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Lets see G1 launched a 30 year franchise, created one of the best hero type characters of all time (Optimus prime) and other Memorable Characters. Fun to epic stories. Animated was cancelled after 3 short series the toy line was cancelled before it finished. The stories were bland at best. It had the worst human characters (Sari in particular). Cheap looking cartoon network animation. Most of the villans were terrible human cliches. In G1 The Decepticons were a fearsome army in animated they were comic relief. Megatron was a head and Optimus was a pale Primal wannabee.

ausbot wrote:Lets see G1 launched a 30 year franchise,

Oh, gee. That makes it superior over everything.

other Memorable Characters.

And then everyone else were generic Autobots and Decepticons that got 2 minutes of screen time to sell their toys.

Fun to epic stories.

Most of the stories in G1 were terrible. The animated movie did better than all of the G1 episodes combined.

Animated was cancelled after 3 short series

3 short series? Three seasons. Also, the longevity of a show doesn't make it better than another. That's like saying Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends was worse than Spongebob because the latter is still on the air.

The stories were bland at best.

Example?

It had the worst human characters (Sari in particular).

G1 had dorky-ass human characters too. That's hardly an argument.

ausbot wrote:Cheap looking cartoon network animation.

Animated beat them by a longshot in that field. G1's animation was utter crap.

In G1 The Decepticons were a fearsome army in animated they were comic relief.

Because the Autobots won the war in Animated. In G1, the Decepticons won (before the Autobots won it back toward the end). Also, in G1, the Decepticons were a sad joke. The Autobots always won, and the Decepticons were left crying like little girls and retreating at the end of every episode.

Megatron was a head.

I have doubts you watched past season one, because Megatron got his body back at the end of the first season.

Yes thrill as the Autobot fight a little girl on a my little pony, wow to the constructicons who don't combine, cheer as the cop from NYPD blue scares the tick, shudder to lack of straight lines on robots, watch out autobots there's a guy with a bow and arrow. But don't worry Sari's magic key will fix everything!
You like the show thats your opinion but G1 will always be a classic.

ausbot wrote:shudder to lack of straight lines on robots,

Why the hell does that matter?

You like the show thats your opinion but G1 will always be a classic.

I'm not a big fan of Animated either. But I'm not going to sit here and say that the show had inferior writing, continuity, or character development to G1.

Sabrblade wrote:

Sinnertwin wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Using "B.O.T." as a model example of a typical G1 episode is a foolish act.

Exactly. The Girl Who Loved Powerglide is much better

In all seriousness, yes it is. As lame as that episode was, it was nowehre near the levels of as horrid disgrace as "B.O.T."

Carnage in c minor. Galvatron and Soundwave holding hands, was it? Now, that's a disgrace

ausbot wrote:Yes thrill as the Autobot fight a little girl on a my little pony,

ausbot wrote:watch out autobots there's a guy with a bow and arrow.

You do realize that those two were filler villains, right? You don't honestly believe that those two were meant to be taken seriously as credible threats, do you? If so, then I'm afraid you're sorely confused. Even the show's other characters acknowledged the lameness of those two. They're nowhere near the same league as the likes of Meltdown, the Headmaster, Nanosec, and certainly not the Decepticons, and they're not supposed to be. They're called "minor side threats" for a reason.

ausbot wrote:wow to the constructicons who don't combine,

What's to "wow" about? They're not meant to "wow" us, they're meant to "amuse" us with their familiar personalities and Blue Collar, Average Working Man style of humor. Honestly, by comparison, the G1 Constructicons were generic mooks with only Long Haul having any discernible character traits due to his constant whining.

ausbot wrote:cheer as the cop from NYPD blue scares the tick,

When did that happen? No seriously, you say it happened, so you must know something about it. When did that happen?

ausbot wrote:shudder to lack of straight lines on robots,

ausbot wrote:You like the show thats your opinion but G1 will always be a classic.

DUH! Of course it will! It came first and help set the foundation for all that came afterward. But "first" doesn't always equal "best", as PrymeStriker so eloquently demonstrated in his post.

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Sinnertwin wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Sinnertwin wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Using "B.O.T." as a model example of a typical G1 episode is a foolish act.

Exactly. The Girl Who Loved Powerglide is much better

In all seriousness, yes it is. As lame as that episode was, it was nowehre near the levels of as horrid disgrace as "B.O.T."

Carnage in c minor. Galvatron and Soundwave holding hands, was it? Now, that's a disgrace

Yep. But that episode's fault lie mostly in its animation errors and its premise. "B.O.T.", however, is bad all across the board in nearly every regard.

Sabrblade wrote:

Sinnertwin wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Sinnertwin wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Using "B.O.T." as a model example of a typical G1 episode is a foolish act.

Exactly. The Girl Who Loved Powerglide is much better

In all seriousness, yes it is. As lame as that episode was, it was nowehre near the levels of as horrid disgrace as "B.O.T."

Carnage in c minor. Galvatron and Soundwave holding hands, was it? Now, that's a disgrace

Yep. But that episode's fault lie mostly in its animation errors and its premise. "B.O.T.", however, is bad all across the board in nearly every regard.

*watched B.O.T again* Oh dear...

Oh dear, the can of Combatitronian grease-worms has been opened...

In all honesty, I love the original series. I grew up with it (thanks to the magic of video, RID was actually the current series when I first started my addiction, but I never watched a single episode despite my first Transformer being Side Burn) and it will always have a place in my heart.

However, I still accept that it was, at the very best, mediocre. Even for the time the animation was pants, especially for the great Toei Animation (let's face it, aside from the CGI helicopter scene, the Golgo 13 movie had better animation and that was from before Transformers).

I never watched Animated, as the style just wasn't to my liking (although I thought the style suited female characters and humans much better) but it actually had an interesting story. Transformers Prime (I have seen clips from) is possibly the best Transformers cartoon series so far. Cybertron wasn't bad by any stretch of the imagination, Beast Wars had awesome voice acting and great stories despite the horrible animation, Beast Machines was hugely underrated, and Armada was rather rubbish but had an OK story, and was much better in the original Japanese.

By far the worst Transformers cartoon series so far has to be Energon, which was simply dreadful in every conceivable way. ARGH.

Delta Magnus wrote:Beast Wars had awesome voice acting and great stories despite the horrible animation,

Only by today's standards. Back then, that animation was considered cutting edge.

Sabrblade wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Beast Wars had awesome voice acting and great stories despite the horrible animation,

Only by today's standards. Back then, that animation was considered cutting edge.

I thought and still think Beast Wars' animation incredible. Don't see a lot wrong with it.