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Exodus Vs.

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:39 am

Motto: "FOR THE EARTH!!!"
Weapon: Saber Blade
Ever since I first heard about the War for Cybertron video game, I had had a strong curiosity about what sort of story it would tell. All I knew at the time was… that it was set before the war escalated to Earth. Granted, this was long before we knew about the Transformers: Prime cartoon or anything of the Aligned Continuity. Ergo, I had an urge to find any clue as to what sort of story this game would tell and where it go from there.

Then, some point prior to BotCon 2010, more info about the game kept coming out. Any suspicions I had about it being a prequel to some Generation 1 fiction (as was originally believed by many) began to somewhat flicker, as word about this game being some sort of foundation for a new “mega-continuity” became known. But, I still wasn’t certain of what that meant.

By the time of BotCon 2010, I had then come to the awareness of a certain novel titled “Transformers: Exodus – The Official History of the War for Cybertron”. Hearing such a title led me to assume that it was merely the War for Cybertron game in a novelized form. An assumption that I would later find out to be a severe fallacy on my part.

After having this book recommended to me at BotCon, I picked up a copy of my own at a later point, but only began to read it once I found the time. Prior to reading it, however, was when I had discovered that my previously-made assumption about the book was incorrect. I began to read some opinions about this book and many other people agreed that it was drastically different from the game it was based on. This notion intrigued me greatly.

After having finally taken the time to read this book and then experience the WFC console game, I developed an urge to decipher this book’s continuity, picking out what all made this book’s story different from that of its game counterpart. However, as the months went on (that’s right, this project has taken me several months to complete) this task soon became much more than that.

What started out as compare/constrast deal between the Exodus novel and the WFC console game grew to incorporate aspects from other TF franchises as well. Now, I’ve gone and compared/contrasted key elements from Exodus with those in WFC, the G1 cartoon, the two Beast Era cartoons, the three Unicron Trilogy cartoons, the live action movie fiction, and the Animated fiction.

And thus, I give you "Exodus Vs."

Basically, this is a look at how the Exodus novel differs from the other listed series, showing off how unique it is in its own right, while also presenting how other series themselves are unique from the book’s story. As such, this comparison gives key evidence to show how Exodus exists as its own distinctive entity separate from these other series.

However, since there is about a bajillion different series and versions of Transformers series out there, I have only included the WFC console game, the G1 cartoon, the two Beast Era cartoons, the Unicron Trilogy cartoons, the Movie fiction (films and IDW comics) and the Animated fiction (cartoon, IDW comics, and Almanacs) in this comparison since those are the ones I know the most about.

I have omitted all other comic series since I haven’t read enough of them to include them. And I’ve also left out such cartoons as RiD since there wasn’t as much backstory put into them as these ones. And I’ve also left out the Japanese version stuff since I mostly wanted to keep this focused on the American side of things. If I can find the time to get better familiar with some of the things that I’ve omitted, I can always come back to this and fill them into their proper places on this list.

And, to make this a little easier, I have taken the time to make this comparison “Color Coded for Your Convenience”. Though, do note that there are a LOT of *SPOILERS* below. So, if you have not seen a decent amount of any of the following series, ignore the color of that/those series and read only the colors of those that you have seen.

Exodus
WFC
G1
Beast Era
Unicron Trilogy
Movies
Animated


So, without further ado, let us proceed into "Exodus Vs."

Exodus vs. WFC
Main character Autobots
  • Orion Pax/Optimus Prime, Alpha Trion, Jazz, Prowl, Ironhide, Bumblebee, Jetfire
  • Optimus/Optimus Prime, Zeta Prime, Bumblebee, Ratchet, Ironhide, Sideswipe, Jetfire, Air Raid, Warpath, Silverbolt

Exodus vs. WFC
Main character Decepticons
  • Megatron, Soundwave, Shockwave, Starscream, Catalycon, Trypticon
  • Megatron, Brawl, Barricade, Starscream, Soundwave, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Breakdown, Trypticon

Exodus vs. WFC
Minor character Autobots
  • Omega Supreme, Ultra Magnus, Sideswipe, Defensor, Revo, Cliffjumper, Springer
  • Omega Supreme, Jazz, Arcee

Exodus vs. WFC
Minor character Decepticons
  • Rumble, Ravage, Laserbeak, Barricade, Lugnut, Skywarp, Thundercracker, Frenzy, Ratbat, Contrail, Drixco, Devastator, Bruticus Maximus, Onslaught, Hotlink, Autoclave, Nacelle, Bitstream, Blackout
  • Rumble, Frenzy, Laserbeak

Exodus vs. WFC
Unaligned “neutral” characters
  • Sentinel Prime, Halogen, Chromatron, Gauntlet, Hydrau, Drivetrain, Sigil
  • Pretty much everyone was either Autobot or Decepticon-aligned

Exodus vs. G1 vs. Animated
Orion Pax’s occupation
  • Orion Pax was a data clerk who worked at the Hall of Records in Iacon.
  • Orion Pax was a dock worker who worked at an energy warehouse.
  • Optimus wasn’t originally Orion Pax, instead having first been nameless upon entering Boot Camp (where he received his “Optimus” name), then later attended the Autobot Academy before being reduced to Space Bridge maintenance.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Unicron Trilogy vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Space Bridge technology
  • In ancient times, Cybertron had been linked with other colony worlds (including Gigantion, Velocitron, and the Hub) via a network of Space Bridges.
  • The use of Space Bridges had become obsolete, with one sole bridge remaining; its inactive structure now floats in space between the two moons and the Asteroid Belt.
  • Space Bridge technology was first conceived by Shockwave in 1984.
  • The Hub was not part of this Space Bridge network.
  • While the cosmically-scaled Space Bridges linking the many planets of Cybertron, Earth, Velocitron, Jungle Planet, and Gigantion together no longer existed, smaller-scaled Space Bridges still existed and functioned for standard common use.
  • The Dynasty of Primes had the ability to conjure up Space Bridges at will, while later model transformers were not equipped with such features and instead began to rely on Space Bridge nodes for long distance travel.
  • Originally, the Space Bridges were Autobot-exclusive creations, as they were a key factor in defeating the Decepticons during the war.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Unicron Trilogy vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Megatron’s opinion of Shockwave
  • Megatron did not trust Shockwave at all and firmly believed that Shockwave would one day turn against him as Shockwave’s loyalty would surely falter (despite Shockwave eventually becoming Megatron’s second-in-command).
  • Megatron fully trusted Shockwave, as he was one of Megatron's most loyal and most favored of all Decepticons.
  • Megatron viewed Tidal Wave (called Shockwave in Japan) as a very loyal, yet simple-minded, soldier.
  • Megatron viewed Shockblast as a powerful addition to his troops, but also did not fully trust him due to his arrogant behavior and sociopathic nature.
  • Megatron saw Shockwave as his old friend and comrade prior to the Autobot/Decepticon war.
  • Megatron considered Shockwave to be his “most loyal servant," despite his awareness of Lugnut’s fanaticism of him.

