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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Autobot032 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:09 am

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MINDVVIPE wrote:Your all forgetting the biggest plothole to all three movies. The plothole of why I actually spent money to watch these boring movies. :P
I couldn't be the only one who was actually stressed during the first movie due to the lack of Robot presence on-screen. Everytime they showed some of the bot action, I couldn't even enjoy it coz I knew in a few seconds, I'd have to endure long scenes of just human interaction. It's all been said before, but damn, I've never been so stressed while watching a movie. haha.


We need a meme of this on the Advice Animals subreddit.

"See movie I end up hating. Watch both sequels and complain about how I hated them."

You people make me laugh. So pathetic. :lol:


Easy. Let's bring that down a notch, please. Your use of pathetic was absolutely unnecessary, here.


The point stands though. Let's imagine someone shot them self in the foot. What is the rational response?

a) "OUCH! JEEZE! I better go to a doctor!"

b) "OUCH! JEEZE! That really hurt! Better shoot my other foot and my unoccupied hand too."

If you chose b) then you've voided your right to complain.


I don't deny that you have a valid point, to some degree, but the "pathetic" part was over the line. Simple as that.
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Burn » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:09 am

Burn is officially bored with the bashing of previous films.

I liked it better when we were just bashing Orci & Kurtzman.
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Autobot032 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:16 am

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Burn wrote:Burn is officially bored with the bashing of previous films.

I liked it better when we were just bashing Orci & Kurtzman.


We can go back to it, I'm game! :D
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby MINDVVIPE » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:30 am

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Autobot032 wrote:I don't deny that you have a valid point, to some degree, but the "pathetic" part was over the line. Simple as that.

Its not a valid point. Shooting yourself is gauranteed pain. Watching TF movies, as a TF Fan, is not anything like that analogy. We all know this is an idiotic analogy that was meant to defend against hurt feelings from having something that you like beat down.
Deal with it. Its a forum. (Not directed at you, Autobot032)
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Capt.Failure » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:03 am

MINDVVIPE wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:I don't deny that you have a valid point, to some degree, but the "pathetic" part was over the line. Simple as that.

Its not a valid point. Shooting yourself is gauranteed pain. Watching TF movies, as a TF Fan, is not anything like that analogy. We all know this is an idiotic analogy that was meant to defend against hurt feelings from having something that you like beat down.
Deal with it. Its a forum. (Not directed at you, Autobot032)


If your buyer's remorse is so bad that you have to deny cold, hard logic than I can't help you. Sorry. :roll:

What you thought of the films means nothing to me. I don't know you, I don't care to. Attempting to paint me as some emotionally hurt fanboy isn't helping your case.

Done with you now. Bored. Got paint to watch dry. >:oP
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

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MINDVVIPE wrote:
Capt.Failure wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Capt.Failure wrote:
MINDVVIPE wrote:Your all forgetting the biggest plothole to all three movies. The plothole of why I actually spent money to watch these boring movies. :P
I couldn't be the only one who was actually stressed during the first movie due to the lack of Robot presence on-screen. Everytime they showed some of the bot action, I couldn't even enjoy it coz I knew in a few seconds, I'd have to endure long scenes of just human interaction. It's all been said before, but damn, I've never been so stressed while watching a movie. haha.


We need a meme of this on the Advice Animals subreddit.

"See movie I end up hating. Watch both sequels and complain about how I hated them."

You people make me laugh. So pathetic. :lol:


Easy. Let's bring that down a notch, please. Your use of pathetic was absolutely unnecessary, here.


The point stands though. Let's imagine someone shot them self in the foot. What is the rational response?

a) "OUCH! JEEZE! I better go to a doctor!"

b) "OUCH! JEEZE! That really hurt! Better shoot my other foot and my unoccupied hand too."

If you chose b) then you've voided your right to complain.


You're such a smart guy. Maybe one day I'll be as smart as you, and be able to enjoy the movies.


We can only hope...
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

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Capt.Failure wrote:
MINDVVIPE wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:I don't deny that you have a valid point, to some degree, but the "pathetic" part was over the line. Simple as that.

