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Cyber Bishop wrote:Let's keep religion out of this.

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I didn't mean to bring religion into the discussion as I just meant to joke around and make a reference to a wacky idea from the Authority comic.

Sometimes all it takes is one and the snowball effect happens y'know. I am just trying to keep things from diverting to another subject and de-railing the thread.

I totally understand! Yeah, it doesn't take much to get things off track and then trouble brews.

Back to the topic, I wonder what, if any, affect this new ownership will have on Marvel's animated work. I mean, Disney is a premiere entity in the world of animation(though I'm not a big fan of its work within the last decade or so).

If there's one big advantage that DC has over Marvel is the quality of their animated media. DC has produced better quality animation and have amazing development staff like the legendary Bruce Timm. The worst of the DCAU rivals the best of the Marvel animated works. People will cite X-Men Evolution and Wolverine and the X-Men, which are good but nowhere as great in my opinion as Justice League and JLU in terms of animation and story.

Superman The Animated Series and Batman TAS both tapped into the essence of the title characters while bringing them into contemporary settings(though both contain graphic elements that hearken to past periods such as the use of art deco in BTAS). All of the Marvel animated efforts seemed to be on the same path of kind of knowing the core of the source material but tries to re-invent without a strong sense of direction. The X-Men series always go on the mutant vs human thing, which is a vital element of the comics but it's the single note that every X-Men cartoon plays over, and over, and over again. Justice League and JLU had variety in their stories and were able to work single episodes as well as multiple episode story arcs, dealing with a fair variety of plot ideas.

The only recent animated work by Marvel that stands out in my mind as an equal to DC efforts is the Hulk vs Thor and Hulk vs Wolverine animated features. I really enjoyed both on the animation and story sides. They really got to the center of the characters' origin and gave them a nice current twist. They're recognizable but fresh. Now with Disney's ownership, backing, and resources not only financially but in terms of animation studios...will we see a Marvel animated renaissance?

Convotron wrote:I totally understand! Yeah, it doesn't take much to get things off track and then trouble brews.

Back to the topic, I wonder what, if any, affect this new ownership will have on Marvel's animated work. I mean, Disney is a premiere entity in the world of animation(though I'm not a big fan of its work within the last decade or so).

If there's one big advantage that DC has over Marvel is the quality of their animated media. DC has produced better quality animation and have amazing development staff like the legendary Bruce Timm. The worst of the DCAU rivals the best of the Marvel animated works. People will cite X-Men Evolution and Wolverine and the X-Men, which are good but nowhere as great in my opinion as Justice League and JLU in terms of animation and story.

Superman The Animated Series and Batman TAS both tapped into the essence of the title characters while bringing them into contemporary settings(though both contain graphic elements that hearken to past periods such as the use of art deco in BTAS). All of the Marvel animated efforts seemed to be on the same path of kind of knowing the core of the source material but tries to re-invent without a strong sense of direction. The X-Men series always go on the mutant vs human thing, which is a vital element of the comics but it's the single note that every X-Men cartoon plays over, and over, and over again. Justice League and JLU had variety in their stories and were able to work single episodes as well as multiple episode story arcs, dealing with a fair variety of plot ideas.

The only recent animated work by Marvel that stands out in my mind as an equal to DC efforts is the Hulk vs Thor and Hulk vs Wolverine animated features. I really enjoyed both on the animation and story sides. They really got to the center of the characters' origin and gave them a nice current twist. They're recognizable but fresh. Now with Disney's ownership, backing, and resources not only financially but in terms of animation studios...will we see a Marvel animated renaissance?

I hope so. But I also have to admitt Lionsgate has done a great job with the animation projects. I really liked Doctor Starange and Iron Man. I have not seen the Hulk vs Movie yet but I hope to soon.

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Hannah Montana vs. Wolverine, the most epic crossover.

It'll be fine. Seeing as how Marvel wasn't in any real financial trouble, they could turn down the offer if they wanted to. Yeah, $4 billion is a helluva lot, but you have to give Marvel more credit than this; if the contract said "And also we get to change everything we want" Marvel would have walked away.

On the other hand, Deadpool vs. Hannah Montana is now fully possible...

Hotrod wrote:I hope so. But I also have to admitt Lionsgate has done a great job with the animation projects. I really liked Doctor Starange and Iron Man. I have not seen the Hulk vs Movie yet but I hope to soon.

Oh, I forgot about those two. I thought that Doctor Strange had some nifty ideas like the magic combat. I liked Iron Man for giving all those different armours cameos. If you liked those two animated features, I think you'll enjoy the Hulk vs movies. I believe that the voice actor for Strange is also the voice actor for Bruce Banner in the vs movies.

freaky777 wrote:Hannah Montana vs. Wolverine, the most epic crossover.

You know, I bet hardcore Marvel fans would be fuming over that kind of joke but as I see it, Wolverine has been Marvel's "lady of the night"(to put it politely), I could see something like that happening. Actually...Wolverine and Mickey Mouse have a few things in common. Both are dark haired characters in a world that often pays more attention to the fair coifed celebrities. They both have similar head silhouettes, what with Mickey's ears and Wolverine's Flock of Seagulls on steroids hairstyle. AND they both seem to be the number one character of their companies to throw out into the world and see what they stick to.

"I'm the best at what I do. And what I do isn't very nice...now give me your hard earned money. You know you want to. Bub. Ha-ha!"

Check out John Struan's blog, Super Punch, to see Mickey-rine!

Shadowman wrote:It'll be fine. Seeing as how Marvel wasn't in any real financial trouble, they could turn down the offer if they wanted to. Yeah, $4 billion is a helluva lot, but you have to give Marvel more credit than this; if the contract said "And also we get to change everything we want" Marvel would have walked away.

On the other hand, Deadpool vs. Hannah Montana is now fully possible...

The more I think about it I am thinking this is pure win for Marvel.

Shadowman wrote:It'll be fine. Seeing as how Marvel wasn't in any real financial trouble, they could turn down the offer if they wanted to. Yeah, $4 billion is a helluva lot, but you have to give Marvel more credit than this; if the contract said "And also we get to change everything we want" Marvel would have walked away.

On the other hand, Deadpool vs. Hannah Montana is now fully possible...

I think it'll be fine too. I heard mentioned in one of the reports I've heard about this that DC's been owned by Warner Brothers since the 60s, and what few Blackest Night books I've been able to read so far have been awesome.

Best case scenario: Marvel will be able to maintain Earth-616 (the Marvel Universe as we know it) with the worst happening that Marvel will have to create a Disney imprint (obviously geared towards younger readers and Disney fans).

Like Shadowman said: if the contract said Disney could change whatever they wanted, Marvel woulda walked away.

Don't really see Deadpool/Hannah Montana coming, though. (Don't think I saw Archie Meets the Punisher coming either, however, and I've still got that one-shot around here somewhere...)