Exodus vs. the Unicron Trilogy
The presence of Minicons/Mini-Cons on Cybertron
  • Minicons are basically any small-sized Transformer, being no more unique than just that.
  • Minicons were on Cybertron prior to the war.
  • Minicons remained on Cybertron during the war.
  • Mini-Cons are tiny Transformers created by Unicron and possess a tremendous power that, when attached to a larger “bulk” Transformer, evolves the weaponry and abilities of the larger Transformer.
  • Mini-Cons first appeared on Cybertron at the height of the war, escalating the war to a “cataclysmic upheaval” and eventual stalemate in power.
  • Seeing themselves as the cause of the war, the Mini-Cons decided to leave Cybertron, with the Autobots fully supporting their decision.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Unicron Trilogy vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Soundwave’s minions as Mini-Cons/Minicons
  • Soundwave’s minions are referred to as “Minicons” (his Hall of Fame bio also calls them both this and “Deployers” as well).
  • Soundwave’s minions are not Mini-Cons, as no official retcon has established such.
  • Soundwave’s partner Laserbeak is directly stated to not be a Mini-Con. Nor does his toy bear a Mini-Con Powerlinx port.
  • Soundwave’s minions are not described as being Mini-Cons.
  • Soundwave’s minions were created on Earth in the 22nd Century and bear no identifiable relation to Mini-Cons (other than being kinda small).

Exodus vs. the Unicron Trilogy
Megatron’s opinion of Mini-Cons/Minicons
  • Megatron did not trust Minicons at all, including those belonging to Soundwave.
  • Megatron voraciously wanted to possess each and every Mini-Con in existence, craving the power that they possessed.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. Animated
How Orion Pax and Megatron first met
  • Orion Pax first learned of Megatron(us) via listening to Grid transmissions from the gladiatorial arena pits in Kaon.
  • Orion Pax and Megatron first come in contact with each other via a secret conversation transmitted over the Grid.
  • Orion Pax kept in touch with Megatron, conversing frequently with him via Grid videolink.
  • Despite all these conversations he had with him, Orion Pax had yet to meet Megatron in person.
  • Orion Pax and Megatron first meet in person when Orion pays his first visit to Kaon.
  • Orion Pax first learns of Megatron by hearing about “some new kind of robot that can fly," and then seeing Megatron flying over his warehouse.
  • Orion first meets Megatron when Megs touches down at the warehouse and introduces himself.
  • Orion Pax had never personally met or known Megatron up until that exact moment.
  • During his Academy days, cadet Optimus faced against a simulation of Megatron, viewing his image up close for the first time.
  • Optimus and Megatron met each other for the first real time when Megatron tried to steal the AllSpark from Optimus’ ship.

Exodus vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Jazz’s occupation
  • Jazz was a cultural investigator who would come to the Hall of Records to analyze data from the Communications Grid, and had befriended Orion Pax during these tasks.
  • Jazz was a member of the Cybertron Security Force serving under Prowl.
  • Jazz had trained under Master Yoketron as a member of the Cyber-Ninja Corps, and later became a member of the Elite Guard.