Its not a valid point. Shooting yourself is gauranteed pain. Watching TF movies, as a TF Fan, is not anything like that analogy. We all know this is an idiotic analogy that was meant to defend against hurt feelings from having something that you like beat down.
Deal with it. Its a forum. (Not directed at you, Autobot032)


If your buyer's remorse is so bad that you have to deny cold, hard logic than I can't help you. Sorry. :roll:

What you thought of the films means nothing to me. I don't know you, I don't care to. Attempting to paint me as some emotionally hurt fanboy isn't helping your case.
Done with you now. Bored. Got paint to watch dry. >:oP


Right on. Painting one as the emotionally hurt fanboy is only a valid strategy when you're doing it to someone who didn't like the movies. Everyone knows that only people who didn't like them are some how irrational and stupid, and could never, ever have valid reasons for not liking them. Those fools and their "opinions," bah.
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Capt.Failure » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:51 pm

Dagon wrote:
Capt.Failure wrote:
MINDVVIPE wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:I don't deny that you have a valid point, to some degree, but the "pathetic" part was over the line. Simple as that.

Its not a valid point. Shooting yourself is gauranteed pain. Watching TF movies, as a TF Fan, is not anything like that analogy. We all know this is an idiotic analogy that was meant to defend against hurt feelings from having something that you like beat down.
Deal with it. Its a forum. (Not directed at you, Autobot032)


If your buyer's remorse is so bad that you have to deny cold, hard logic than I can't help you. Sorry. :roll:

What you thought of the films means nothing to me. I don't know you, I don't care to. Attempting to paint me as some emotionally hurt fanboy isn't helping your case.
Done with you now. Bored. Got paint to watch dry. >:oP


Right on. Painting one as the emotionally hurt fanboy is only a valid strategy when you're doing it to someone who didn't like the movies. Everyone knows that only people who didn't like them are some how irrational and stupid, and could never, ever have valid reasons for not liking them. Those fools and their "opinions," bah.


I was going to write a long thought out statement about how your entire argument is nothing more than a pile of fallacious logic, but instead I'm just gonna laugh and shoo you away. :lol:

Kids these days. :roll:
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby SlyTF1 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:01 pm

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Dagon wrote:
Capt.Failure wrote:
MINDVVIPE wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:I don't deny that you have a valid point, to some degree, but the "pathetic" part was over the line. Simple as that.

Its not a valid point. Shooting yourself is gauranteed pain. Watching TF movies, as a TF Fan, is not anything like that analogy. We all know this is an idiotic analogy that was meant to defend against hurt feelings from having something that you like beat down.
Deal with it. Its a forum. (Not directed at you, Autobot032)


If your buyer's remorse is so bad that you have to deny cold, hard logic than I can't help you. Sorry. :roll:

What you thought of the films means nothing to me. I don't know you, I don't care to. Attempting to paint me as some emotionally hurt fanboy isn't helping your case.
Done with you now. Bored. Got paint to watch dry. >:oP


Right on. Painting one as the emotionally hurt fanboy is only a valid strategy when you're doing it to someone who didn't like the movies. Everyone knows that only people who didn't like them are some how irrational and stupid, and could never, ever have valid reasons for not liking them. Those fools and their "opinions," bah.


Most of the critics where. They never explained their reasons for not liking the movies. They just called them "loud". Which means nothing. And the "facts" they gave for their reasons for not liking the movies where invalid because they obviously weren't paying attention to the movie at all. I can understand people not liking the movies, but critics who bash the movies and their fanbase because they failed to pay attention, and just because the movie has a certain director's name stamped to it, that pisses me off. Then their opinions rub off on the audiences. And they fail to pay attention, thinking that what the critics said was pure truth, when it wasn't.
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:50 pm

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I'm fine with Ehren Kruger returning. I liked DOTM, so I'm cool with it. As far as the haters go its like the old saying goes.. Haters gonna hate. One thing people need to realize..

