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Valandar wrote:

gbm wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Here's another: prioritizing gimmicks over designs.

Like most of us here, I'll take an accurate design over a kung-fu chop gimmick any day!

But kids, who are the primary customer targets, would rather it do something cool - and nowadays, just transforming isn't enough.

Ive always hated any toy with an action gimmick. even when i was a kid it aggravated me to no end that i couldnt make a certain toy do a pose because he was limited because his arm/arms or waist was used for a kung fu chop or some swing attack.

Articulation is the best "gimmick" Im sure i wasnt the only one to think this way as a kid.

I think its more of them thinking kids want a gimmick to make it more fun.

as for colors...well things change during production probably comes down to price and what they think looks better. or what they think kids may think looks better.

How does one explain Leaders Ironhide and Jetfire coming out blue? Or RotF Voyager Megatron coming out green?

Mykltron wrote:How does one explain Leaders Ironhide and Jetfire coming out blue? Or RotF Voyager Megatron coming out green?

LSD

I think that has to do with their desire to keep the line visually diverse and appealing to children and parents. A lot of movie designs are metallic greyish, especially Megatron, Ironhide and Jetfire lack colour.

So rather than make screen-accurate but boring decos, they chose similar tones that give the robot some more oomph. RotF Voyager Megatron's green seems to be based on him being rusty and rotten from lying underwater.

Regardless of the reason...

I still find myself laughing at myself for letting something like NO GOLD WHEELS on Knock Out being the reason for not buying him.

Can you paint them you think? (would it look ok?)

FortMacs wrote:Articulation is the best "gimmick" Im sure i wasnt the only one to think this way as a kid.

I thought like that, too. Transformation was enough of a gimmick for me. I won't say no to something sweet like hidden weapons or the like but it hast to be well done and not compromise the other modes. If the gimmick is seriously amazing in concept and in execution I can overlook a slightly flawed robot mode but I don't know what kind of gimmick that would be. A really good combiner, maybe?

Mykltron wrote:How does one explain Leaders Ironhide and Jetfire coming out blue? Or RotF Voyager Megatron coming out green?

I'm not sure what you mean. DOTM Leader Ironhide and ROTF Leader Jetfire are both black, with some blue inside-parts. It's a design decision that you may not like, but I wouldn't call that an "OBVIOUS mess up".

To me, an obvious mess up is something more along the lines of a figure that can't stand up in bot mode because it has too much back kibble, or something like that.

GuyIncognito wrote:

Mykltron wrote:How does one explain Leaders Ironhide and Jetfire coming out blue? Or RotF Voyager Megatron coming out green?

I'm not sure what you mean. DOTM Leader Ironhide and ROTF Leader Jetfire are both black, with some blue inside-parts. It's a design decision that you may not like, but I wouldn't call that an "OBVIOUS mess up".

To me, an obvious mess up is something more along the lines of a figure that can't stand up in bot mode because it has too much back kibble, or something like that.

I agree that robots that can't stand is an obvious mess up but so is a black robot who's toy looks like he's wearing blue trousers. Go and take another look at Jetfire - he has blue external parts all over, as well as white. In the film he's black with gold parts.