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Postby GlauG » Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:09 am

Ever since WarWithin, I just figure the G1 Dinobots were created and Programed with Cybertrons best Guerilla taske force bots in mind. Wheeljack couldn't get them perfect (aka "DINOBOTS SMASH!!") but was able to reproduce 60% or so of their original prsonality. Or if you wanna think of it another way, TM2 Dinobot was a clone of the original one with a completely different spark, but in time BECAME a resurrected orginal Dinobot (more or less.)



Thing is, War Within leads to a continuity where Grimlock and the other Dinobots simply came to Earth in another shuttle after the Ark, if my memory of DW G1 V2 is right. The DW comics tie into their own continuity rather than the cartoon... War Within contradicts the G1 Cartoon's backstory in many places anyway. We're stuck with 3 distinct G1 continuities: US Cartoon, UK/US Marvel comic, and DW Comic, which War Within is a prequel to, and which /could/ be the 'composite' G1 storyline that Beast Wars follows on from (it's certainly hinted that that's what DW wanted it to be).

The 'Bash is excellent, my only comment is that he needs a bigger butt :P
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Postby Tramp » Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:02 am

GlauG is correct. The DW continuity is different than the old Cartoon continuity and the Marvel continuity. It is based upon the toys backstories as stated in their bio-cards. It takes some elements from both the old cartoons and Marvel comics, but rejects others in favor of what the toys said about each of the characters. Read the character bios in TF:More than Meets the Eye for Grimlock and the other Dinobots. They don?t mention anything about Wheeljack building them, nor of them being built on Earth. They came from Cybertron and had Cybertronian forms. Originally, they went by the name Dynabots as in Dynamite.
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Postby Dark_Fool » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:25 am

Well, I took him back and redid the head, here's the result...

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and this one's for you Glaug, titled "Does my bum look big in this?"
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Re: Decepticon Inferno

Postby GlauG » Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:17 pm

Dark_Fool wrote:
and this one's for you Glaug, titled "Does my bum look big in this?"
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Bwahahahaha! Awesome! Makes me think of Antagony, the Botcon repaint...



Originally, they went by the name Dynabots as in Dynamite.


Not as in Dynamo? Dynamite seems kinda archaic for TF's, but I know nothing of this either way. Don't remember it from the MTMTE books.
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Postby TM doomtron » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:31 pm

somethin different i like it!
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Postby @l3x » Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:03 pm

can we see alt. mode pics?
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Postby Dark_Fool » Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:16 am

yeeeeeee... no...

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rest are here...
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Re: Decepticon Inferno

Postby Dark_Fool » Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:18 am

GlauG wrote:Bwahahahaha! Awesome! Makes me think of Antagony, the Botcon repaint...



I'd like to make an antagony, but I'd need another inferno head

.. or maybe a TM Scavenger head
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Postby Soundwarp » Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:28 am

Nice one!
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Re: Decepticon Inferno

Postby GlauG » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:05 pm

Dark_Fool wrote:
GlauG wrote:Bwahahahaha! Awesome! Makes me think of Antagony, the Botcon repaint...



I'd like to make an antagony, but I'd need another inferno head

.. or maybe a TM Scavenger head


You know, I think I can help you there... With a recast at the very least. I have a dismantled TM Scavenger...


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..Somewhere. <_<;
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Postby Pun-3X » Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:29 pm

I love the way this turned out. Never figured that head would match up with the body.

Hey Glaug, any luck with molding a Meister head yet, sans visor?
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Postby GlauG » Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:08 pm

Pun-3X wrote:Hey Glaug, any luck with molding a Meister head yet, sans visor?


New job means I've not had much time for kitbashy stuff. The Meister mould I did make comes out okayish, but I'm a perfectionist...

EDIT: I mis-typed "perfectionist". Oiee...
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Postby Dark_Fool » Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:57 pm

GlauG wrote:
Pun-3X wrote:Hey Glaug, any luck with molding a Meister head yet, sans visor?


New job means I've not had much time for kitbashy stuff. The Meister mould I did make comes out okayish, but I'm a perfectionist...

EDIT: I mis-typed "perfectionist". Oiee...


*gasps* the plot thickens like so many chinese take aways
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Postby GlauG » Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:59 am

Dark_Fool wrote:
GlauG wrote:
New job means I've not had much time for kitbashy stuff. The Meister mould I did make comes out okayish, but I'm a perfectionist...

EDIT: I mis-typed "perfectionist". Oiee...


*gasps* the plot thickens like so many chinese take aways


:P Well, I prefer to make my own rather than get takeaway, but that's beside the point. Anyhoo, if I stumble across that Scavenger head, I'll let you know... or I could cast up my BW Inferno one... (Only just remembered I had one again)
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Postby Dark_Fool » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:14 am

Inferno's giving me creepy looks now.... I'm not sure I like this bash, he's being scary...
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Re: Decepticon Inferno

Postby GlauG » Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:04 am

Dark_Fool wrote:Inferno's giving me creepy looks now.... I'm not sure I like this bash, he's being scary...


It's when you hear him saying "Yesss, my queen..." that you should worry...
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Postby RavageX-9 » Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:18 am

you could swap it so that the rear tank treads become his arms and the large gun goes behind him. there's room inside the tank treads for fore-arms.
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Postby Dark_Fool » Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:23 pm

RavageX-9 wrote:you could swap it so that the rear tank treads become his arms and the large gun goes behind him. there's room inside the tank treads for fore-arms.


then what would he use as a gun??? besides, I like him this way, looks nasty
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Postby Anthony-aggro » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:54 am

Tramp wrote:GlauG is correct. The DW continuity is different than the old Cartoon continuity and the Marvel continuity. It is based upon the toys backstories as stated in their bio-cards. It takes some elements from both the old cartoons and Marvel comics, but rejects others in favor of what the toys said about each of the characters. Read the character bios in TF:More than Meets the Eye for Grimlock and the other Dinobots. They don?t mention anything about Wheeljack building them, nor of them being built on Earth. They came from Cybertron and had Cybertronian forms. Originally, they went by the name Dynabots as in Dynamite.