Movies are not made for fans. There made for everyone else. This has been the going formula since.. well, comic books and 80's cartoons have been turned into movies. That's how it is, thats how it always will be. The sooner you accept this, the sooner you can go about your life.

As far as a re-boot goes i have yet to have anyone give a solid reason why we should have a re-boot this early in the game. Non, zip, nada. =;
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Capt.Failure » Tue May 01, 2012 6:50 am

5150 Cruiser wrote:I'm fine with Ehren Kruger returning. I liked DOTM, so I'm cool with it. As far as the haters go its like the old saying goes.. Haters gonna hate. One thing people need to realize..

Movies are not made for fans. There made for everyone else. This has been the going formula since.. well, comic books and 80's cartoons have been turned into movies. That's how it is, thats how it always will be. The sooner you accept this, the sooner you can go about your life.

As far as a re-boot goes i have yet to have anyone give a solid reason why we should have a re-boot this early in the game. Non, zip, nada. =;


They didn't like it, so their opinion supersedes that of anyone else. Thus we need a reboot. :roll:

See, I can toss around logical fallacies too. Shame this is the only argument 90% of them have.
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Dagon » Tue May 01, 2012 8:31 am

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Capt.Failure wrote:
Dagon wrote:
Capt.Failure wrote:
MINDVVIPE wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:I don't deny that you have a valid point, to some degree, but the "pathetic" part was over the line. Simple as that.

Its not a valid point. Shooting yourself is gauranteed pain. Watching TF movies, as a TF Fan, is not anything like that analogy. We all know this is an idiotic analogy that was meant to defend against hurt feelings from having something that you like beat down.
Deal with it. Its a forum. (Not directed at you, Autobot032)


If your buyer's remorse is so bad that you have to deny cold, hard logic than I can't help you. Sorry. :roll:

What you thought of the films means nothing to me. I don't know you, I don't care to. Attempting to paint me as some emotionally hurt fanboy isn't helping your case.
Done with you now. Bored. Got paint to watch dry. >:oP


Right on. Painting one as the emotionally hurt fanboy is only a valid strategy when you're doing it to someone who didn't like the movies. Everyone knows that only people who didn't like them are some how irrational and stupid, and could never, ever have valid reasons for not liking them. Those fools and their "opinions," bah.


I was going to write a long thought out statement about how your entire argument is nothing more than a pile of fallacious logic, but instead I'm just gonna laugh and shoo you away. :lol:

Kids these days. :roll:


Whew, well, that's a relief, since it's not fallacious logic afterall. In the instance that someone doesn't like the movies, they are decried as being fanboys who percieve injury has occured at the hands of a cruel movie series that "ruins" their beloved franchise. Movie fans throw around the butthurt fanboy or Geewun arguments and that's fine, but all that is is just more name calling, and it lowers movie fans to the same level as Geewunners and crybabies. That's subjective of course, in terms of how 'low' that level may be, but if Geewunners are name callers, then calling Geewunners Geewunners is name calling as well.
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Capt.Failure » Tue May 01, 2012 4:41 pm

Dagon wrote:
Capt.Failure wrote:
Dagon wrote:
Capt.Failure wrote:
MINDVVIPE wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:I don't deny that you have a valid point, to some degree, but the "pathetic" part was over the line. Simple as that.

Its not a valid point. Shooting yourself is gauranteed pain. Watching TF movies, as a TF Fan, is not anything like that analogy. We all know this is an idiotic analogy that was meant to defend against hurt feelings from having something that you like beat down.
Deal with it. Its a forum. (Not directed at you, Autobot032)


If your buyer's remorse is so bad that you have to deny cold, hard logic than I can't help you. Sorry. :roll:

What you thought of the films means nothing to me. I don't know you, I don't care to. Attempting to paint me as some emotionally hurt fanboy isn't helping your case.
Done with you now. Bored. Got paint to watch dry. >:oP


Right on. Painting one as the emotionally hurt fanboy is only a valid strategy when you're doing it to someone who didn't like the movies. Everyone knows that only people who didn't like them are some how irrational and stupid, and could never, ever have valid reasons for not liking them. Those fools and their "opinions," bah.