Exodus vs. the Beast Era
The Covenant of Primus
  • The Covenant of Primus contains actual pages that Alpha Trion writes down on with the Quill.
  • The Covenant of Primus has no real pages, instead containing a standard-sized cassette tape that plays text onto a screen inside its covers.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. Animated
Events leading to Cybertron’s Golden Age
  • The Original 13 Transformers had fought the brutal War of the Primes, which forged and divided their allegiances and had destroyed them, scattering them across the stars.
  • The Golden Age had immediately followed the War of the Primes, and was an era involved in Space Bridge use.
  • There were no wars between the War of the Primes and the Golden Age. There had been an invasion by the Quintessons and a presumed attack by Unicron, but no war.
  • Two Cybertronian Wars had taken place prior to the Golden Age.
  • The first was the slave revolt against the Quintessons, who were the original masters of Cybertron and not invaders.
  • The second war occurred shortly after the first, with the Autobots defeating the Decepticons with the stealthy art of Transformation. The Golden Age occurred after that, and Guardian Robots were used to maintain peace.
  • The First Cybertronian War was fought against invaders from “beyond the sky”.
  • After only this first war, the Golden Age began.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1 vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Optimus Prime’s immediate predecessor
  • Sentinel Prime immediately preceded Optimus Prime
  • Zeta Prime immediately preceded Optimus Prime (NOTE: Hasbro retconned these two into being the same individual, formally known as "Sentinel Zeta Prime.")
  • Sentinel Prime and Zeta Prime are two separate individuals. Sentinel preceded Optimus, and Zeta preceded Sentinel, whereas the two are the same guy above.
  • Sentinel Prime immediately preceded Optimus Prime.
  • Optimus Prime was not Autobot Supreme Commander, and thus had no immediate predecessor.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Unicron Trilogy vs. the Movies vs. Animated
The lineage of Primes to reign before Optimus
  • Sentinel Prime seems to have been the only Prime in existence following the War of the Primes to come before Optimus, as he brought forth the Golden Age and then established the Caste System afterward, bringing the Golden Age to its end.
  • There was a long line of Primes that came before Optimus: Primon, the Alpha Prime --> Prima --> Prime Nova A.K.A. Nova Prime --> Guardian Prime --> Zeta Prime --> Sentinel Prime --> Optimus Prime
  • The only other Autobot leader known other than Optimus Prime was Rodimus, but he did not bear the Prime title and was of equal rank to Optimus.
  • There had been an entire Dynasty of Primes to come before Optimus
  • Optimus was not Autobot Supreme Commander and thus did not have any lineage of predecessors. Plus, here, the highest rank of leadership was called “Magnus”, with “Prime” being a lower rank.
  • However, those who were known to have bore the Magnus rank include Zeemon Magnus, Nova Magnus, Powered Convoy “P.C." Magnus, and Ultra Magnus. Sentinel Prime became the “acting Magnus”, but hasn’t officially received the rank yet.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. Animated
Orion Pax’s closest friends
  • Jazz was Orion Pax’s best friend, and had been long since before Pax was renamed “Optimus Prime”.
  • Dion was Orion Pax’s best friend, while Ariel (later “Elita One”) was Orion Pax’s girlfriend.
  • Sentinel and Elita-1 (not “Ariel” or “Elita One”) were Optimus’ closest “friends” back in his boot camp and academy days.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Unicron Trilogy vs. Animated
How Optimus/Orion learned how to fight
  • Orion Pax had to teach himself how to fight, training with Jazz and other data clerks along the way.
  • Alpha Trion had rebuilt Orion Pax into Optimus Prime as an already combat-savvy warrior.
  • Optimus Prime had learned hand-to-hand combat from training under the Decepticon-turned-Autobot Scavenger.
  • He then learned Metallikato from training with Landmine later on as well.
  • Optimus had attended Autobot Boot Camp under Kup Minor, and later attended the Autobot Academy.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1 vs. the Unicron Trilogy vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Megatron’s opinion of Orion Pax/Optimus Prime
  • Megatron viewed Orion Pax as his friend and ally.
  • Megatron referred to Orion as his “brother” out of respect for him and their friendship.
  • Megatron firmly believed that Orion Pax/Optimus Prime had ultimately betrayed him, using Megatron’s charisma and ambitions as a means to drive Orion/Optimus’ plan to obtain power of his own.
  • Megatron called Optimus “the prodigy," and wanted revenge on him for something that happened between the two of them long ago.
  • Megatron only wanted to steal the energy from Orion Pax’s warehouse and didn’t care for Orion Pax at all.
  • Megatron does not even know or recognize Orion after he’s rebuilt as Optimus Prime.
  • Megatron was obsessed with Optimus, seeing himself as the Yin to Optimus’ Yang. Eternal rivals destined to oppose each other for all time. With Optimus gone, Megatron would have no further challenges for him to face and beat.
  • Megatron and Optimus Prime were both brothers and co-rulers of Cybertron.
  • Megatron would tend to bicker with his brother over differing opinions from time to time, but still maintained a somewhat balanced form of government.
  • Megatron did not even know Optimus Prime’s name, seeing him as nothing more than another Autobot obstacle in his plans.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Beast Era vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Cybertronian birth
  • All Cybertronians were born from the AllSpark, carrying out the will of Primus inside the Well of All Sparks.
  • Once a Cybertronian emerges from the Well of All Sparks, they are immediately assigned to a specific caste.
  • The AllSpark, which gives birth to new Transformers inside the Well, was ejected from Cybertron, preventing any new Transformers from ever being born.
  • The original Cybertronians were created by the Quintessons, with their bodies forged from the Plasma Energy Chamber and granted life by Vector Sigma. Later generations of Cybertronians were apparently birthed by being built by pre-existing Cybertronians.
  • New Transformers could simply be mechanically constructed later in the war, with or without Vector Sigma’s life-granting abilities.
  • Protoform technology plays a key role in Cybertronian birth, as a Protoform is the earliest stage of a Transformer’s life and is granted a Spark from the Allspark (lowercase S) dimension (which Vector Sigma had access to).
  • The Allspark (lowercase S) contains a limitless supply of Sparks, as it bears every Cybertronian Spark of those who have lived and will live.
  • Transformers were birthed by the power of the Sacred Implement known as the AllSpark.
  • The AllSpark was ejected from Cybertron. Without it, Cybertronian birth wasn’t happening.
  • The Sacred Implement called the AllSpark is the source of all Cybertronian life, coupled with the Protoforms nurtured inside Stasis Pods stored inside the Matrix Chamber.
  • The AllSpark was launched from Cybertron into a Space Bridge to be lost in a random, unknown location. However, the Vector Sigma computer served as an alternative life-granting device.

Exodus vs. the Beast Era vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Protoforms
  • “Proto-forms” are birthed from the AllSpark in the Well of All Sparks.
  • In the past, Proto-forms would escape from the Underworld to the surface. But in the era of the Caste System, they would be educated inside the well, where they would be taught how to transform and be assigned to a specific caste.
  • “Proto-form” is the term used to refer to one’s Robot Mode.
  • Protoforms are the earliest stage of a Transformer’s life, being produced presumably from the Matrix and Pit facilities.
  • Protoforms are kept within Stasis Pods until they are granted sparks, given altmode programming, and become fully-functional transformers.
  • Protoforms are often used for transporting Transformers through space.
  • Protoforms are a Transformer’s most basic form, being nurtured within energon wombs.
  • Protoforms take on an exo-structure to use as their normal Robot Mode appearance, generated from the process of trans-scanning an altmode.
  • A Protoform is basically what one would call a “naked” Transformer, lacking its exo-structural armor components that would be the Cybertronian equivalent of clothing worn by Earth humans.
  • Protoforms are mined from the living protomatter found deep in the Sonic Canyons of Cybertron.
  • Each Protoform is then placed into and nurtured inside Stasis Pods that are stored and basked under the light of the Matrix Chamber, guarded by the Cyber-Ninja Corps.
  • Once they are placed into pre-built robot shells called “moulds”, each is then granted a spark by either the AllSpark or the ancient Vector Sigma computer.

Exodus vs. Animated
The Well of All Sparks
  • The Well of All Sparks is the birthplace of all Cybertronian life.
  • The Well of All Sparks is repeatedly referenced as being some sort of afterlife that all Transformers go to after their death (similar in concept to the Allspark, [lowercase S] of the Beast Era).

