Capt.Failure wrote: Sabrblade wrote: Capt.Failure wrote:
Eh, as I said before my comments had nothing to do with someone not liking the movie. It had everything to do with someone hating the movie then going back to see two sequels knowing they'd hate them, then complaining like they're surprised. It's a common sense issue. Was hoping that seemed apparent.
To draw an example I thought The Fantastic Four was pure crap and felt offended they stole my money. I sure as hell didn't go see Rise of the Silver Surfer.
Well, it's not impossible for one to go to a movie, dislike it, then go see the sequel expecting it to be just as unlikable, but instead find the sequel to be surprisingly more entertaining.
To use your Fantastic four example, when I saw that movie, it bored me. Then I saw Rise of the Silver Surfer and, up until the last part of the climax, I found it to be much more enjoyable than the first movie. The first movie was mostly experimentation and science talk, with one big action scene coming in too little too late. The second movie pulled me in more with more action, more suspense, and a big power battle with Doom that I that was much cooler. The only big downside of the film for me was what they did to Galactus and how easily beaten he was. But up until that point, the rest felt more fun to me than the first movie.Now as for Transformers, what's wrong with wanting these people to learn from their experiences with the first three films and try to make something a little more worthwhile with the fourth?
Not a thing. But I'm just going to laugh at someone who's surprised they didn't like the sequels. You obviously based your expectations on Rise of the Silver Surfer off the previous film. That's both rational and how a normal person would act. However you understood the risk you took seeing a sequel to a film you didn't like.
Then there's someone who's honestly surprised a sequel to a film they hated is a film they hate, and complain like it's a surprise. My common sense is tingling and it's telling me you* have none.
*Note: I mean "you" as in "nebulous group of people I'm speaking of, not you Sabrblade
Ah, but you should be fair, to some degree.
We're the Transformers fandom...
-If they make a movie, we want to see it.
-If it's good, we want to make it a success.
-If it's not good, we hold out hope that the sequel will be better.
-We're flawed. We're human. We're prone to doing these things over and over.
Granted, they shouldn't complain past a certain point. It does become pointless and seems like it's absolutely unending. Pretty much every angle has been covered. Every point, plot hole, inconsistency, etc.
At this point, whining about the films is just a waste of breath. The argument's been heard from both sides. Neither will budge.
Those who inflict pain upon themselves in this manner, repeatedly, should have no voice.
Those who poke the wound and say "I told you so", repeatedly, should have no voice.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture is one of those films where you have a rocky start and therefore shouldn't attempt to see the sequel. But fans, audiences and critics did. It turned out to be a fantastic film, and quite possibly the best out of the entire series. If they hadn't given it a chance, they'd never know the awesome.
Same thing here. People NEED to give it a chance, for themselves. Then you hear good things about the next sequel and curiosity kicks in, etc.
It's part of human nature.
NOTE: Realize that I am not a perfect Christian, nor do I profess to be. I apologize if anyone's ever offended by me, I'm not perfect. Don't hold my posts and opinions against other Christians.