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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby autobotOG » Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:08 am

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synthetik wrote:I know this thing is being greenlit for making dosh but can we stop dragging TF's good name through puddles of shit mud? Call it something else, give it some cool lore than hasbro can sell TFs and "insert shitty bayformer robot title here".

It took me a year or so to finally watch dark side of the moon and I was ashamed to be a TF fan afterwards.


Oh well.

autobotOG wrote: Yes, there were the obvious plotholes (especially in revenge)


No there weren't.



No? So you don't think the fact that Megatron could be reanimated with a shard from the allspark, but it was necessary to travel to Egypt and find an ancient autobot relic to reanimate optimus (with shard of allspark in hand, mind you) wasent an OBVIOUS plothole?
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:11 pm

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autobotOG wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
synthetik wrote:I know this thing is being greenlit for making dosh but can we stop dragging TF's good name through puddles of shit mud? Call it something else, give it some cool lore than hasbro can sell TFs and "insert shitty bayformer robot title here".

It took me a year or so to finally watch dark side of the moon and I was ashamed to be a TF fan afterwards.


Oh well.

autobotOG wrote: Yes, there were the obvious plotholes (especially in revenge)


No there weren't.



No? So you don't think the fact that Megatron could be reanimated with a shard from the allspark, but it was necessary to travel to Egypt and find an ancient autobot relic to reanimate optimus (with shard of allspark in hand, mind you) wasent an OBVIOUS plothole?


Easy enough to explain.

Megatron's spark chamber wasn't completely destroyed, nor was his torso. Plus, Scalpel and the diving team rebuilt him before giving him the shard. Plus, the Allspark is known for magical macguffin resurrections.

Optimus, on the other hand, had his entire spark chamber destroyed, his torso was basically gone because of the stab/blast combo, and no one had any Allspark pieces lying around. The last known piece was used by Sam to revive Jetfire. The only source of Energon on Earth, was the Matrix of Leadership.
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby autobotOG » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:30 pm

See, I saw it a different way...I thought in the battle in the woods, it was optimus's abdominal area that was destroyed (hence the new abs in dark of the Moon), i thought his spark chamber was higher up...in the chest area you could say. Where as, Megatron had the all spark actually INSERTED into his spark chamber, leaving it a charred hole. So it would make more sense to me than an all spark shard would be more effective on optimus. And I get Megatron was rebuilt prior to reanimation, but couldn't ratchet had repaired him enough for him to be brought back to life? That, and Sam knew of the second shards existance 30 minutes into the movie, you would have thought he would have at least tried it first before venturing off into the unknown, right?

Either way, I don't need a seemless plot to enjoy a movie about bots and cons, so I liked it regardless, LOL
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby SlyTF1 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:55 pm

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autobotOG wrote:See, I saw it a different way...I thought in the battle in the woods, it was optimus's abdominal area that was destroyed (hence the new abs in dark of the Moon), i thought his spark chamber was higher up...in the chest area you could say. Where as, Megatron had the all spark actually INSERTED into his spark chamber, leaving it a charred hole. So it would make more sense to me than an all spark shard would be more effective on optimus. And I get Megatron was rebuilt prior to reanimation, but couldn't ratchet had repaired him enough for him to be brought back to life? That, and Sam knew of the second shards existance 30 minutes into the movie, you would have thought he would have at least tried it first before venturing off into the unknown, right?

Either way, I don't need a seemless plot to enjoy a movie about bots and cons, so I liked it regardless, LOL


Optimus's whole chest got blown out. Plus, Wheelie was the human's only source of information, and he lead them to Jetfire (possibly) in the hopes that Jetfire was still a Decepticon and would kill the humans and return him to the Decepticons.
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:26 pm

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autobotOG wrote:See, I saw it a different way...I thought in the battle in the woods, it was optimus's abdominal area that was destroyed (hence the new abs in dark of the Moon), i thought his spark chamber was higher up...in the chest area you could say. Where as, Megatron had the all spark actually INSERTED into his spark chamber, leaving it a charred hole. So it would make more sense to me than an all spark shard would be more effective on optimus. And I get Megatron was rebuilt prior to reanimation, but couldn't ratchet had repaired him enough for him to be brought back to life? That, and Sam knew of the second shards existance 30 minutes into the movie, you would have thought he would have at least tried it first before venturing off into the unknown, right?

Either way, I don't need a seemless plot to enjoy a movie about bots and cons, so I liked it regardless, LOL


Here are the problems with your theory.

1.) His "abs" were rebuilt, and intact, and looked as they did prior to his killing blow.
2.) Sam rammed the Matrix into his chest cavity between the two windshield pieces.
3.) Both the Voyager and Leader Class toys are rather accurate to the CGI model, at least from the front, and the Matrix cavity is above his abs.

The All Spark's energy was released into Megatron's chest/spark chamber, with a shard left over (the one Optimus took), but the cube itself never entered his body.

Optimus told Sam to run. He wasn't concerned with his own safety. With Prime dying, Decepticons everywhere, and the crew shattered and shook to their core, no one was thinking clearly. To top that off, The Fallen had made their presence known, which caused hysteria.

Plus, fate decided that Sam needed to recover the Matrix by accepting his destiny.

Is it perfect? No. Is it full of plot holes? No.
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby all_the_primes » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:44 pm

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The sight of TF4 has always burned my eyes. BUT THIS?! No... TF4 is just bad idea. :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby SlyTF1 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:05 pm

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all_the_primes wrote:The sight of TF4 has always burned my eyes. BUT THIS?! No... TF4 is just bad idea. :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:


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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:11 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:
all_the_primes wrote:The sight of TF4 has always burned my eyes. BUT THIS?! No... TF4 is just bad idea. :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:


You've never seen it. So how could the sight of it burn your eyes?


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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby all_the_primes » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:12 am

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Autobot032 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
all_the_primes wrote:The sight of TF4 has always burned my eyes. BUT THIS?! No... TF4 is just bad idea. :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:


You've never seen it. So how could the sight of it burn your eyes?


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As in, the sight is THE WORDS. I need a better choice of words #-o
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Re: Ehren Kruger Confirmed as TF4 Writer

Postby Capt.Failure » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:23 am

SlyTF1 wrote:
all_the_primes wrote:The sight of TF4 has always burned my eyes. BUT THIS?! No... TF4 is just bad idea. :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:


You've never seen it. So how could the sight of it burn your eyes?


The sign of a true, professional critic: judge something before it even releases. :roll:
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