Exodus vs. WFC
Barricade’s physical appearance
  • Barricade was black and white with red optics.
  • Barricade was gray and purple with yellow optics.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Movies vs. Animated
The term “Autobot”
  • It was Orion Pax who coined the name “Autobot”, shortened from his “Autonomous Robots” idea.
  • The “Autobot” dates back to the Second Cybertronian War, before Orion Pax.
  • The term “Autobot” is a shortening of “Autonomous Robotic Organism”, being the actual name of the dominant race of Cybertron.
  • The term “Autobot” emerged in the ancient past after a long line of previously-established factions, following the Guardians, the Protectons and the Protectobots.

Exodus vs. the Movies vs. Animated
The term “Decepticon”
  • The term “Decepticon” was apparently coined by followers of Megatron’s ideals (though it is hinted that Megatron himself may have had something to do with the founding of this name).
  • The term “Decepticon” originally came from The Fallen in the past when he created a small army to stand against his brothers, the other Primes.
  • With The Fallen having been the first Decepticon, he came to tempting Megatron with his philosophy and the term later came to be applied to a splinter group of the Autobot race under Megatron’s command.
  • The term “Decepticon” emerged as the name of a sub-faction of the Destron faction long before Megatron was in command.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1 vs. the Movies vs. Animated
The Matrix’s whereabouts
  • The Matrix of Leadership was last known to reside in Altihex.
  • The Matrix of Leadership has been lost for quite some time (apparently not having been in the possession of Sentinel Prime either).
  • The Matrix of Leadership eventually came into the Core’s possession.
  • The Matrix of Leadership was in the Core’s possession.
  • The Matrix of Leadership had been passed down from each Autobot Leader. Sentinel Prime possessed it up until he was killed by Megatron. Then, it was given to Alpha Trion for safekeeping.
  • To protect the Matrix of Leadership from falling into the clutches of The Fallen, the last of the Seven/Thirteen Primes stole the Matrix and hid it in the Tomb of the Primes.
  • The AllSpark Matrix was not created until the 22nd Century, having been constructed from the remains of the previous AllSpark with the Magnus Hammer.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Movies
Starscream before the war
  • Starscream, Skywarp, and Thundercracker served as Sentinel Prime’s bodyguards right before the war.
  • Starscream was said to have attended the Cybertron War Academy, of which he claimed to be the pride of.
  • Starscream was commander of the Cybertron Defense Force.

Exodus vs. WFC
The initial relationship between Megatron and Starscream
  • Megatron and Starscream met face-to-face for the first time in the badlands, having apparently having met each other prior, before the war even begins.
  • Starscream is in league with Megatron before the war even begins.
  • Starscream is not a Decepticon and does not even know who Megatron is until much later in the war.
  • Starscream doesn’t ally himself with Megatron until after he witnesses Megatron’s control over Dark Energon.

Exodus vs. Itself
Starscream’s scientific status and history
  • Starscream had had a scientific career within Crystal City.
  • Starscream was not a scientist.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Unicron Trilogy vs. Animated
Soundwave’s loyalty
  • Soundwave’s loyalty wasn’t fully tied to Megatron, but to whomever he saw held to best control over Cybertron’s future. It just so happened that Megatron proved to Soundwave to be that someone.
  • Soundwave possessed an undying loyalty to Megatron, practically worshipping the ground Megatron walked on.
  • Soundwave bore a firm loyalty to his home planet, Planet X, and later pledged his servitude to Unicron, who, in exchange, promised to restore Planet X to its former, non-destroyed state.
  • While Soundwave had agreed to become a Decepticon, he never directly served under Megatron and seemed to have his own personal agenda, serving only himself.

Exodus vs. G1
How Rumble and Frenzy speak
  • Rumble and Frenzy can speak, but prefer to speak in beeping chirps on covert missions.
  • Rumble and Frenzy don’t speak in “beeps”. They speak normally at all times, under any circumstances.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Megatron’s origins
  • Megatron was birthed from the Well during the reign of the Caste System, becoming a mine worker identified as “D-16”.
  • Megatron did not originally have a name, and so had taken one from one of the Original 13, Megatronus.
  • Megatronus’ name was changed to “Megatron” by the chanting of the arena crowd shortening his name to end his name on a stronger syllable.
  • Megatron had once lived under the management of the crime bosses who ran the gladiator pits, until he disposed of them all and took control of the pits himself.
  • Megatron was created between the Second and Third Cybertronian Wars, having been built individuals who appear to be the Constructicons.
  • Megatron was Lord High Protector of Cybertron, ruling in equal rank alongside his brother Optimus Prime.
  • All that’s known of Megatron prior to becoming Decepticon Leader is that he overthrew the faction’s former leader, Megazarak, and then took control onward from there.

Exodus vs. Animated
Ratbat’s history
  • Ratbat was a Minicon councilor in the High Council; one of the three councilors to survive during the war.
  • Ratbat, along with Laserbeak, was a creation of Soundwave’s built on Earth in the 22nd Century, both having followed such prototypical minions as Buzzsaw, Sunder, Garboil, and Wingthing.

Exodus vs. G1
The Quintessons on Cybertron
  • The Quintessons came to Cybertron as invaders wanting to enslave its existing populace, but were driven off by the Elite Guard.
  • The Quintessons were the original rulers of Cybertron, having created the race of Cybertronian robots that would become the Transformers.

Exodus vs. G1
The leader who drove the Quints off Cybertron
  • The Elite Guardsman who would become known as Sentinel Prime led Cybertron against its Quintesson invaders
  • A rebel known as A3 led the slave revolt against the Quintesson masters of Cybertron.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1 vs. the Movies vs. Animated
How “Optimus Prime” came to be
  • Orion Pax becomes “Optimus Prime” via a simple name change by the High Council and during the post-Golden Age time of the Caste System.
  • Optimus is officially named Prime by Alpha Trion, long after he was given the same name as a de facto title, and only after Sentinel Prime’s passing.
  • Optimus Prime was never referred to as “Orion Pax” before his Prime promotion. He was only ever called just “Optimus”. Nothing more, nothing less.
  • Optimus assumes a temporary command after he learns of the loss of Zeta Prime, but is not yet renamed as Prime.
  • Optimus is given the title of Prime (for the first time) by the High Council after Zeta Prime’s passing. Before, Optimus had stated that there were no Primes, indicating that he had not ever been one up until that point.
  • Orion Pax is rebuilt into an entirely new form by Alpha Trion, who gives him the name of “Optimus Prime." This process of his occurs during the Golden Age.
  • Optimus (not Orion Pax) inherited the title of Prime from Sentinel Prime
  • A nameless Autobot cadet was given the name “Optimus” in Boot Camp by Kup Minor, for his cheerfulness and optimism.
  • Cadet Optimus was given the rank of Prime by Autobot Supreme Commander Ultra Magnus after pulling a few strings and seeing potential in the youth.