I was going to write a long thought out statement about how your entire argument is nothing more than a pile of fallacious logic, but instead I'm just gonna laugh and shoo you away. :lol:

Kids these days. :roll:


Whew, well, that's a relief, since it's not fallacious logic afterall. In the instance that someone doesn't like the movies, they are decried as being fanboys who percieve injury has occured at the hands of a cruel movie series that "ruins" their beloved franchise. Movie fans throw around the butthurt fanboy or Geewun arguments and that's fine, but all that is is just more name calling, and it lowers movie fans to the same level as Geewunners and crybabies. That's subjective of course, in terms of how 'low' that level may be, but if Geewunners are name callers, then calling Geewunners Geewunners is name calling as well.
Personally, I liked DOTM and the first movie and thought ROFT was bad, and that's my opinion and all, and I don't care if people agree or disagree. I just think it's funny when either side of the arguement derides the other side as being petty when their derision causes them to be petty as well. That's not a fallacy, that's an observation, and it can be backed with numerous examples from not only this argument/fandom, but from many, some of which even occur in real life.


Eh, as I said before my comments had nothing to do with someone not liking the movie. It had everything to do with someone hating the movie then going back to see two sequels knowing they'd hate them, then complaining like they're surprised. It's a common sense issue. Was hoping that seemed apparent. :-?

To draw an example I thought The Fantastic Four was pure crap and felt offended they stole my money. I sure as hell didn't go see Rise of the Silver Surfer.
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

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Capt.Failure wrote:Eh, as I said before my comments had nothing to do with someone not liking the movie. It had everything to do with someone hating the movie then going back to see two sequels knowing they'd hate them, then complaining like they're surprised. It's a common sense issue. Was hoping that seemed apparent. :-?

To draw an example I thought The Fantastic Four was pure crap and felt offended they stole my money. I sure as hell didn't go see Rise of the Silver Surfer.
Well, it's not impossible for one to go to a movie, dislike it, then go see the sequel expecting it to be just as unlikable, but instead find the sequel to be surprisingly more entertaining.

To use your Fantastic four example, when I saw that movie, it bored me. Then I saw Rise of the Silver Surfer and, up until the last part of the climax, I found it to be much more enjoyable than the first movie. The first movie was mostly experimentation and science talk, with one big action scene coming in too little too late. The second movie pulled me in more with more action, more suspense, and a big power battle with Doom that I that was much cooler. The only big downside of the film for me was what they did to Galactus and how easily beaten he was. But up until that point, the rest felt more fun to me than the first movie.

Now as for Transformers, what's wrong with wanting these people to learn from their experiences with the first three films and try to make something a little more worthwhile with the fourth?
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Capt.Failure » Wed May 02, 2012 12:53 am

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Capt.Failure wrote:Eh, as I said before my comments had nothing to do with someone not liking the movie. It had everything to do with someone hating the movie then going back to see two sequels knowing they'd hate them, then complaining like they're surprised. It's a common sense issue. Was hoping that seemed apparent. :-?

To draw an example I thought The Fantastic Four was pure crap and felt offended they stole my money. I sure as hell didn't go see Rise of the Silver Surfer.
Well, it's not impossible for one to go to a movie, dislike it, then go see the sequel expecting it to be just as unlikable, but instead find the sequel to be surprisingly more entertaining.

To use your Fantastic four example, when I saw that movie, it bored me. Then I saw Rise of the Silver Surfer and, up until the last part of the climax, I found it to be much more enjoyable than the first movie. The first movie was mostly experimentation and science talk, with one big action scene coming in too little too late. The second movie pulled me in more with more action, more suspense, and a big power battle with Doom that I that was much cooler. The only big downside of the film for me was what they did to Galactus and how easily beaten he was. But up until that point, the rest felt more fun to me than the first movie.

Now as for Transformers, what's wrong with wanting these people to learn from their experiences with the first three films and try to make something a little more worthwhile with the fourth?


