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KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:The only concern I have, however, are tied to both IDW and Shout! Factory. Both have licenses to brands that are owned by Hasbro. We all know that. So with IDW, I am wondering how this will affect them. Will they have to hand over their ReGeneration One stuff to Marvel if this is official? And will they be permitted to publish anything they worked on? And Shout!Factory - Will everything they collaborated on have to be submitted to Disney? Does this also mean that Disney will be able to obtain the animated movie? And if so, will they give us the original or edited feature?

I'm assuming that whatever deals and contracts Hasbro has in play such as with IDW, Shout! Factory, Paramount, Activision, the Hub, etc ... would all remain. When those contracts end, I'm sure they'd do whatever put (or keep) the most money in their pockets.

Hasbro actually owns a majority of The Hub, which means that Disney could decide to buy out the rest as it is a profitable channel. Plus, they could use it to show old Disney Channel shows, as well as expand their educational programs.

And I feel a bit safe for IDW, because BOOM! only lost their rights on account that those were solely Disney and Disney-Pixar properties. Plus, Disney has currently said both Marvel and LucasArts will be handled as independents. So with Shout!Factory, I also have to assume they will see the benefits, or until Disney chooses to intervene.

Plus, with Activision... I think they are safe. Disney does like licensing series, and Activision may benefit from this. Especially since it could mean them having High Moon doing a TRON game that is both fun AND playable.

No comment on Paramount, on grounds that my cat and Michael Bay share the same birthday. (Which is weird, as I was born in the same city as Jeffry Combs... And my mom was born in the same city as Steve Blum.)

And with the money... I think they will look into expanding their educational programs, maybe even offer a program to qualifying Hasbro employees. Plus, they could branch out more on art and music through Hasbro, maybe even starting a program for the two. Maybe even start classes tied to voice acting classes that have them start doing roles in future Hasbro series.

But honestly, I have to ask my cousin if she knows how they handled their money tied to their education programs, as she used to work for Disney.

This actually seems to go hand-in-hand, as this combines all of the previous Transformers tie-ins, namely Star Wars and Disney itself.

I can't be for or against it until I see the results if such a merger pushes through.

But...

If it does...

Does that mean we'll be able to get more paint-apps in our figures? *crosses fingers*

Sabrblade wrote:...There is something seriously wrong with you, kid.

P.S. - Nick doesn't own Power Rangers, they just air it. Saban owns it and they wanted to make Samurai the way it turned out to be. But considering that they hadn't worked on that show in about a decade, it's no wonder their first go at it in 10 years was subpar.

Please don't feed trollish behavior. (Until I'm convinced otherwise, I'm inclined to believe he's trolling.)

As for Power Rangers, Saban did make Samurai (and Super) the way he wanted it. But, as for subpar? I don't think so. It was usual Saban quality, but slightly better. The special effects, the cleaner looking Sentai footage (his was always so ugly and grainy, I really don't understand it) only enhance his usual cheesiness.

His handling of the show has certainly helped toy sales. When Disney shoved the shows on XD and ABC Saturday mornings (which stations could opt out of), kids didn't really get to see the show(s). Now that it's on Nick and that's on every basic cable and satellite system, everyone can see it. RPM and MMPRv2 didn't have the best toy sales and some toys never made it to the US, or production for that matter. Now, with him in control again, almost everything seen on screen has made it to some form of toy. With more expected. And they're selling rather well. The figures and the Zord system, especially. Role Play, not so much.

CommanderHazar wrote:Still, I do acknowledge that the only R1 Transformers example we've had to go on was RiD, and that could be turned around by this acquisition. Unless Saban reacquired the rights when he reacquired Power Rangers.

Saban reacquired the rights to all seasons of Power Rangers when he bought it back. Their video release are now handled by Lionsgate.

Autobot032 wrote:As for Power Rangers, Saban did make Samurai (and Super) the way he wanted it. But, as for subpar? I don't think so.

I meant story-wise, not production-wise.

