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i need more angles of that train mode. looks kinda messy.

shajaki wrote:i need more angles of that train mode. looks kinda messy.

I was thinking kind of the same thing. The shuttle reminds me of Energon Jetfire... looks a little wide bodied to me. And given how big he is...

This feels like a Classics rendition, but in MP class as far as size. But it isn't screen accurate enough for MP aesthetics...

I don't really know where this fits in my collection. I kinda like it, but....

Benscollectables .

Shrink it to voyager/ultra scale and ill buy it. Dont miss out on a chance to double up your profit like Fans Toys did with Quakewave.

the front of that train looks like a bullet surrounded by space ship parts. this in no way compares to TW's. the aesthetic and attention to detail do not match the MP line either.

baring some 50% off sale, im out.

I love the headscuplt... but robot mode is too slim. I really don't mind the alt modes, but it's more ambivalence than anything else.

I like what I see here, but I agree with X, the design seems to fit more with CHUG than MP.

If this was Voyager, I'd be on it in a heartbeat.

Rated X wrote:Shrink it to voyager/ultra scale and ill buy it. Dont miss out on a chance to double up your profit like Fans Toys did with Quakewave.

Why?

DX9 Chigurh is already in CHUG scale. As the new 2015 G1 Megatron Leader class toy scales well with Chigurh.

The CHUG toy line has more than one scale for the characters toys. As most of the core cast was made in almost every size class in the CHUG toy line.

With the recent reveal of newer pics. That show Chigurh in his final colors. I've decided that i'm going to be buying this toy. Also plan to buy TW Evilstar.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:Shrink it to voyager/ultra scale and ill buy it. Dont miss out on a chance to double up your profit like Fans Toys did with Quakewave.

Why?

DX9 Chigurh is already in CHUG scale. As the new 2015 G1 Megatron Leader class toy scales well with Chigurh.

The CHUG toy line has more than one scale for the characters toys. As most of the core cast was made in almost every size class in the CHUG toy line.

him scaling with one (out of scale) figure... doesnt mean he's C/G scaled.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:Shrink it to voyager/ultra scale and ill buy it. Dont miss out on a chance to double up your profit like Fans Toys did with Quakewave.

Why?

DX9 Chigurh is already in CHUG scale. As the new 2015 G1 Megatron Leader class toy scales well with Chigurh.

The CHUG toy line has more than one scale for the characters toys. As most of the core cast was made in almost every size class in the CHUG toy line.

While 2015 Megatron may be a CHUG figure, "Leader" class figures are meant to be stand alone figures. This extra large class is generally reserved for fan favorite characters and is not meant to scale with smaller CHUG figures by cartoon or comic standards. Other than Jetfire (robot mode only) I cant think of one leader class figure that scales with any deluxe or voyager CHUG figure. Almost all of them are always Prime, Megatron, Starscream, or Bumblebee.

shajaki wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:Shrink it to voyager/ultra scale and ill buy it. Dont miss out on a chance to double up your profit like Fans Toys did with Quakewave.

Why?

DX9 Chigurh is already in CHUG scale. As the new 2015 G1 Megatron Leader class toy scales well with Chigurh.

The CHUG toy line has more than one scale for the characters toys. As most of the core cast was made in almost every size class in the CHUG toy line.

him scaling with one (out of scale) figure... doesnt mean he's C/G scaled.

Hahaha

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:Shrink it to voyager/ultra scale and ill buy it. Dont miss out on a chance to double up your profit like Fans Toys did with Quakewave.

Why?

DX9 Chigurh is already in CHUG scale. As the new 2015 G1 Megatron Leader class toy scales well with Chigurh.

The CHUG toy line has more than one scale for the characters toys. As most of the core cast was made in almost every size class in the CHUG toy line.

While 2015 Megatron may be a CHUG figure, "Leader" class figures are meant to be stand alone figures. This extra large class is generally reserved for fan favorite characters and is not meant to scale with smaller CHUG figures by cartoon or comic standards. Other than Jetfire (robot mode only) I cant think of one leader class figure that scales with any deluxe or voyager CHUG figure. Almost all of them are always Prime, Megatron, Starscream, or Bumblebee.

shajaki wrote: him scaling with one (out of scale) figure... doesnt mean he's C/G scaled.

Sorry I'm not prepared to engage in a debate where fans pick and choose which HasTak toys matter and which don't.

Tsutsukakushi wrote: Sorry I'm not prepared to engage in a debate where fans pick and choose which HasTak toys matter and which don't.

seriously Tsu? with all the stupid drama on the board today... just enough. theres no reason for this.

think about it. classics/henkei/united megatron is properly scaled with every other C/G figure. and there arent many C/G figures that are wildly out of scale with each other.

do you think megatron should be the same height as JETFIRE?

this astrotrain... is an MP figure, and is marketed as such. not C/G. you want to toss him in your C/G display? go nuts. but you might confuse those not in the know by claiming he'll fit right in with a C/G collection.