Exodus vs. Animated
Ultra Magnus before the war
  • Ultra Magnus was sergeant of the Council Guardians and later became the leader of the Wreckers.
  • The young cadet Ultra was given his name by Impactor Major (who was presumably ranked Minor back then) in Autobot Boot Camp.
  • Later, as Ultra Prime, he was sworn in as Autobot Supreme Commander with the rank of Magnus, due to growing war tensions instigated by Megatron.

Exodus vs. WFC
Starscream’s attendance on Trypticon station
  • Starscream barely ever went to Trypticon Station during the war.
  • Starscream was once Sky Commander until he was betrayed and demoted to guarding the station at all times.

Exodus vs. G1
Crystal City’s destruction
  • Crystal City was destroyed by the Constructicons as Devastator.
  • More Constructicons aside from those who were merged into Devastator helped attack Crystal City.
  • Several Autobots defended Crystal City before it fell.
  • Crystal City was destroyed by being torn apart and collapsed, leaving it as nothing but a big husk of ruins.
  • Starscream fought during the battle that destroyed Crystal City.
  • Crystal City’s ruins were shattered even further by Trypticon’s impact later on.
  • Crystal City was destroyed by the Constructicons in their Vehicle Modes
  • The City had no one defending it, as its guardian, Omega Supreme, had stepped away while it was destroyed instantaneously.
  • Crystal City was destroyed by being blown up, leaving nothing but a few chunks of debris sprawled on the ground.
  • Starscream was not present during Crystal City’s immediate destruction.
  • There were no ruins of the city remaining, just some crumbled pieces of rubble.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Movies vs. Animated
The # of Constructicons that form Devastator
  • It is believed that the Devastator who destroyed Crystal City had seven components.
  • If there are enough Constructicons present, two Devastators can be formed.
  • Only six Constructicons form Devastator, and there’s only one Devastator.
  • A varying amount of Constructicons can form Devastator. Sometimes six, sometimes seven, sometimes even as many as nine!
  • There are only three Constructicons, but none of them can combine.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1
The Combaticons
  • Bruticus Maximus was awakened from teracycles of suspended animation by Megatron.
  • Shockwave was the one who made the Combaticons combine into Bruticus Maximus.
  • Brawl exists, but he’s not stated to be a Combaticon. Nor is he given any backstory of his own.
  • No Bruticus character appeared in the WFC console game.
  • The Combaticons were once the “Renegade Decepticons” whose Personality Components were removed by Shockwave under Megatron’s direct orders. Their history gives no indication that they had ever been anything other than “Renegade Decepticons”.
  • Starscream was the one who made the Combaticons combine into Bruticus.

Exodus vs. Itself
Combaticons or not?
  • Bruticus Maximus and Onslaught are referred to as “Constructicons”.
  • The Combaticons are later mentioned in the book.

Exodus vs. WFC
Ironhide’s view of Optimus as his leader
  • Ironhide had to warm up to the idea of Optimus being his leader.
  • Ironhide had always felt confident in Optimus becoming the Autobot leader.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Bumblebee’s initial relation to Optimus
  • Bumblebee became an Autobot under Optimus Prime’s direct command immediately after coming online, being mentored by the likes of Jazz and Ironhide.
  • Bumblebee was not a member of Optimus’ team until after Optimus learned of Zeta Prime’s defeat. Neither one of them knew each other either.
  • Bumblebee was a guardian of the AllSpark at the Temple of Simfur and not tied directly to Optimus Prime until the war began.
  • Bumblebee became a crew member of the Orion under Optimus Prime’s command after having been kicked out of Autobot Boot Camp.
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Exodus vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Megatron and the AllSpark
  • Megatron did not pursue the AllSpark after it was launched into space, instead remaining on Cybertron to continue the war.
  • Megatron immediately chased the AllSpark into space after it was launched, leaving the rest of his troops behind.
  • Megatron had been searching for the AllSpark for four million stellar cycles, even well after the Great War had ended.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1 vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Bumblebee’s voice
  • Bumblebee’s vocoder had been destroyed by Megatron.
  • Bumblebee could speak without difficulty.
  • Bumblebee could speak without difficulty.
  • Bumblebee’s voice capacitor/vocal processor had been crushed by Megatron.
  • Bumblebee could speak (and speak and speak and speak) without difficulty.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Unicron Trilogy
Cybertron’s awareness of Unicron
  • Unicron’s past existence and identity are known of to Cybertronians.
  • Unicron’s existence wasn’t made known until 2005. Not even Kup (as old as he is) had heard of him.
  • Unicron’s existence was not made known until 2010, even though he had made previous appearances in the ancient past. Apparently, these records of his past existence weren’t discovered until after his return.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1 vs. the Movies
The Seekers
  • Seekers are any flying Decepticons with a jet-like altmode.
  • Jetfire referred to himself as a “Seeker” still.
  • Seekers are any flying Decepticons with a jet-like altmode.
  • Jetfire considered himself a full Aerialbot.
  • Seekers all resemble the body-type of Starscream, Skywarp, and Thundercracker (with the Coneheads bearing their own slightly altered, but still very similar, designs).
  • Skyfire was never stated to have been part of this group.
  • There are two different groups of Seekers in the Movies. One is a present-day group of jet Decepticons led by Starscream and consisting of Thundercracker, Skywarp, Ramjet, Thrust, and Dirge (despite their body differences).
  • The other is an ancient group of space-faring Transformers (including Jetfire) who served under the Dynasty of Primes.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1
The Aerialbots
  • Aerialbots are any flying Autobots with a jet-like altmode.
  • The Aerialbots were former Seekers who were loyal to the Autobots.
  • There was no indication that any of the Aerialbots could combine, as Defensor was made out to be the Autobots’ only combiner.
  • Aerialbots are any flying Autobots with a jet-like altmode.
  • Air Raid, Silverbolt, and the Aerialbot subgroup all exist on Cybertron during the pre-Earth war.
  • There was no indication that any of the Aerialbots could combine
  • There were only five Aerialbots: Silverbolt, Air Raid, Skydive, Slingshot, and Fireflight.
  • The Aerialbots were created in 1985 from five Cybertronian rockets redesigned to resemble Earth planes and given life by Vector Sigma.
  • The five Aerialbots could combines to form Superion.

