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DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby UltraMaximus » Wed May 14, 2014 10:42 pm

I am taking DC Comics and putting them against Marvel Comics. Which one is cooler? I pit them against each other in 11 different categories: Heroes, villains, movies, TV, toys, video games, collectibles/props, animated movies, styles/universe, cross overs, and story arcs/graphic novels.

Who will in??????

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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Shadowman » Thu May 15, 2014 12:09 pm

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It's apples and oranges, man. There is no correct, objective answer.

And seriously, ditch the camcorder. Filming the screen causes massive quality loss. At the very least get a tripod so you stop shaking it around. But more importantly, get some proper video editing software.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby UltraMaximus » Sun May 18, 2014 2:21 am

It is always apples and oranges.

And I just use my cell phone. Just a hobby not investing $500 on a camera and tripod.

Thanks for trolling though!

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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Shadowman » Sun May 18, 2014 2:32 am

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UltraMaximus wrote:It is always apples and oranges.

And I just use my cell phone. Just a hobby not investing $500 on a camera and tripod.

Thanks for trolling though!

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I'm not trolling. I'm being honest. Not a lot of people can tell the difference these days, though, they'd just prefer to think of it as "trolling" so they don't have to think.

And on that note, your video quality is terrible and your videos themselves suffer for it. You can call me a troll all you like, but the only way to improvement is through accepting criticism. The alternative is, at best, stagnation.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby UltraMaximus » Sun May 18, 2014 2:46 am

Yes. You are a troll. Thanks for being hateful for zero reason. I hope it helps your low self esteem. Good luck in life! Peace love and hard liquor!!!
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Burn » Sun May 18, 2014 3:43 am

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But for the record, DC sucks. New 52 is pathetic, and no longer really new.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby MGrotusque » Sun May 18, 2014 5:32 am

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But for the record, DC sucks. New 52 is pathetic, and no longer really new.

Couldn't have said it better myself but i tried chekin out the new 52 Swamp Thing. Because i've been reading the Allen Moore Swamp Thing Saga as of late. The new 52 SwampThing is a bust.

Marvel wins hands down.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Burn » Sun May 18, 2014 5:45 am

Swamp Thing and Animal Man are probably the most enjoyable of New 52.

The only thing more boring than Superman's books is Wonder Woman's, but at least she's not going to have John Romita Jr. on the art.

Marvel have screwed up lately, "All-New" Ghost Rider ... original X-Men in present day complete with their own on-going series ... re-booted X-Factor, even with PAD still writing it's not as good as his last volume. The Avengers will this Incursion storyline is blah blah blah gone on long enough get it over with already. Guardians of the Galaxy has lost the fun it had since it's last run, and Kid Nova? ugh ...

Oh and of course New Warriors, Speedball is back to his younger happier self like Stamford and Penance never happened.

Know what's really good at the moment? Afterlife with Archie.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Dead Metal » Sun May 18, 2014 11:09 am

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If you're not serious about this then why the hell do you keep posting links to these in their own threads and in posts on other threads, and why do your videos have an intro?

Don't want to sound like an ass, but Shadowman is right, the whole filming the screen thing makes everything look terrible.

Using your phone isn't a problem if you're filming yourself or a subject like in a toy review, but if the video is supposed to be just you talking over pictures like here, then you need to use a video editing software to create the video and then splice your audio over it.

Windows Movie maker is free, assuming you're on PC, and if not, there are some pretty good open source alternatives. Using any of that doesn't cost you anything, but improve the quality of your videos greatly.

And that's really all it's about in this business, video quality. If it doesn't look good, people will go elsewhere, hell I've read comments of people complaining that they're disappointed in the vlogger because his videos are only in Full HD instead of 4K.

You could also get a cheap phone tripod, or make one yourself. Just try to match the quality your intro promises.



As for the subject at hand, it's a really mixed bag, but Superhero wise I would say it goes to Marvel because their characters are more interesting to me. The DC Superheroes just kinda feel odd and bland whenever I try to get into them, they actually kinda seem like KO characters somehow. Kinda like you're watching a movie that's a homage to something specific, they appear odd and weird. On to of that the numerous reboots, retcons and reboots and retcons of the previous reboots and retcons don't give me much faith in those books. I was kinda interested in trying DC again with their "New 52", since they claimed it was a clean fresh new start reboot, but it's not really. In some cases it just looked like an excuse to sell a new #01, like what Marvel did with "Marvel Now", just Marvel didn't claim it was a reboot and fresh new start.

