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Yeah, DreamWave had really good products when it came to comic lines, but when they went under it seems the quality went with them. Until Regeneration One, iDW produced mostly TP. Simple, non-involving stories and sub-standard art plagued the many TF comics they produce. After ReGen started, I tried to get into MTMTE and even RiD, but the art just turned me off completely. Too bad, I was interested in the stories. But I can't enjoy something I can barely look at. And yeah, it's Pat Lee's fault. he was in charge of DW and was very greedy, ripping off everyone else involved.
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That's too bad. I actually like their take on the entire comic line. Pat Lee. I actually met the guy a few times. Cool guy. But you know, his art style is spot on transformers. Hopefully, idw can hire him as an artist with the books. Just with the arts. I'd like to see these companies try and forgot about the past and bring together great transformers talents. Come on, he guy brought back transformers for the new generations. He has talent
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I actually liked that they tried to play the human angle...I just didn't like how they played it. It was a bit tedious having a Transformers comic where most of the Transformers were mindless slaves to the human villain who was prowling the Earth to reclaim their bodies. It defeated the purpose of having sentient alien robots.
However, it did make an effectively satirical allegory regarding the adult collectors that were the comic's target audience...
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I wonder if they will ever give us some more trade ie micro masters etc.
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Never been into the comics, but one thing I can say about the Dreamwave comics is that the art style was...off. Skewy perspectives, legs deforming extensively (come on! This isn't the G1 cartoon! Do what Gundam did and make the hip panels articulated so their pelvises aren't one solid block for Primus's sake!) mega foreshortening mistakes, way too...rounded, just...ugly. It looks like they tried and failed to make it into a manga.
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Blurrz wrote:I cant get into Combiner Wars.. the combined mode doesn't look like its flush, as if they're just upscaling PCCs.
I know what you mean. It looks like they took 5 robots and combined them into one big robot. It doesn't make any sense!
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I would disagree on that: War Within was, in my opinion, excellent. Shame the last issues were never released.
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Dreamwave had a few interesting ideas, mostly in the War Within comics, but otherwise was fairly overrated, IMO. In retrospect the artwork was nowhere near as good as everyone thought it was at the time. I think the modern coloring on it made it look better then it was, especially compared to the older style of the previous Marvel books. The writing outside of War Within eventually devolved into a convoluted mess of plot holes, continuity errors and attempts to cash in on nostalgia. The fact that Pat Lee essentially stole money from people and even took credit for other artists' work is just icing on the cake, and basically ensures he'll never work on a TF book again.
To the opening post, it isn't really taboo to talk about, but it is a bit played out now. The fact that so many writers and artists were cheated and are still bitter about it does help lend a negative connotation to it.
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