War Within fits better with the marvel Comics continuity. war Within was written by Simon Furman, who was the Writer for transformers at most of Marvel U.K. and the last one for Marvel US. He had to fix all ofthe losse ends and try to make things work into a single continuity. The Bob Budiansky, as well as favoered by Furman, idea that was in the Comics was that the dinobots were awakened on the ark during the days of the Dinosaurs, actually Marvels Savage Land, to battle the newly arrived Shockwave. They defeated him, but were lost in a pool of tar and later searched out by Buster the comics version of Spike, actually spikes little brother) and Ratchet when the decepticons had captiured Optimus Prime and were using the Matrix program from his head to try to create new Decepticons. I always thought of the War Within Dynobots, as in Dynamic. I like their first two series of War Within subgroup name better. LSC = Lightening Strike Coalition.


BTW. Nice BW Inferno. the only thing I don't like about the Shockblast body is that it has a cruddy alt mode. You should work on adding something more to it.
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Postby Dark_Fool » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:23 am

I have a quick request... can someone digi bash my inferno in vehicle mode with the arms from BW Inferno's bot mode attached to the rear sets of tank treads and deployed like how the siege tank in Starcraft works please? It's an idea I've been poking around with mentally.

Considering this bash has taken more time than any other I've done thus far (even my Megatron) I'm pleased with the results. For months he'd sit there begging for me to do something but I was stuck with the bloody head problem (namely hiding the face in alt mode). I like him as he is, but I may be convinced to do more, hence I'm asking for the digi bash to see if it will work rather than mangling a perfectly good bash.
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Postby GlauG » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:32 am

Anthony-aggro wrote:
War Within fits better with the marvel Comics continuity. war Within was written by Simon Furman, who was the Writer for transformers at most of Marvel U.K. and the last one for Marvel US. He had to fix all ofthe losse ends and try to make things work into a single continuity. The Bob Budiansky, as well as favoered by Furman, idea that was in the Comics was that the dinobots were awakened on the ark during the days of the Dinosaurs, actually Marvels Savage Land, to battle the newly arrived Shockwave. They defeated him, but were lost in a pool of tar and later searched out by Buster the comics version of Spike, actually spikes little brother) and Ratchet when the decepticons had captiured Optimus Prime and were using the Matrix program from his head to try to create new Decepticons. I always thought of the War Within Dynobots, as in Dynamic. I like their first two series of War Within subgroup name better. LSC = Lightening Strike Coalition.



War Within might better suit the Marvel Continuity but for a few things;
It contradicts loads of things from the Marvel Comics, not just backstory, including who Prime was before he inherited the Matrix (DW continuity, he was an archivist/statistician, Marvel he was commander of the Autobot Air Force leading to bitterness from Swoop), Prime and Megatron's pre-war Gladiatorial careers, and there's a distinct lack of major players like the old Autobot Council (Especially Xaaron). There were no "Special Teams" in Marvel until far later as well, no TF's combined in Cybertron's History like they did in War Within part 2.
The DW comics continuity runs directly on from the 3 War Within series, including the (admittedly terrible) Micromasters line. WW is an alternate Cybertronian history to the Marvel one, and can't really be reconciled simply because it's so different. Sure, it's Furman re-writing Cybertronian History, but it doesn't work if you try and have it be part of his earlier G1 work.

The LSC was only the name for the Dinobots and Kup in WWi2, as well. Volume 1, they were all 'Autobots'.

Plus... what did that have to do with Tramp's comment? >_>; It was already kind of established that both sets of comics had far less crappy Dinobot origins to the US cartoon.
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Postby Anthony-aggro » Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:22 pm

I just wanted to elaborate a bit on the comic origion of the dinobots in the marvel series and a bit on the Dreamwave one. I am not well read on Simons UK releases and background. What I know about that comes from interviews and talking to other Transfans.
As the come more available to me, I will try to get read up on the stuff.

I do know that Simon is using the newer dreamwave and now IDW platforms to better create a more fluent continuity for the transformers.

i do like the LSC as an group idea rather than the name dynobots. It better fits the idea of a group allegiance, coalition, than prefabricated group.
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Postby Dark_Fool » Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:17 pm

Gordon Bloody Bennett! How the hell did all this start?

and can someone do that digi bash or no?
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Postby Tramp » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:27 pm

Anthony-aggro wrote:I just wanted to elaborate a bit on the comic origion of the dinobots in the marvel series and a bit on the Dreamwave one. I am not well read on Simons UK releases and background. What I know about that comes from interviews and talking to other Transfans.
As the come more available to me, I will try to get read up on the stuff.

I do know that Simon is using the newer dreamwave and now IDW platforms to better create a more fluent continuity for the transformers.

i do like the LSC as an group idea rather than the name dynobots. It better fits the idea of a group allegiance, coalition, than prefabricated group.


Well, the LSC was a splinter group of the Autobots that was created after Prime?s disappearance. It was made up of more than just the Dynobots. It also included other Autobots. The Dynobots was Grimlock?s personal squad?the original five, Grimlock included? and are what later became the Dinobots.
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Postby Josh » Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:12 pm

clever
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