Exodus vs. WFC
Trypticon Station and the Decepticons
  • Trypticon Station has been in the possession of the Decepticons throughout the majority of the war. Though, not directly under Megatron’s control, but still under that of a fully-Decepticon Starscream.
  • Trypticon Station is not yet under Decepticon control until very late in the war.

Exodus vs. WFC
Starscream’s rank
  • Starscream had other Air Commanders under his command (as though Starscream himself wasn’t just an Air Commander, but a higher rank than that as well).
  • Having been previously demoted from Sky Commander, Starscream was tempted by Megatron into serving him, claiming that he can restore Starscream’s lost rank, which Starscream scoffed at.

Exodus vs. WFC
Starscream’s knowledge of Dark Energon
  • Starscream neither knows what Dark Energon nor has seen it for himself yet, when he has had access to it since the war’s beginning.
  • Starscream did not know the amount of Dark Energon remaining on Trypticon Station.
  • Starscream is well versed on the dangers of Dark Energon and how to make more.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1
The presence and use of Energon
  • Both the Autobots and the Decepticons use Energon and Energon Cubes.
  • Both the Autobots and the Decepticons use Energon and Energon Cubes.
  • The Decepticons have a monopoly on Energon. In the first episode, Hound referred to them as being "some kind of cube", indicating that the Autobots were unaware of them until their reawakening on Earth in 1984. The "Traitor" episode makes it clear that the Autobots do not use Energon Cubes during this time in the war either, opting to use Recharging Chambers instead, as seen in “Attack of the Autobots”. They don't appear to start fully using them until some point closer to 2005. Though, the "War Dawn" episode does show the Autobots storing what look to be Energon Cubes during the flashbacks to Cybertron's Golden Age, but this could be explained in two ways. One, it could be another of the G1 cartoon's many continuity errors and nothing more. Or two, since the word "Energon" is never actually used in these scenes and only the word "energy" is spoken, it could instead be considered an animation error.

Exodus vs. G1
The authenticity of Energon
  • Energon is the emanation of Primus, which means it is natural energon.
  • Energon was created from secondary sources of energy, meaning that this energon was an artificial substitute.

Exodus vs. WFC
Sentinel Zeta Prime’s whereabouts during the war
  • All this time during the war, Sentinel Prime had been kept locked up inside a cell on Moon Base One.
  • Following the reactivation of the Geosynchronous Energon Bridge, Starscream contacted Moon Base One to commence “Operation: Unlock”.
  • Sentinel Prime had been freed from his prison on Moon Base One by Starscream.
  • Zeta Prime was the active leader of the Autobots all throughout the war, having never gone missing.

Exodus vs. WFC
Sentinel Zeta Prime’s allegiance
  • Sentinel Prime was not an Autobot and refuses to take anyone’s side, wanting nothing to do with either of the Autobot and Decepticon movements.
  • Zeta Prime is the Autobot Leader from the very beginning.

Exodus vs. WFC
The taking of Trypticon Station by Megatron
  • To take control of the station, Megatron sent his Decepticon Gladiator Corps raging through Trypticon.
  • The gladiators took the station with ease.
  • No severe damage to the station was documented in the book.
  • Jetfire was no longer stationed on Trypticon by this point, as he had become an Autobot.
  • Starscream had been on Moon Base One while Megatron overtook Trypticon Station.
  • Shockwave was with Megatron on Trypticon Station when it was taken.
  • Megatron, Brawl, Barricade, and some few footsoldiers took the station by themselves.
  • The Decepticons met much resistance in the station.
  • A portion of the station had been destroyed by a Dark Energon explosion in the past.
  • Jetfire was on Trypticon Station and warned Megatron of the dangers of Dark Energon.
  • Starscream had locked down all main routes to the Dark Energon reactor, and then attempted to destroy what remained of the Dark Energon.
  • Shockwave was not involved in the main story of the game.

Exodus vs. Itself
Trypticon’s sentience
  • Trypticon Station had recently been recreated with a spark.
  • Later in the war, Megatron tasked Shockwave with granting Trypticon a Spark.

Exodus vs. WFC
The storage of Dark Energon
  • Dark Energon was stored inside ingots set in a rack housed inside a magnetically sealed case.
  • The Dark Energon was stored in a giant reactor.

Exodus vs. WFC
The first Decepticons to be given doses of Dark Energon were…
  • …two test subjects Megatron had Stascream choose, followed by Megatron himself.
  • …Megatron, followed by Brawl and Barricade.

Exodus vs. WFC
Dark Energon infusion
  • Megatron infuses himself with Dark Energon by inserting an ingot of it into his energon intake port.
  • Megatron gives his Decepticons Dark Energon doses with the same process as himself.
  • Megatron infuses himself with Dark Energon by stepping into the reactor and being engulfed by the stuff.
  • Megatron gives his Decepticons Dark Energon doses by throwing blasts of it at them.

Exodus vs. WFC
How soon the Decepticons used Dark Energon
  • The Decepticons use Dark Energon against the Autobots en masse prior to the activation of the Energon Bridge.
  • The Decepticons use only a little Dark Energon against the Autobots prior to activating the Energon Bridge. Once it is activated, then they start using it en masse.

Exodus vs. WFC
The lasting effects of Dark Energon
  • The power of Dark Energon lasted for exceedingly brief periods of time.
  • Once infused with it, the lasting power of Dark Energon seemed limitless.