However DC has Marvel beat in the whole graphic novel business, but that's mostly due to Alan Moore. Alan Moore's run on Sage of the Swamp-Thing is one of the greatest comic reads ever, I've enjoyed it far more than Watchmen or V for Vendetta.

Marvel does have really good ghs, but they're for the most part not of the same quality as Moore's work, which is a bad argument I know and it'S kinda unfair, but it's the truth. I mean, I don't give a toss about Swamp-Thing, or the characters that guest star in it, but damn I love that series so much, and Moore manages to make the (to me) odd DC characters seem kinda interesting.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Shadowman » Sun May 18, 2014 11:23 am

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UltraMaximus wrote:Yes. You are a troll. Thanks for being hateful for zero reason. I hope it helps your low self esteem. Good luck in life! Peace love and hard liquor!!!


I'm not trolling or being hateful. Stop burying your head in the sand, I'm trying to help you here.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Maggotron » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:30 pm

I'd say they have different approaches. DC Comics tries to preserve the Golden Age style of superheroics, in a way that was sort of spoofed by Astro City. Marvel meanwhile is a bit more human, as in, it shows more of the human side of superhumans.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Acelister » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:53 am

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Dead Metal wrote:As for the subject at hand, it's a really mixed bag, but Superhero wise I would say it goes to Marvel because their characters are more interesting to me. The DC Superheroes just kinda feel odd and bland whenever I try to get into them, they actually kinda seem like KO characters somehow. Kinda like you're watching a movie that's a homage to something specific, they appear odd and weird. On to of that the numerous reboots, retcons and reboots and retcons of the previous reboots and retcons don't give me much faith in those books. I was kinda interested in trying DC again with their "New 52", since they claimed it was a clean fresh new start reboot, but it's not really. In some cases it just looked like an excuse to sell a new #01, like what Marvel did with "Marvel Now", just Marvel didn't claim it was a reboot and fresh new start.

However DC has Marvel beat in the whole graphic novel business, but that's mostly due to Alan Moore. Alan Moore's run on Sage of the Swamp-Thing is one of the greatest comic reads ever, I've enjoyed it far more than Watchmen or V for Vendetta.

Marvel does have really good ghs, but they're for the most part not of the same quality as Moore's work, which is a bad argument I know and it'S kinda unfair, but it's the truth. I mean, I don't give a toss about Swamp-Thing, or the characters that guest star in it, but damn I love that series so much, and Moore manages to make the (to me) odd DC characters seem kinda interesting.

DC has some old graphic novels that are good. Watchmen, Batman Year One, Alan Moore's Swamp Thing... But that's old graphic novels. The collected stuff since the New 52 is hilariously bad, in time taken to print if not quality.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Batman-Death-Fa ... rds=batman - came out in May this year. The storyline ended in Batman #17, dated February. 2013.

Wonder Woman and Batman are the only New 52 titles with any constant quality. The others have varied, most have suffered from bad editorial decisions. I laughed loudly when I heard this September's event will jump storylines ahead 7 years or something. DC won't have any of the current teams ON these books by then, so why let them seed storylines? We'll get Supergirl complimenting Power Girl's new costume in one issue, then in the next insulting it - ten minutes later. New writers rarely agree with past ones - which is why Hobgoblin was "really" Ned Leeds in the '90s.

As for Marvel, they have a rich history they aren't afraid to alter if needs be. Rather than reboot they just retcon what they don't like. Like kids. "My laser hit you!" "Nu-uh, I got a shield!"
But not as badly as DC, at least. Just Spider-Man and anything involving time travel.

Oh, and Hickman shouldn't be allowed more than one title... I simply can't follow his Avengers stuff. Too long winded.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:58 am

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I wonder if DC will be able to piece together their series of movies like Marvel has. I'm not sure if Man of Steel was supposed to be the 1st, I doubt Nolan's Batman films are included, and I never saw Green Lantern. How about the TV shows? Are DC's TV shows building up to or filling in between the pieces of the movie universe? These are just random questions, I don't watch any superhero TV shows. Just wondering.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:57 am

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DC movies are connected starting the Batman vs Superman movie, they are playing catchup and arereally far behind. The more I hear about BvS the more Iget wworried as they seem to be cramming as much as possible into it to set up the justice league movie.