Disney do like to make toys for their characters and movies, so why not buy a big toy manufacturer (which has kind of branched out to be more general entertainment based in recent times). Our world has crossed with Disney before with those Mickey and Donald transforming figures, and wasn't Mr. Potato Head in Toy Story a Hasbro product?

If a result of a takeover means we get a Transformers movie more on par with The Avengers then I'm all for it. While I won't deny Hasbro have done some things right with Transformers in recent years (the PRIME animated series, First Edition figures (sort of), letting IDW just get on with the task of writing great comics and High Moon do Fall of Cybertron, and making a shit tonne of money from the movies and repaying us with hundreds of poor quality Bumblebees), there have been quite a few times where I've felt like I'd quite like someone new cracking the whip.

Bottom line: I'm open to this, but it does seem like Disney are getting a bit carried away.

Autobot032 wrote:Saban reacquired the rights to all seasons of Power Rangers when he bought it back. Their video release are now handled by Lionsgate.

I know that. I just don't know how much beyond PR he got back. Did he get back the rights to everything he did for Fox Kids, including TF:RiD, as well? Just PR? Somewhere in between?

If Disney still has some of the Fox Kids/Saban library, TF:RiD might be among them.

How would this work out for the Transformers rides in Universal though? If TFs become by extension a Disney property, they'd have to shut those rides down and move them to Disney parks? On the other hand, Universal Islands of Adventure also has Harry Potter (Warner Brothers) and Marvel rides.

Seibertron wrote:

CommanderHazar wrote:As far as Shout! Factory goes, this has the potential to be the biggest change as far as I can see. Disney is not known for contracting out to other companies the DVDs of its properties. It is also not known for releasing its TV shows on DVD, preferring to focus on its movie properties instead. There have been exceptions, of course, but on the whole it's rare for Disney owned series to be released. That could be problematic for future TF DVD releases. On the other hand, it could work in just he opposite way, and give TF:RiD its first DVD release in Region 1.

As for the toys, this may very well be the end of my collecting if it happens. If they leave Hasbro alone to do their thing, I don't see myself changing my habits of not buying the general release figures, and focusing only on more collector oriented lines. As far as TFs go, that means third-party and Masterpiece. If Disney starts shutting down the third-parties, that just leaves Masterpieces.

Only time will tell, and I'll make my decisions based on events as they happen, and not on the rumors.

I think it's best to compare this to what Disney did with Marvel. We still get Marvel DVDs, right? Any reason to think this wouldn't be any different with Hasbro?

Yes but Marvel was a mess it licensed out a lot of the distribution rights to its properties especially film to other studios and companies. I doubt Disney has any rights to anything prior to the last few years.

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Seibertron wrote:

CommanderHazar wrote:As far as Shout! Factory goes, this has the potential to be the biggest change as far as I can see. Disney is not known for contracting out to other companies the DVDs of its properties. It is also not known for releasing its TV shows on DVD, preferring to focus on its movie properties instead. There have been exceptions, of course, but on the whole it's rare for Disney owned series to be released. That could be problematic for future TF DVD releases. On the other hand, it could work in just he opposite way, and give TF:RiD its first DVD release in Region 1.

As for the toys, this may very well be the end of my collecting if it happens. If they leave Hasbro alone to do their thing, I don't see myself changing my habits of not buying the general release figures, and focusing only on more collector oriented lines. As far as TFs go, that means third-party and Masterpiece. If Disney starts shutting down the third-parties, that just leaves Masterpieces.

Only time will tell, and I'll make my decisions based on events as they happen, and not on the rumors.

I think it's best to compare this to what Disney did with Marvel. We still get Marvel DVDs, right? Any reason to think this wouldn't be any different with Hasbro?

Yes but Marvel was a mess it licensed out a lot of the distribution rights to its properties especially film to other studios and companies. I doubt Disney has any rights to anything prior to the last few years.

Existing deals / contracts would remain. Plain and simple. I just don't think we have anything to worry about with DVD releases and such. It's just part of the marketing strategy. It's different than it is with Disney created properties.

Money cant buy respect. This would be a tremendous boost for the 3rd party movement. I just hope we wont start seeing Disney ads and products get front paged on this site.