Tsutsukakushi wrote: Sorry I'm not prepared to engage in a debate where fans pick and choose which HasTak toys matter and which don't.

Well it does matter depending on what you collect , or you might as well say Citizen Stacks fits in with classics because he's bigger than CW Megatron

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:Shrink it to voyager/ultra scale and ill buy it. Dont miss out on a chance to double up your profit like Fans Toys did with Quakewave.

Why?

DX9 Chigurh is already in CHUG scale. As the new 2015 G1 Megatron Leader class toy scales well with Chigurh.

The CHUG toy line has more than one scale for the characters toys. As most of the core cast was made in almost every size class in the CHUG toy line.

While 2015 Megatron may be a CHUG figure, "Leader" class figures are meant to be stand alone figures. This extra large class is generally reserved for fan favorite characters and is not meant to scale with smaller CHUG figures by cartoon or comic standards. Other than Jetfire (robot mode only) I cant think of one leader class figure that scales with any deluxe or voyager CHUG figure. Almost all of them are always Prime, Megatron, Starscream, or Bumblebee.

shajaki wrote: him scaling with one (out of scale) figure... doesnt mean he's C/G scaled.

Sorry I'm not prepared to engage in a debate where fans pick and choose which HasTak toys matter and which don't.

Im only going by the G1 cartoon in general here. While many characters heights in the G1 cartoon are inconsistent, Megatrons height is. He is not the same size as Jetfire. The "Leader class" scale is more of a fan favorites scale than a CHUG scale. It just happens to "work" for Jetfire in terms of cartoon scale with other CHUG figures. My guess is the whole reason leader scale was named "leader" in the first place was to reference Optimus, Megatron, and various high ranking faction commanders in different TF continuities. In other words, its a scale reserved for characters that are important enough to deserve a stand alone figure. The target audience for this scale is kids and hardcore fans of a particular character. Hasbro doesnt make leader scale figures for people who collect based on the cartoon scale.

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:Shrink it to voyager/ultra scale and ill buy it. Dont miss out on a chance to double up your profit like Fans Toys did with Quakewave.

Why?

DX9 Chigurh is already in CHUG scale. As the new 2015 G1 Megatron Leader class toy scales well with Chigurh.

The CHUG toy line has more than one scale for the characters toys. As most of the core cast was made in almost every size class in the CHUG toy line.

While 2015 Megatron may be a CHUG figure, "Leader" class figures are meant to be stand alone figures. This extra large class is generally reserved for fan favorite characters and is not meant to scale with smaller CHUG figures by cartoon or comic standards. Other than Jetfire (robot mode only) I cant think of one leader class figure that scales with any deluxe or voyager CHUG figure. Almost all of them are always Prime, Megatron, Starscream, or Bumblebee.

shajaki wrote: him scaling with one (out of scale) figure... doesnt mean he's C/G scaled.

Sorry I'm not prepared to engage in a debate where fans pick and choose which HasTak toys matter and which don't.

Im only going by the G1 cartoon in general here. While many characters heights in the G1 cartoon are inconsistent, Megatrons height is. He is not the same size as Jetfire. The "Leader class" scale is more of a fan favorites scale than a CHUG scale. It just happens to "work" for Jetfire in terms of cartoon scale with other CHUG figures. My guess is the whole reason leader scale was named "leader" in the first place was to reference Optimus, Megatron, and various high ranking faction commanders in different TF continuities. In other words, its a scale reserved for characters that are important enough to deserve a stand alone figure. The target audience for this scale is kids and hardcore fans of a particular character. Hasbro doesnt make leader scale figures for people who collect based on the cartoon scale.

Please, Just because I gave you a reply or Two Yesterday. Does not mean I want to waste hours or days engaging in heated debates with you.

Please stop trying to coerce me in debates that I have less passion about than you do.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:Shrink it to voyager/ultra scale and ill buy it. Dont miss out on a chance to double up your profit like Fans Toys did with Quakewave.

Why?

DX9 Chigurh is already in CHUG scale. As the new 2015 G1 Megatron Leader class toy scales well with Chigurh.

The CHUG toy line has more than one scale for the characters toys. As most of the core cast was made in almost every size class in the CHUG toy line.

While 2015 Megatron may be a CHUG figure, "Leader" class figures are meant to be stand alone figures. This extra large class is generally reserved for fan favorite characters and is not meant to scale with smaller CHUG figures by cartoon or comic standards. Other than Jetfire (robot mode only) I cant think of one leader class figure that scales with any deluxe or voyager CHUG figure. Almost all of them are always Prime, Megatron, Starscream, or Bumblebee.

shajaki wrote: him scaling with one (out of scale) figure... doesnt mean he's C/G scaled.