Exodus vs. WFC
Who told Megatron about the Energon Bridge
  • It was Soundwave who informed Megatron about the Geosynchronous Energon Bridge.
  • Starscream tells Megatron of the Energon Bridge and that he knows how to reconnect it.

Exodus vs. WFC
Who Starscream took with him to the Energon Bridge
  • Starscream has a whole team of Seekers (including Nacelle, Hotlink, and Bitstream) with him searching for the Energon Bridge.
  • Starscream took only Thundercracker and Skywarp with him to go to the Energon Bridge.

Exodus vs. WFC
The mission to reactivate the Energon Bridge
  • The Geosynchronous Energon Bridge was located deep underground in a shaft beneath the ruins of Crystal City.
  • Just a few Autobot drones were the most defenses Starscream’s group encountered.
  • The task of locating the Geosynchronous Energon Bridge was a simple, quick, and mostly uneventful one.
  • The Energon Bridge was hidden deep underground via an extensive series of tunnels and layers, with no such ruined city seen as any sort of landmark.
  • Autobot troops, defenses, and a Zeta Prime hologram were set up to stop Starscream’s group.
  • An Autobot ship generated a shield to block the Cons’ path. It also engaged them in battle.
  • Starscream’s group has a run in with some Autobot cloakers.
  • Starscream reactivates the Energon Bridge’s main control panels, but the side terminals need to be supplied with their energon power cells.
  • The Autobots had booby-trapped the room with the power cells.
  • Starscream’s group had to do battle against Cybertron’s Sentinel.

Exodus vs. WFC
What lay beneath the Energon Bridge
  • Below the Energon Bridge was an abyss so deep and dark that none could see its end.
  • Beneath the Energon Bridge was the visible floor of the room, not a pit.

Exodus vs. WFC
The Energon Bridge’s lens
  • There was some sort of hole in the center of the Geosynchronous Energon Bridge’s lens.
  • The Plasma Energy Chamber was inserted into the hole of the Geosynchronous Energon Bridge’s lens.
  • There appeared to be no hole in the lens of the Energon Bridge, and thus nothing was inserted into it.

Exodus vs. WFC
In order to produce enough Dark Energon…
  • The Plasma Energy Chamber was required to produce the necessary amount Energon (to be converted into Dark Energon) that Megatron would need for his plans.
  • Only the reactivation of the Energon Bridge was necessary to produce enough Dark Energon for Megatron’s plans. No Plasma Energy Chamber was involved in the game’s events

Exodus vs. WFC
What Megatron needed to go get for his plans to work
  • The two Code Keys of Justice and Power would be needed to control the Plasma Energy Chamber.
  • The Omega Key was needed to open the Omega Gate, which led to the Core.

Exodus vs. WFC
The mission to Iacon
  • Megatron orders an infiltration of Iacon to retrieve the two Code Keys.
  • Starscream was sent underground to search for the Code Key of Power.
  • Megatron wanted to keep Iacon intact for as long as possible so he could use it as his new capital.
  • The Code Key of Power was in a secured safe complex under the High Council Tower.
  • Megatron entered Iacon from a collapsed viaduct.
  • Megatron’s team consisted of his most trusted and loyal followers (including Catalycon) who had been with him for the longest time since the beginning of his campaign.
  • The mission to infiltrate Iacon was a covert mission.
  • The Decepticons avoided engaging any Autobot units they saw.
  • The Decepticons moved through Iacon via a system of underground tunnels and shafts.
  • No large scale attacks or sieges were made by the Decepticons prior to encountering Omega Supreme.
  • Megatron ordered a full scale assault on Iacon to go after the Omega Key.
  • Starscream was sent ahead to meet Zeta Prime’s armies on the front line.
  • Megatron wanted Iacon taken if necessary to get the Omega Key.
  • The Omega Key was taken into the possession of Zeta Prime.
  • Megatron entered Iacon by flying to it in a ship.
  • Megatron’s team consists of himself, Soundwave, and Breakdown.
  • The attack on Iacon was a massive assault.
  • The Decepticons engaged a massive Autobot resistance in battle.
  • The Decepticons moved through Iacon by going all over it, both on the surface and underground.
  • The Decepticons tried to launch a Dark Energon bomber on the Vaults of Iacon, but it was shot down.
  • Once they took out the Autobots’ anti-aircraft guns, the Decepticons called for the Dark Energon bombers once again.
  • An Autobot Destroyer came to guard the damaged entrance to the Vaults.

Exodus vs. WFC
The fight against Sentinel Zeta Prime
  • Sentinel Prime met Megatron in the tunnel, speaking to him for the first time.
  • Sentinel Prime fought Megatron to prevent him from accessing the entrance to the interior of Teletraan-1 and the Plasma Energy Chamber within it.
  • Sentinel Prime personally fought Megatron in close quarters combat.
  • Megatron cut off Sentinel Prime’s arm, and pretty much hacked him to a shameful husk.
  • Zeta Prime constantly spoke to Megatron via holograms, warning him of the dangers of Dark Energon, as Megatron made his way through Iacon.
  • Zeta Prime confronted Megatron in person inside the Iacon Vaults.
  • Zeta Prime fought Megatron, Soundwave, and Breakdown using a hologram system chamber that could produce small armies of energon clones to fight the Decepticons.
  • Zeta Prime was beaten by having the Decepticons destroy his machine’s power core.

Exodus vs. the Unicron Trilogy vs. the Movies
What created Cybertron
  • The Plasma Energy Chamber is said to be the power source for the material of Cybertron itself.
  • Since Cybertron is the body of Primus himself, Primus (or his Creator, the One), would be the one credited with creating Cybertron.
  • The AllSpark is credited with no only creating Cybertronian life, but Planet Cybertron itself.

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Beast Era
The Plasma Energy Chamber’s location
  • The Plasma Energy Chamber was locked away inside Teletraan-1, at the base of the High Council Tower in Iacon.
  • The Plasma Energy Chamber was located far underground in an area “twelve levels below Generator C."
  • The Plasma Energy Chamber was in a cavern not too far from the surface accessed via an elevator.

Exodus vs. WFC
Sentinel Zeta Prime’s belt
  • Sentinel Prime wears a belt marked with the sigil of Vector Prime.
  • Zeta Prime wears no such belt, while his Autobot insignia is instead placed on his chest.

