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Energon and Cybertron link?

Postby viruscarnage » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:26 am

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I went back and watched the Unicron Trilogy and I don't really understand the link between Energon and Cybertron, could someone clear this up for me?
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Re: Energon and Cybertron link?

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:45 am

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viruscarnage wrote:I went back and watched the Unicron Trilogy and I don't really understand the link between Energon and Cybertron, could someone clear this up for me?


Funny you should ask, as it's extremely complicated. Here's the long and short of it.

1) The cartoon was originally produced in Japan as Galaxy Force. Unlike in the US, Japan treated it as a separate series, not as a sequel to Energon (TakaraTomy would later retcon that, but that's a different can of worms). So there originally was no link, which forced the English dubbing to be... haphazard.

2) The English localisation had to invent several explanations to fill all those plot holes. Here's a small list of differences:

a) that black hole is called the Unicron Singularity, created when the sun at the end of Energon collapsed on itself. That was lost in the Japanese version, where it was nothing more than a generic plot device.

b) As it was a completely new series in Japan, the principle of having to hide from humanity was reset. The dub, treating Cybertron like a sequel, added that the reality-warping effect of the black hole made everyone forget stuff: Autobots forgot about Earth, humans forgot Transformers ever existed. Too convenient for my tastes, but eh.

c) Override is a dude in the Japanese version. Ok, this is more Cartoon Network's doing and not a significant difference, moving on...

As it currently stands, Energon and Cybertron are connected as intended. Blame it on the Unicron Singularity for convenience sake, that things messed up a lot of things.
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Re: Energon and Cybertron link?

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:07 am

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^ A lot of those explanations you mentioned mostly came from the Fun Pub Cybertron comics instead of the English cartoon dub.

The dub mostly invented the black hole being caused by the destruction of Unicron, calling Megatron's new look the "Armor of Unicron", and making the characters of Cybertron who resembled old characters be those old characters.
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