to grasp sarcasm is poor. Calling people who enjoy CGI effects collectively simple minded is an insult no matter how you swing it.

Capt.Failure wrote:

XxsnipersnakexX wrote:thanks

although I didnt think i was insulting anybody.

Your ability to grasp sarcasm is poor. Calling people who enjoy CGI effects collectively simple minded is an insult no matter how you swing it.

Yeah, I could definitely be insulted by that if I chose to.

I'm a majorly visual person. I thrive on seeing cool things. Not hearing it, not reading it, seeing it. And it inspires me to make cool visuals too.

Visuals aren't as simple as you seem to believe them be. It is an art....there is depth, passion, and real thought that goes behind every frame you see, regardless of whether you see or notice it. I can see it, and I enjoy it. :/

If you don't mind me asking, XxsnipersnakexX, what kind of person are you? tactile, visual, audial, etc?

edit: fixed an amazingly funny typo XD

Transformers: Dark Of The Moon has found its way into the 5th spot of the highest grossing movies of all time behind Avatar, Titanic, Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallow Part 2 and The Lord Of The Rings: Return Of The King.

This also makes DOTM the 10th billion dollar grossing movie in history. With only $47.8 million separating DOTM and Return Of The King, will Transformers have the staying power to move up on the chart before the end of its run?

Avatar at #1? My faith in humanity is practically non-existent at this point.

5?? O_o

Even I didn't see that coming. I am truly stunned by this news. I'm incredibly shocked and surprised. It's a pleasant surprise, no doubt, but wow.

If Hasbro doesn't make a sequel, they're out of their collective mind.

Though, it could be argued that they should end on a high note while the gettin's good. I doubt it though, they'll milk this for all it's worth and I can't say I blame 'em.

Treetop Maximus wrote:Avatar at #1? My faith in humanity is practically non-existent at this point.

Skyline earned enough money to warrent a sequel, so I lost my faith in humanity way earlier.

WoW!!! Just WOW!! I'm happy that it made alot of "dough", but now I dont see how Hasbro is going to let go of this franchise. Just hope it doesn't turn to crap like Aliens, or Shrek, or Ice Age, or AVP, or Saw. (oh I forgot...Saw was always garbage.)

Capt.Failure wrote:

Treetop Maximus wrote:Avatar at #1? My faith in humanity is practically non-existent at this point.

Skyline earned enough money to warrent a sequel, so I lost my faith in humanity way earlier.

I was so pumped to see that movie...

...Then I saw it's IMDb page.

I bought a copy of Skyline and it's actually an excellent direct-to-video movie, or at least what we trash-lovers used to call direct-to-video (direct-to-dvd doesn't have quite the same ring or connotation, I think). I also genuinely admire its makers for being able to talk ANY studio into backing them and getting this sort of nonsense into the theatres in the first place.

Even the commentary tracks on this one's dvd are fun and worth listening to. And yes, everyone involved with this movie was perfectly aware that they were making video trash and what's more, they had a darn good time doing so. Their tongue-in-cheek attitude comes through in the finished product and is a large part of why I quite enjoy this crazy little film...

Oh, and good for DOTM for breaking its billion cherry--yay! Once was enough for me at the theatre, but I WILL buy the dvd.

Some of you are so sensitive, its pretty funny, haha.
I think everyone knows by now that I didn't care for the movies, so by extension I don't care that it made it this high on the board.

I think most people saw this movie since it was marketed the hell out to the public.
+ kids
+ TF fans
And you have a huge number of ticket payers.

I'm not saying movie critics are the voice of reason in regards to these movies, as lots of movies I love are rated low on rotten tomatoes, but I think I know why TF "fans" (some just like the movie coz of Transforming robots, but don't know anything more than the movie) like these movies, and it seems to be mainly due to the visual content (as some of you have professed to already).


Now, i'm not trying to be mean, but I do feel that liking a Transformers movie mainly for the visual content is somewhat of a weak reason to like a movie. I'm not saying its bad that you like the CGI, but I'm urging people to demand more from their movie experience. I dug the visuals, sure. But to me, and I'm sure to a lot of you, your eyes > brain see it as nothing but fake visuals. Thats simply the folly of CGI, no way around it. But if you add character, and story, and plot, you end up with a helluva good reason to overlook this instinctual response in your brain and actually become emotionally attached to the characters, and further, to the movie.
Of course this is the film industry today, and why more and more movies with better CGI gather more public interest > more CGI movies > loop

There (should be) more to movies than just CGI (albeit amazing); more than just nostalgia throwbacks, and mainly, more story. Less formulaic a progression of events would help too. It seemed like Sam is always going to be saved at just the right time. Its good once in a while for suspense, but when hes falling, and I don't care about the outcome coz I know hes going to be saved, the movie has in that instance failed. I could go on citing examples , but I hope I made my points with clarity

Oh, and if anyone comes at me with that "It's a kids' movie" comment, I will sock you!
Just because a movie is for the youth doesn't mean it doesn't need good storytelling.

Fingers crossed gentlemen, let's hope that DOTM beats Harry Potter. I will not allow my beloved hobby get their rear-ends handed over by some nerdy kid that can make things go poof! Harry Potter fans, commence maiming...

It's number 5 of all time....who cares if it beats Harry Potter? I mean, it's beaten HUGE box office winners such as Toy Story 3. It's a winning success. It doesn't have to be THE winner of all time.

Enjoy what we have, geez.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Suck on that, Hairy Pothead.

Are you sure we ain't related?

But seriously though, I'll never understand the hate on DOTM. I thought it was one of the best Transformers movies I've seen, and the only thing I didn't like about it was Ironhide's death. Ironhide was just way to badass to die like that! Agreeing with Treetop Maximus, Geewuners can be elitists. Although I'm a tad bit Geewun myself, I rather welcome new brands, so long as the story line is nice and taught and the toys aren't god awful/aren't a waste of cash.

LOST Cybertronian wrote: With only $47.8 million separating DOTM and Return Of The King, will Transformers have the staying power to move up on the chart before the end of its run?

It should be in theaters through next weekend, it can scrounge up $50 mil worldwide in 12 days, can't it?

And I never saw Avatar. Never had the urge. Should I feel proud or stupid?

Biddybot wrote: Once was enough for me at the theatre, but I WILL buy the dvd.

NO! You must go see it again and again and AGAIN!!!

And I kinda wanted to see Skyline but never got to. Might watch it on DVD now...

Rodimus Prime wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote: With only $47.8 million separating DOTM and Return Of The King, will Transformers have the staying power to move up on the chart before the end of its run?

It should be in theaters through next weekend, it can scrounge up $50 mil worldwide in 12 days, can't it?

And I never saw Avatar. Never had the urge. Should I feel proud or stupid?

Proud... maybe. Its not a bad movie, but its nothing amazing as many make it out to be.
It was better than DOTM tho.
I'm gonna take the rap for that sooooo bad, haha.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote: With only $47.8 million separating DOTM and Return Of The King, will Transformers have the staying power to move up on the chart before the end of its run?

It should be in theaters through next weekend, it can scrounge up $50 mil worldwide in 12 days, can't it?

And I never saw Avatar. Never had the urge. Should I feel proud or stupid?

Well I've seen the movie and to be honest, the more times I watch it, the more I like it. (Considering I've hated the movie because i thought it was simply overrated, which it still kinda is.)