OptiMagnus10 wrote:Ironhide I believe was absent at the Kennedy Space Center filming. I don't know about anywhere else, but that could possibly reinforce the theory here.
SlyTF1 wrote:OptiMagnus10 wrote:Ironhide I believe was absent at the Kennedy Space Center filming. I don't know about anywhere else, but that could possibly reinforce the theory here.
They said he was with Lennox somewhere, I think "snowy". And I'm all for debating that the movie do have character development in them, but...when did Ironhide?
Starscream GaGa wrote:Ironhide had character development? What? All the robots in the films (and most Transformer franchises, pretty much only excluding Animated and a little Rodimus in G1) have gotten no development at all.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
5150 Cruiser wrote:Starscream GaGa wrote:Ironhide had character development? What? All the robots in the films (and most Transformer franchises, pretty much only excluding Animated and a little Rodimus in G1) have gotten no development at all.
Ignorance is bliss...
I'd go into detail about thier detail, but if you haven't goten it at this point then you either won't get it, or are refusing to see it.
Starscream GaGa wrote:5150 Cruiser wrote:Starscream GaGa wrote:Ironhide had character development? What? All the robots in the films (and most Transformer franchises, pretty much only excluding Animated and a little Rodimus in G1) have gotten no development at all.
Ignorance is bliss...
I'd go into detail about thier detail, but if you haven't goten it at this point then you either won't get it, or are refusing to see it.
Translation:
"I have no proper argument, so I'm gonna act like I'm smart and elite when really I am the opposite".
shadowynne wrote:as for a T3 death oh please, please let it be bumblebee! oh gods PLEEEEEEEEEASE let it be bumblebee. hopefully he dies falling down stairs or slipping in the bath tub... i just cant take BB saviour of the universe ultimate superhero action any more...
Starscream GaGa wrote:5150 Cruiser wrote:Starscream GaGa wrote:Ironhide had character development? What? All the robots in the films (and most Transformer franchises, pretty much only excluding Animated and a little Rodimus in G1) have gotten no development at all.
Ignorance is bliss...
I'd go into detail about their detail, but if you haven't gotten it at this point then you either won't get it, or are refusing to see it.
Translation:
"I have no proper argument, so I'm gonna act like I'm smart and elite when really I am the opposite".
Starscream GaGa wrote:
Thanks for your input. it was a little harsh for me to say bar Animated and a little Rodimus G1, as I wasn't even thinking about Beast era and comics, but there IS NO DEVELOPMENT FOR ROBOTS in the movies.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
5150 Cruiser wrote:Starscream GaGa wrote:5150 Cruiser wrote:Starscream GaGa wrote:Ironhide had character development? What? All the robots in the films (and most Transformer franchises, pretty much only excluding Animated and a little Rodimus in G1) have gotten no development at all.
Ignorance is bliss...
I'd go into detail about their detail, but if you haven't gotten it at this point then you either won't get it, or are refusing to see it.
Translation:
"I have no proper argument, so I'm gonna act like I'm smart and elite when really I am the opposite".
Negative ghost rider. The fact is this argument has gone on time and time again since the first movie. Rarely does it ever result in changing the opposites opinion, and given your first post, as well as your response, i doubt anything i say would change that. But to humor myself, I'll play.Starscream GaGa wrote:
Thanks for your input. it was a little harsh for me to say bar Animated and a little Rodimus G1, as I wasn't even thinking about Beast era and comics, but there IS NO DEVELOPMENT FOR ROBOTS in the movies.
Admittedly, compared to most other TF universe, character development in the movies is weak. Though more present in some than others, it is their.
I'm not going to go into full detail for each bot that did have development. I don't have the time for that. But people starting post complaining about Optimus being to "blood thirsty", or claiming the twins were a racial stereo type, or BB radio voice being overly played.. These are signs of development. Whether people liked them or not is irrelevant. You don't get this much hype over a Characters that don't have development. So while you may not see it, or don't have the connection with the characters would like, it was there.
5150 Cruiser wrote:Starscream GaGa wrote:Ironhide had character development? What? All the robots in the films (and most Transformer franchises, pretty much only excluding Animated and a little Rodimus in G1) have gotten no development at all.
Ignorance is bliss...
I'd go into detail about thier detail, but if you haven't goten it at this point then you either won't get it, or are refusing to see it.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
5150 Cruiser wrote:shamone and shadowynne ,
I'm going to have to disagree with both of you. Problem is, if you need a complete back story on each Tf for them to have development, then nearly no TF in any universe from G1 to the movies have had what you define as development. In the case of Ironhide, your correct. He is the "Shoot first, ask questions later" kind of warrior. You don't need to be told that. His actions define it.
I will agree that more dialog would have been better. That point I'm not arguing. But for all intents and purposes, Ironhide has been a warrior, and this is what he was portrayed as. We don't need a huge back story as to why he became one to get that point across is all I'm saying.
Oh and shamone,
I should note that my comment that you quoted above was not entirely directed at Ironhide's character. As i said, i believe there are more than a few characters in the movies that had development. Some more than others, and admittedly, some not at all.
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