Sorry I'm not prepared to engage in a debate where fans pick and choose which HasTak toys matter and which don't.

Im only going by the G1 cartoon in general here. While many characters heights in the G1 cartoon are inconsistent, Megatrons height is. He is not the same size as Jetfire. The "Leader class" scale is more of a fan favorites scale than a CHUG scale. It just happens to "work" for Jetfire in terms of cartoon scale with other CHUG figures. My guess is the whole reason leader scale was named "leader" in the first place was to reference Optimus, Megatron, and various high ranking faction commanders in different TF continuities. In other words, its a scale reserved for characters that are important enough to deserve a stand alone figure. The target audience for this scale is kids and hardcore fans of a particular character. Hasbro doesnt make leader scale figures for people who collect based on the cartoon scale.

Please, Just because I gave you a reply or Two Yesterday. Does not mean I want to waste hours or days engaging in heated debates with you.

Please stop trying to coerce me in debates that I have less passion about than you do.

Just stating the obvious. Nobodys forcing you to debate it.

Going by the only "official" reliable source of character heights- the scale chart (where he's shown a tiny bit taller than Prime and Megatron), he's MP scale without a doubt. That said he could work for CHUG scale if you like the idea of him being a veritable colossus/"transport" character (although even then, for his transport capabilities to make any sense at all you'd have to put him with a Legends display).

Honestly though, arguing over scale in Transformers is completely and utterly futile.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:Shrink it to voyager/ultra scale and ill buy it. Dont miss out on a chance to double up your profit like Fans Toys did with Quakewave.

Why?

DX9 Chigurh is already in CHUG scale. As the new 2015 G1 Megatron Leader class toy scales well with Chigurh.

The CHUG toy line has more than one scale for the characters toys. As most of the core cast was made in almost every size class in the CHUG toy line.

While 2015 Megatron may be a CHUG figure, "Leader" class figures are meant to be stand alone figures. This extra large class is generally reserved for fan favorite characters and is not meant to scale with smaller CHUG figures by cartoon or comic standards. Other than Jetfire (robot mode only) I cant think of one leader class figure that scales with any deluxe or voyager CHUG figure. Almost all of them are always Prime, Megatron, Starscream, or Bumblebee.

shajaki wrote: him scaling with one (out of scale) figure... doesnt mean he's C/G scaled.

Sorry I'm not prepared to engage in a debate where fans pick and choose which HasTak toys matter and which don't.

Im only going by the G1 cartoon in general here. While many characters heights in the G1 cartoon are inconsistent, Megatrons height is. He is not the same size as Jetfire. The "Leader class" scale is more of a fan favorites scale than a CHUG scale. It just happens to "work" for Jetfire in terms of cartoon scale with other CHUG figures. My guess is the whole reason leader scale was named "leader" in the first place was to reference Optimus, Megatron, and various high ranking faction commanders in different TF continuities. In other words, its a scale reserved for characters that are important enough to deserve a stand alone figure. The target audience for this scale is kids and hardcore fans of a particular character. Hasbro doesnt make leader scale figures for people who collect based on the cartoon scale.

Please, Just because I gave you a reply or Two Yesterday. Does not mean I want to waste hours or days engaging in heated debates with you.

Please stop trying to coerce me in debates that I have less passion about than you do.

Time and time again I've had to step in between you two. When are you going to get it through your head that if you don't want to get into a debate with Rated X, THEN STOP BLOODY REPLYING TO HIM!

It's that **** simple.

Benscollectables review .

Just watched the video review. Ben did a great job as he higlighted everything I needed. Toy comparisons, Transformations, Articulation.

Got to say, I'm blown away by this toy. The Engineering is brillant on this toy. It's a highly articulated toy. Joints use a lot of ratchets. Diecast parts were used in the right spots. It's got one of the most beautiful color schemes that I've seen in a long time. Toy is loaded with tabs, so everything tabs in. Love the sculpts in all modes. Toy looks very sturdy and high quality. I love the big toys and this toy is huge.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Scale and colors are not the main reasons, I buy newer TF toys.

The main reason i'm not buying this Chigurh toy. Is I feel it has a extreme ugly and weird looking robot mode. Think the toy's greatest suffer is the misproportion parts all over the robot mode. Huge ugly sculpted feet and ugly looking thin thighs. long torso, too narrow thin waist plate sculpt put on a bulky toy.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Love the sculpts in all modes. Toy looks very sturdy and high quality. I love the big toys and this toy is huge.

Why the sudden change of heart?