Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
That's interesting, since I've been reading the Marvel Comics for the first time recently and found them to be better than the cartoon for the main reason that they told a story. Each issues, more or less, matters to some degree in regards to the overall story of the series. Whereas the cartoon, aside from the first few episodes, some multi-parters, some new character debut episodes, and the movie, was largely just filler stories with little-to-no nutritional value or development to the overall story. It felt to me that the Marvel Comics told an actual story, while the cartoon merely told a ton of sidestories.Dead Metal wrote:Comics wise (G1), I never liked them I've tried getting into them a couple of times but never managed to really enjoy myself while reading them or even care enough to read following issues.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ArmadaPrime wrote:I'll come right out and say it: I sort of am one.
In that, I lke/enjoy G1 for what it is, but tbh coming in to TFs with armada (BTW DON'T start ranting about armada please guys, I've been there, done that, got the tshirt. I know that it is somewhat hated. I don't care. It's still my faviorute series.) if I look back at G1 I can see that a lot of it was rubbish
As far as the cartoon go, I'd say I find G1 and Armada to be about equal. Though, I hear Dreamwave's Armada comics were "amazing", so i'll be looking forward to reading them.Rodimus Prime wrote:ArmadaPrime wrote:I'll come right out and say it: I sort of am one.
In that, I lke/enjoy G1 for what it is, but tbh coming in to TFs with armada (BTW DON'T start ranting about armada please guys, I've been there, done that, got the tshirt. I know that it is somewhat hated. I don't care. It's still my faviorute series.) if I look back at G1 I can see that a lot of it was rubbish
I like G1 and I really liked Armada. The cartoon, the comics, and the toys all reminded me of G1 for some reason. Yeah, Armada had better art, better story, and better toy articulation, but the colors and some of the designs reminded me. Armada is one of my favorite series, right behind Beast Wars. Matter of fact, Hedgeclipperhead and ol' Grapeface are my 2 favorite Megatrons, toy- and character-wise. I guess it helps that they're voiced by the same guy.
And I still enjoy the PS2 Armada game more than WFC. Maybe FOC will change that, but I doubt it.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:does there exist such a thing as the opposite: One who dislikes G1 and puts every post-G1 franchise above it? Essentially, a G1 hater?
I don't just mean that they dislike the G1 cartoon, but G1 in general. The cartoon, the toys, the comics, the 1986 movie, anything that has to do with G1 instead of a post-G1 series.
Has anyone ever come across someone who genuinely disliked G1? Or at least liked everything else better than G1?
Though, not simply someone who just bashes G1 for the sake of bashing, but who has real reasons that sounded legitimate enough to make a compelling argument against G1.
Also, if you did meet a anti-G1 person/people, how would you interact with this person/these people?
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Yikes. What kind of things did they say about G1 (aside from the obvious, "It is teh suxx!")?sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I have met a few peoplr [online anyway] that claim to hate/dislike G1 as much as some hate the Bay-films.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:That's interesting, since I've been reading the Marvel Comics for the first time recently and found them to be better than the cartoon for the main reason that they told a story. Each issues, more or less, matters to some degree in regards to the overall story of the series. Whereas the cartoon, aside from the first few episodes, some multi-parters, some new character debut episodes, and the movie, was largely just filler stories with little-to-no nutritional value or development to the overall story. It felt to me that the Marvel Comics told an actual story, while the cartoon merely told a ton of sidestories.Dead Metal wrote:Comics wise (G1), I never liked them I've tried getting into them a couple of times but never managed to really enjoy myself while reading them or even care enough to read following issues.
Still, that isn't to say that the Marvel Comics were superior in every way. There were plenty of stinkers throughout its run. I'd say the best stuff came at the beginning and at the point when Simon Furman took over after Bob Budiansky. There were some few good issues here and there in the middle, but the best ones came near the start and towards the end. And in the UK. Oh MAN, the UK stuff rocks! The Marvel UK comics are SO much richer in story and character than most of the Marvel U.S. stuff.
Though, the Marvel G2 comics weren't of the same caliber as this. They felt kinda disappointing, being "dark for the sake of being dark" with less gravitas than Furman's G1 stuff.
Haven't read the Dreamwave or IDW G1 stuff yet, so I'm still working on that.
But there is one thing I will say the cartoon handled better than the Marvel Comics: Characterization. While Marvel did characterize some characters, the couldn't get all of them. The cartoon, however, gave personality to many of them, even if some of them were mere archetypes. Though, there were still some that the cartoon didn't develop as much, so I guess they both kinda fall short of this, with the cartoon being less so.
Still, it was the comics that made me really come to appreciate the likes of Ratchet, Shockwave, Soundwave, Ravage, Bumblebee/Goldbug, Blaster, Zarak/Scorponok, Thunderwing, Bludgeon, Carnivac, Ultra Magnus, Unicron, and others. whereas the cartoon didn't give them the great portrayals that the comics did.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Oh, yes! The voice acting and music score was very well done for its time. Above average, even, I'd say. That's why I like to apply most of the cartoon voices to the comic counterparts (save for a few exceptions like how some of the animal bots once growled in the show while speaking in the comics, or how Marvel Blaster is nothing like Cartoon Blaster).Dead Metal wrote:Yes I know that the G1 show sucks story wise, that's why I mostly like it for it's nostalgic factor, that and the sound of it. I really like they way it sounds, the voices, the sound effects and the music just make me feel like a child lying on the carpet in a dim lit very early 90s living room again.
LOL.Dead Metal wrote:The thing is, this dislike of G1 is very new for me, I guess it started about 2 years ago while catching myself laughing at G1 Galvatron, Cyclonus and Megatron while someone said they where superior to their Classics and Masterpiece iterations in every way.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yikes. What kind of things did they say about G1 (aside from the obvious, "It is teh suxx!")?sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I have met a few peoplr [online anyway] that claim to hate/dislike G1 as much as some hate the Bay-films.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Aren't they just as blocky as those of RiD and the Unicron Trilogy?sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:"horrible BLOCKY designs"
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Aren't they just as blocky as those of RiD and the Unicron Trilogy?sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:"horrible BLOCKY designs"
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Only the Predacons' and the Autobot Brothers' character models aren't as block as the G1 character models. Everyone else is pretty G1 model blocky.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Aren't they just as blocky as those of RiD and the Unicron Trilogy?sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:"horrible BLOCKY designs"
I guess, but the guys I was talking about were more in favor of the Bay designs.
And not all the RID's are that blocky.
Would one of those that you've seen be the Energon cartoon?Noideaforaname wrote:I don't hate G1, but I do regard all other franchises as 'superior'... well, the ones I've seen myself, at least.
"Munky, not Trukk"?Screamfleet wrote:I dont know anyone that hates, but I've met people that completely dismiss g1. I do know some hardcore BW fans, who dont like transformers that turn into cars/jets ect.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Only the Predacons' and the Autobot Brothers' character models aren't as block as the G1 character models. Everyone else is pretty G1 model blocky.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
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