I swear, your comedy has gotten to the level of G1 Starscream since we put staff colours on you.
I...had to. I was compelled. It was there, begging me to do it.
I don't get all the hate for Orci and Kurtzman. I think Transformers Prime proves that they were not the problem.
Anyway, this is just another sign that we're in for more of the same crap with TF4. All I can say about that is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YxChiuA398
Oh no. Prime does prove they are the problem. I love Prime, I think it's an excellent series, but it has flaws. Many of which can be seen in the movies.
I've gone over it in detail before, but here's the Cliff Notes version:
TF1: Boring. Some of that was due to cost, but some of it was due to their writing. They can drag out a story like crazy.
TF2: Some of the zaniness came from Bay's input, I don't deny that, but seriously, you could tell which parts belonged to them and which ones didn't. (The boring segments were their's.)
The Legend Of Zorro: B O R I N G. And waaaay too long. When the movie was like 50% over, it felt like the end of the movie. He had rescued his son, story was over. Right? WRONG. Another hour, maybe even 1.5 to go. Egads.
Star Trek: Kirk, a klutz? Really? The guy couldn't keep himself from going over a cliff. He was either narrowly escaping death on one, or dangling from it. And he couldn't fight worth a damn. Really? REALLY?
Hawaii Five-0: Great show. Draggy episodes, story arcs going on for too long, people getting offed when there's no need, other episodes are hollow and rushed.
And then we get to Prime. Rushed episodes, hollow episodes, draggy episodes, characters getting offed for no good reason, arcs going on for far too long, abrupt endings, and a clip show already? Really? No excuse.
The only good work they've done was Mission: Impossible III. It was entertaining, it was fast paced and wasn't a bad story. I think the thrill and fame went to their heads.
Burn wrote: Bleak5170 wrote:
TheForgottenTaxi wrote:I don't get all the hate for Orci and Kurtzman. I think Transformers Prime proves that they were not the problem.
Agreed. They wrote the first movie which I absolutely loved. And we all know how awesome TF Prime is. I have zero problem with those two.
They're not writing TF Prime though. They're simply only producers. If we're going to give credit to producers then people should either be forming a lynch mob for, or think the sun shines out of Don Murphy's butt.
So yes, Orci and Kurtzman were very much the problem. They couldn't come up with an original idea between them. Take a look at their track record of writing and see that their big "successes" are based on franchises that have decades of mythology.
And they're still a problem, at least for Prime. People seem to think that producers don't have much input or power, but they actually do. They let them loose on TF1 and ROTF. It showed. People blame Bay for so much, but people overlook O & K. I just don't understand why.
I have to admit, Prime, on the whole, is leaps and bounds better than the film series. It really is, but it has imperfections and they need to be addressed.
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