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For those of you watching Prime do you feel that Smokesreen is what he claims to be?I personally feel he's hiding something because when the red energon popped up Starscream was the only Decepticon after it.

LordScourge wrote:For those of you watching Prime do you feel that Smokesreen is what he claims to be?I personally feel he's hiding something because when the red energon popped up Starscream was the only Decepticon after it.

Personally, I doubt it. While they certainly used the angle in his debut episode (even mentioning it), they already went the "mole" route back in Season 1 (very early even). I think Smokescreen is what he says he is: a trained, though inexperienced, new recruit to team Prime.

Besides, Smokescreen has always been an Autobot name, and Hasbro's not likely to change that. However, had he been named Mirage...

As for Starscream being the only Decepticon after the red energon - well, even Soundwave is allowed to have an off day.

Archanubis wrote:

LordScourge wrote:For those of you watching Prime do you feel that Smokesreen is what he claims to be?I personally feel he's hiding something because when the red energon popped up Starscream was the only Decepticon after it.

Personally, I doubt it. While they certainly used the angle in his debut episode (even mentioning it), they already went the "mole" route back in Season 1 (very early even). I think Smokescreen is what he says he is: a trained, though inexperienced, new recruit to team Prime.

Besides, Smokescreen has always been an Autobot name, and Hasbro's not likely to change that. However, had he been named Mirage...

As for Starscream being the only Decepticon after the red energon - well, even Soundwave is allowed to have an off day.

Well there is actually an incarnation of Smokescreen that was a decpticon and guess who his partner was? Any guesses? It was Dreadwing.

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Smokescreen_(G2)

If he is, then I will be sorely disappointed since he's the best Autobot character we've had so far with the most potential.

We do know that he becomes a hostage later on, but if his capture is part of a more elaborate Decepticon scheme that he's personally involved in, then this show will just throw away another good concept with the rest of them.

Though,

LordScourge wrote:I personally feel he's hiding something because when the red energon popped up Starscream was the only Decepticon after it.

Starscream is a lone wolf now. Of course he'd come alone since he's the only one on his side. He detected the Red Energon first, so it'd make sense for him to go by himself. The other Cons were probably busy, just like in other episodes where they don't bother to do anything.

LordScourge wrote:Well there is actually an incarnation of Smokescreen that was a decpticon and guess who his partner was? Any guesses? It was Dreadwing.

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Smokescreen_(G2)

Ew, TF Wikia.

Anyway, this would hold more weight to it if A) Smokescreen were a jet or shared designs with G2 Smokescreen, and B) Dreadwing had any personality traits of G2 Dreadwing.

It wouldn't surprise me and would be a welcome change. Smokescreen's intro is very forced and fanfiction-y. I was disappointed. I do like the way he thinks (Apex Armor + Bulkhead = what I was thinking the moment it came off Starscream) at times, but the intro has thrown me off to his character.

There's still some small evidence to support it: It's very telling Wheeljack wasn't called in for back up as well. There is the whole G2 Dreadwing/Smokescreen connection, if in name only. And the story of Smokescreen getting trounced and living through the Decepticon raid is fairly weak. And he did come from a Decepticon escape pod.

It also could be he's a tried and true Autobot working for the Decepticons - perhaps they told Smokescreen they would harm Alpha Trion if he didn't spy. Although if Megatron had A3 he wouldn't have needed Orion Pax - unless Shockwave's still alive and got him.

Eh. We'll see.

Well, after seeing the clip from Friday's new episode, Megatron clearly has no idea who Smokescreen is.

"WHO IN THE PITS OF KAON IS THAT?!!!"

Not a fan of this new character, too much like Hot Rod. But better than Bumblebee at least. Some one had to fill in the gap between Arcee and the rest. She's def not into Fat bots, old doc bots, or even bots triple her size (prime). Smokescreen will have a connection with Arcee methinks.
and then in the end BAM
he's a Decepticon.
don't think smoky is a Con. He's too friendly.

Sabrblade wrote:Well, after seeing the clip from Friday's new episode, Megatron clearly has no idea who Smokescreen is.

"WHO IN THE PITS OF KAON IS THAT?!!!"

Finally saw the clip. I was afraid Megatron was saying the above quote with some reverence, since you decided to put it in all caps. So glad he was just pointing out that only a complete and utter idiot would charge across a potential battlefield.

Smokescreen being a 'con is still in the realm of possibility, though. The Decepticons seems just as splintered as the Autobots, so having an actual usurper out there somewhere is in the realm of possibility.

Though that last clip makes me think he is just another gung-ho kid friendly character. Which is unnecessary given some of the cast.

I'd be furious if he was an actual Decepticon but agree that it's low on the possibilities list. He was shown 'snooping' through the Autobots relics chamber but seemed innocent enough about it, tho he IS the diversionary Tactician so who knows what kind of mind games he might be playing with us.

Being a true-blue Autobot who has been forced to do something for the Decepticons: It could be possible that they want him to lead them to Alpha Trion since he got to Optimus and nothing happened.He hasn't said something about trying to get to A3, or anyone/thing else, so that, as a story driver, has not been enforced yet. Since he hasn't done it it two episodes I'd treat it as not part of his character development, and therefore not part of the Prime Universe at all.

The Smokescreen that I know, were he the hostage of some type of forced undercover job, would tell the Autobots all about it and the lot would come up with some kind of fancy trick to mislead the Decepticons into an embarrassing wild goose chase. Optimus trusts him. We'll see. Maybe he IS Alpha Trion hiding in a Body that the real Smokescreen sacrificed to hide A3 in.

G1 Smoketreader wrote:I'd be furious if he was an actual Decepticon but agree that it's low on the possibilities list. He was shown 'snooping' through the Autobots relics chamber but seemed innocent enough about it, tho he IS the diversionary Tactician so who knows what kind of mind games he might be playing with us.

He's got so much potential of being the Autobot Lieutenant

He hasn't said something about trying to get to A3, or anyone/thing else, so that, as a story driver, has not been enforced yet. Since he hasn't done it it two episodes I'd treat it as not part of his character development, and therefore not part of the Prime Universe at all.

Smokescreen was the last line of defense. He had the choice of getting to Alpha Trion or stopping the invasion.

How does the fact that it's not part of his character development mean that it's not part of the Prime Universe? Elaborate.

Maybe he IS Alpha Trion hiding in a Body that the real Smokescreen sacrificed to hide A3 in.

I doubt it.