Not a thing. But I'm just going to laugh at someone who's surprised they didn't like the sequels. You obviously based your expectations on Rise of the Silver Surfer off the previous film. That's both rational and how a normal person would act. However you understood the risk you took seeing a sequel to a film you didn't like.

Then there's someone who's honestly surprised a sequel to a film they hated is a film they hate, and complain like it's a surprise. My common sense is tingling and it's telling me you* have none.

*Note: I mean "you" as in "nebulous group of people I'm speaking of, not you Sabrblade
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Autobot032 » Wed May 02, 2012 2:14 am

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Capt.Failure wrote:Eh, as I said before my comments had nothing to do with someone not liking the movie. It had everything to do with someone hating the movie then going back to see two sequels knowing they'd hate them, then complaining like they're surprised. It's a common sense issue. Was hoping that seemed apparent. :-?

To draw an example I thought The Fantastic Four was pure crap and felt offended they stole my money. I sure as hell didn't go see Rise of the Silver Surfer.
Well, it's not impossible for one to go to a movie, dislike it, then go see the sequel expecting it to be just as unlikable, but instead find the sequel to be surprisingly more entertaining.

To use your Fantastic four example, when I saw that movie, it bored me. Then I saw Rise of the Silver Surfer and, up until the last part of the climax, I found it to be much more enjoyable than the first movie. The first movie was mostly experimentation and science talk, with one big action scene coming in too little too late. The second movie pulled me in more with more action, more suspense, and a big power battle with Doom that I that was much cooler. The only big downside of the film for me was what they did to Galactus and how easily beaten he was. But up until that point, the rest felt more fun to me than the first movie.

Now as for Transformers, what's wrong with wanting these people to learn from their experiences with the first three films and try to make something a little more worthwhile with the fourth?


Not a thing. But I'm just going to laugh at someone who's surprised they didn't like the sequels. You obviously based your expectations on Rise of the Silver Surfer off the previous film. That's both rational and how a normal person would act. However you understood the risk you took seeing a sequel to a film you didn't like.

Then there's someone who's honestly surprised a sequel to a film they hated is a film they hate, and complain like it's a surprise. My common sense is tingling and it's telling me you* have none.

*Note: I mean "you" as in "nebulous group of people I'm speaking of, not you Sabrblade


Ah, but you should be fair, to some degree.

We're the Transformers fandom...
-If they make a movie, we want to see it.
-If it's good, we want to make it a success.
-If it's not good, we hold out hope that the sequel will be better.
-We're flawed. We're human. We're prone to doing these things over and over.

Granted, they shouldn't complain past a certain point. It does become pointless and seems like it's absolutely unending. Pretty much every angle has been covered. Every point, plot hole, inconsistency, etc.

At this point, whining about the films is just a waste of breath. The argument's been heard from both sides. Neither will budge.

Those who inflict pain upon themselves in this manner, repeatedly, should have no voice.
Those who poke the wound and say "I told you so", repeatedly, should have no voice.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is one of those films where you have a rocky start and therefore shouldn't attempt to see the sequel. But fans, audiences and critics did. It turned out to be a fantastic film, and quite possibly the best out of the entire series. If they hadn't given it a chance, they'd never know the awesome.

Same thing here. People NEED to give it a chance, for themselves. Then you hear good things about the next sequel and curiosity kicks in, etc.

It's part of human nature.
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Capt.Failure » Wed May 02, 2012 6:59 am

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Capt.Failure wrote:
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Capt.Failure wrote:Eh, as I said before my comments had nothing to do with someone not liking the movie. It had everything to do with someone hating the movie then going back to see two sequels knowing they'd hate them, then complaining like they're surprised. It's a common sense issue. Was hoping that seemed apparent. :-?

To draw an example I thought The Fantastic Four was pure crap and felt offended they stole my money. I sure as hell didn't go see Rise of the Silver Surfer.
Well, it's not impossible for one to go to a movie, dislike it, then go see the sequel expecting it to be just as unlikable, but instead find the sequel to be surprisingly more entertaining.