On the tv show side of things only Flash and Arrow are connected. Everything else are in their own dimension. It would be great if Flash and Arrow, Constantine were part of the new DC movieverse but they already said no to that.

Personally I think DC should stick to making an connected animated universe again.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Shadowman » Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:51 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:DC movies are connected starting the Batman vs Superman movie, they are playing catchup and arereally far behind. The more I hear about BvS the more Iget wworried as they seem to be cramming as much as possible into it to set up the justice league movie.


Yeah, the trick to the MCU is that they gave each of the characters their own movie to be established and developed in, so they didn't have to waste time introducing and explaining each character, just give them a bit of character development and get to fightin'.

ZeroWolf wrote:On the tv show side of things only Flash and Arrow are connected. Everything else are in their own dimension. It would be great if Flash and Arrow, Constantine were part of the new DC movieverse but they already said no to that.


Aw, that sucks, I would have loved to see Barry and Ollie in there.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Duke of Luns » Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:11 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Personally I think DC should stick to making an connected animated universe again.


That would be awesome. Right now Disney/Marvel has an animated universe, and while there are some serious flaws in it(Ulimate Spidey is usually sub-par at best), I do appreciate their willingness to have at least some shared continuity and a wide array of characters. Oh, and Guardians of the Galaxy's getting it's own show soon too, so that could widen the scope even further.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:54 pm

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@Shadowman I know, it doesn't make sense to cast a new Green Arrow or flash for the movies when they have two willing and waiting. The Constantine series could be the perfect set up for the justice league dark movie.

@Duke My friend tried to get me into ultimate spidey but he failed, just thought they were trying to hard with the comedy in it.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Duke of Luns » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:00 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:@Duke My friend tried to get me into ultimate spidey but he failed, just thought they were trying to hard with the comedy in it.


Doesn't surprise me at all, a lot of the comedy falls flat, and one episode has a naked Juggernaut :SICK: . I guess I keep watching Ultimate Spidey to see what characters/cameos are in it, and cause well, it's Spidey. I can't trumpet very many of it's successes at all, shame since it does have some good animation. It did have an episode with Man-Thing, which I did enjoy. A new season just started, and the opening two-parter was pretty good, with the Avengers guest starring. I'm actually looking forward to later in the season though when Spidey teams up with Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Ham, and Spider-Man Noir.

Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H. is slightly better. It has it's flaws too, but most of the time they actually act like a team with some character, unlike Ultimate Spidey where the Power Man, Iron Fist, White Tiger, and Nova are usually an afterthought.

Avengers Assemble is the best of the bunch, well, after a terribly rushed pilot. Not as good as Earth's Mightiest Heroes but it's not without charm.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:39 pm

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I've seen a few shows like that. I've been wanting to check out the new avengers show, but I've heard a lot of good stuff about earths mightiest heroes.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Shadowman » Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:02 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:I've seen a few shows like that. I've been wanting to check out the new avengers show, but I've heard a lot of good stuff about earths mightiest heroes.


EMH was amazing, at least in the first season, it started to falter once Jeph Loeb took over.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby babylon queen » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:21 pm

I wish they would actual work against or team up with each other.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby babylon queen » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:21 pm

I wish they would actual work against or team up with each other.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:21 am

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They have in the past with anagram comics where they fused their characters.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby Shadowman » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:47 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:They have in the past with anagram comics where they fused their characters.


Amalgam Comics, which came about after a 4-issue crossover event. And there was another crossover abo9ut 10 years ago.

Incidentally, one of them is still canon in both universes; Hawkeye is, canonically, the only character to officially be part of both the Avengers and the Justice League.
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Re: DC Comics VS Marvel Comics

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:31 pm

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Shadowman wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:They have in the past with anagram comics where they fused their characters.


Amalgam Comics, which came about after a 4-issue crossover event. And there was another crossover abo9ut 10 years ago.

Incidentally, one of them is still canon in both universes; Hawkeye is, canonically, the only character to officially be part of both the Avengers and the Justice League.

Ahhh I knew I got the spelling wrong, just didn't have the time to correct it. Thanks :)
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