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Oh dear, oh dear oh dear!

Guess whos been getting their Ebay Transformers sales inflated yet again?
You guess it, 'japanesefonz' with help from shill bidder 'S***U'!

More feedback has been left from buyers/victims of various items, so peering into the bid history again shows shill bidding a plenty!

Ebay must be really busy as the seller still continues to list items and have them bid up.

Heres one to watch from the same seller, lets see if our shill bidding friends turns up in the bid history, should anyone fancy some old 'M.A.S.K.' adverts pasted onto bits of hardboard!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MASK-kenner-promotion-boards-very-rare-transformers-centurions-/221177578310?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item337f360346

Feel free to check these ended items and see if you too can spot 'S***U' in amongst the bidders?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Transformers-Movie-ROTF-Mudflap-Skids-Ice-Cream-Truck-MOSC-Deluxe-Class-rare-/221173008748?nma=true&si=eVvGn809DcGqiaH2Xjy43K%252F8m7I%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Charawheels-Hotwheels-AIRWOLF-Diecast-knight-rider-a-team-street-hawk-rare-/221173022585?nma=true&si=eVvGn809DcGqiaH2Xjy43K%252F8m7I%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRANSFORMERS-ENCORE-03-SOUNDWAVE-LASERBEAK-MISB-ORIGINAL-rare-/221172997975

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Transformers-Animated-2008-Dinobot-Grimlock-MISB-/221173016070?nma=true&si=eVvGn809DcGqiaH2Xjy43K%252F8m7I%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I really hope none of you guys n gals have won anything from 'japanesefonz' aka '2grandads' where this awful practice of shill bidding has happened?

I think he is on to us on to him His proxy bidder does show up but not as active in the bidding unlike the previous ended bids. And he still has 1 won bid.......heck, even the bag he didn't win. First action figures and now bags?

fenrir72 wrote: First action figures and now bags?

Well, he does need something matching his heels to carry his spoils around in

Oh you naughty seller 'japanesefonz', you and your shill bidder 'S***U'!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRANSFORMERS-RTS-WRECK-GAR-REVEAL-THE-SHIELD-DELUXE-FIGURE-moc-/221173010930?nma=true&si=hN1P9iYYSL8KjKl60neT%252Bi4Z%252BAU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Transformers-Universe-Generation-classics-Autobot-Hound-Ravage-Rare-25th-aniv-/221173001785?nma=true&si=hN1P9iYYSL8KjKl60neT%252Bi4Z%252BAU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I am not the Internet Police but this seller has really got me all riled up!
This sort of stuff happens all the time on Ebay but when a U.K. seller flogging some cool Transformers blatently rips off other fans of Transformers, I feel the fan community should be informed!

We might as well call out his shillbidding account by name: handsshoulders

At least it's funny funny to see his shill account sometimes winning his own auctions: it means he has to pay eBay seller's fees, without making an actual buck.

alldarker wrote:We might as well call out his shillbidding account by name: handsshoulders

At least it's funny funny to see his shill account sometimes winning his own auctions: it means he has to pay eBay seller's fees, without making an actual buck.

Excellent work Alldarker!

Add 'handsshoulders' to your beware list folks!

I would expect those same items won to reappear either in 'japanesefonz' or 'handsshoulders' listied items sometime soon?

Noticed too that he only sells to local British buyers.........so to all our fellow collectors in the UK, heads up(?)

Btw, are scammers really that.........desperate(?) for the lack of a better word, they buy from themselves?

This guy looks like he's just starting in the shill bidding game: his shill bidding account was only started on January 4th 2013. He was probably counting on his shill bids being overbid again. But he was out of luck when no-one upped his shill bids.

This is why I only buy on eBay using Buy It Now. Generally, it's more expensive than I'd like to pay, but at least I'm not dealing with shills, plus if I did, it could end up being more than the BIN, anyway.

And I'll only buy from respectable Asian sellers, such as EHobbyBaseShop. I bought from them on eBay, instead of their site, and the transaction was excellent.

If bidding is involved, you're rarely ever going to get what you want for the price you want. Bidding lures you in, you get caught up in the heat and then do something stupid. BIN is your friend.

Well is appears Ebay has listened!

The couple of items dodgy conman 'japanesefonz' had listed have been pulled and his shill bidder account looks odd, perhaps banned?

Thanks to Seibertronian Alldarker, we got the name of the shill account because items won where feedback was left, revealing the account name 'handsshoulders'.
That account has since had its feedback rating removed along with the item won, so feedback is back to zero!

I shall keep both account names added to my (not) Favourite Sellers with email notifications set when anything is listed and let you good people know about any more dodgyness!