To use your Fantastic four example, when I saw that movie, it bored me. Then I saw Rise of the Silver Surfer and, up until the last part of the climax, I found it to be much more enjoyable than the first movie. The first movie was mostly experimentation and science talk, with one big action scene coming in too little too late. The second movie pulled me in more with more action, more suspense, and a big power battle with Doom that I that was much cooler. The only big downside of the film for me was what they did to Galactus and how easily beaten he was. But up until that point, the rest felt more fun to me than the first movie.

Now as for Transformers, what's wrong with wanting these people to learn from their experiences with the first three films and try to make something a little more worthwhile with the fourth?


Not a thing. But I'm just going to laugh at someone who's surprised they didn't like the sequels. You obviously based your expectations on Rise of the Silver Surfer off the previous film. That's both rational and how a normal person would act. However you understood the risk you took seeing a sequel to a film you didn't like.

Then there's someone who's honestly surprised a sequel to a film they hated is a film they hate, and complain like it's a surprise. My common sense is tingling and it's telling me you* have none.

*Note: I mean "you" as in "nebulous group of people I'm speaking of, not you Sabrblade


Ah, but you should be fair, to some degree.

We're the Transformers fandom...
-If they make a movie, we want to see it.
-If it's good, we want to make it a success.
-If it's not good, we hold out hope that the sequel will be better.
-We're flawed. We're human. We're prone to doing these things over and over.

Granted, they shouldn't complain past a certain point. It does become pointless and seems like it's absolutely unending. Pretty much every angle has been covered. Every point, plot hole, inconsistency, etc.

At this point, whining about the films is just a waste of breath. The argument's been heard from both sides. Neither will budge.

Those who inflict pain upon themselves in this manner, repeatedly, should have no voice.
Those who poke the wound and say "I told you so", repeatedly, should have no voice.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is one of those films where you have a rocky start and therefore shouldn't attempt to see the sequel. But fans, audiences and critics did. It turned out to be a fantastic film, and quite possibly the best out of the entire series. If they hadn't given it a chance, they'd never know the awesome.

Same thing here. People NEED to give it a chance, for themselves. Then you hear good things about the next sequel and curiosity kicks in, etc.

It's part of human nature.


Wrong. It is the duty of those with common sense to guide those without it. This isn't an issue of "stop liking/not liking what I don't like" and more about preventing self harm in your fellow man, even if it's in such a minor way as people consuming things they dislike over and over. The definition of insanity, after all, is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. When a person attempts to make me look stupid because I use common sense it's only more reason to criticize the error of their ways.

Whether the Transformers films were good or bad, whether you liked them or didn't like them isn't and wasn't the point. My point was and still is as follows:

"You shot yourself in the foot. Stop shooting yourself, because it's only going to hurt more each time."

And that's the bottom line.
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby OptiMagnus » Wed May 02, 2012 7:00 pm

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Putting the trite arguments aside, I'm happy Kruger is back for two reasons:

1. I liked DOTM the best out of the trilogy. Not that I didn't like the others, but I think Ehren Kruger by himself is just a better writer than Orci and Kurtzman.

2. The fact that we are seeing more of these familiar names from the past movies is a relief to me; that TF4 will be a continuation and not a reboot. "But us fans hate the movies as they are, so we need a reboot now," one might say. However, my fear of a reboot is that we would just add to the arguments. We might get a third faction- the "I liked the old movies better and these new movies RUINED the older films for me because they're too radically different" faction. Granted, if a reboot was more "G1" a lot of the current opposition might change, but then again it might not change at all, but I honestly think it would be healthier to not fix somethin' that ain't broke, in terms of commercial success. The film continuity already has old consistent TF fans, new fans, and returning fans on its side that form sort of its own cult following, and many in these groups are probably happy with what we have now and just want to see more built on it, and scrapping it may disturb the peace. Then again, it doesn't have any of the true fans on its side...so maybe I'm wrong... That's supposed to be a joke
I'm not trying to be an alarmist, but this is certainly possible.
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