Exodus vs. WFC
After the battle with Sentinel Zeta Prime
  • The Code Key of Justice was inside Sentinel Prime’s body.
  • The Code Key of Power was found molded into the base of Iacon’s Hall of Justice.
  • Starscream’s team rendezvoused with Megatron’s team at their location.
  • Starscream plotted to take the two Code Keys and overthrow Megatron.
  • Starscream and Megatron fight for the possession of the Code Keys.
  • Megatron used the Code Keys to open the entrance to the Plasma Energy Chamber.
  • Teletraan-1 reactivated Omega Supreme in response to the Plasma Energy Chamber’s endangerment.
  • There was only one Omega Key.
  • The Omega Key Megatron took from Zeta Prime’s hand was a fake, being merely a device that activates the real Key.
  • Starscream never met back with Megatron and never fought him for the power of leadership.
  • Omega Supreme activated with the mission to destroy Megatron.

Exodus vs. WFC
Starscream’s opinion on Dark Energon
  • Starscream mistrusted Dark Energon, resolving to not use it ever again.
  • Starscream show no signs of having such doubts of Dark Energon once he had experienced the stuff.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. the Movies
Blackout
  • Blackout was among the members of Megatron’s group.
  • Blackout had had previous experience in the gladiator pits of Kaon.
  • Blackout hailed from the Badlands
  • Blackout was charged with bringing Sentinel’s remains back to Kaon.
  • Blackout was not present in the game at all
  • Blackout was once a member of the Cybertron Defense Force

Exodus vs. G1 vs. the Beast Era
The appearance of the Plasma Energy Chamber
  • The Plasma Energy Chamber was a small radiant cylinder.
  • The Plasma Energy Chamber was small enough to be held in Megatron’s hands.
  • The Plasma Energy Chamber was an enormous silver dome-like construct.
  • The Plasma Energy Chamber was a large, mostly blue, almost spherical structure.

Exodus vs. WFC
The state of the High Council Tower
  • The High Council Tower collapsed in on itself.
  • The High Council tower was never destroyed, as it was seen perfectly intact later in the game.

Exodus vs. Animated
Omega Supreme
  • Omega Supreme had not been seen for as long as anyone could remember.
  • Omega Supreme was first created during the latter days of the Great War, and was last seen at the war’s end; a war that many (including Ratchet and Megatron) would never forget.

Exodus vs. the Unicron Trilogy
How much of Cybertron had been conquered
  • The Decepticons had conquered 85% of Cybertron.
  • The war had split the planet into two even Autobot and Decepticon halves, with neither side gaining the upper hand.

Exodus vs. WFC
The first encounter with Omega Supreme
  • Omega Supreme took the Plasma Energy Chamber into himself and blasted off towards space to get the Chamber to a safe location.
  • Starscream and his Seekers pursued Omega Supreme.
  • Omega Supreme does not engage Megatron at all at this point.
  • Omega Supreme took evasive action against Starscream and his Seeker pursuers.
  • Omega Supreme does try to fight back against the Seekers, but does so very poorly.
  • Some of the Seekers were shot down, but they never ceased their pursuit.
  • The Seekers shot down Omega Supreme.
  • No Aerialbots were involved in this fight.
  • Optimus and his team had been watching the whole event of Omega Supreme’s reactivation, launch, air battle, and fall.
  • Omega Supreme went after Megatron, trying to destroy him.
  • Megatron flies in a ship seeking out Omega Supreme.
  • Omega Supreme engages Megatron’s ship, destroying it.
  • The Decepticons race all over Iacon to avoid Omega Supreme’s attack.
  • Megatron called for air support from Starscream, which Omega responded to by pursuing the flying Decepticons.
  • Starscream wanted to retreat from fighting against the attacking Omega Supreme.
  • The Decepticons man Autobot turret guns to shoot down Omega Supreme.
  • Omega Supreme deployed Aerialbots during the fight.
  • None of Optimus’ team was present at all during these events.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1 vs. the Unicron Trilogy vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Jetfire/Skyfire
  • Jetfire took part in the pre-Earth war for Cybertron.
  • Jetfire had defected from the Decepticon Seekers to the Autobots.
  • Jetfire stayed on Cybertron after the Ark’s launch.
  • Jetfire took part in the pre-Earth war for Cybertron.
  • Jetfire had not been a Decepticon at all during the war, having never joined them. He chose the Autobot side from the very beginning, calling Starscream a traitor when Starscream joined Megatron.
  • Skyfire had been a scientist with Starscream on Cybertron and had crash-landed on Earth years before the war on Cybertron even began, going into dormancy for millions of years, never participating in either faction of the war until his reawakening in 1984.
  • Jetfire took part in the pre-Earth war for Cybertron.
  • Jetfire was the second-in-command to the Autobots.
  • Jetfire was an ancient Seeker and Decepticon serving under the Seven Primes in the distant past.
  • Jetfire eventually went into dormancy on Earth long ago, never reawakening until 2009, but having switched sides right before.
  • Jetfire and his brother Jetstorm were twin Autobot youths who were experimented on during post-war times.
  • Both would have been too young to have participated in the war when it did, and were the first “normal” Autobots in history to be able of fly (not counting Swoop or the Omega Sentinels).

Exodus vs. WFC
The second encounter with Omega Supreme
  • Optimus and his team arrived at the impact site of Omega Supreme to see if they could help him.
  • Optimus, Ironhide, Jazz, Sideswipe, Prowl, and Bumblebee took part in the fight between Omega Supreme and the Decepticons.
  • The fight with Omega Supreme took place in a massively deep crater.
  • Omega Supreme destroys several Decepticon gladiators in the fight.
  • Omega fought with his own power.
  • Omega Supreme was defeated by being overwhelmed by Megatron and his gladiators.
  • None of Optimus’ team came to the impact site of Omega Supreme.
  • The only aid given to Omega Supreme came in the form of a few Aerialbots
  • The fight with Omega Supreme took place inside the building that Omega had crashed into.
  • Omega Supreme fights just Megatron, Soundwave, and Breakdown, killing none of them.
  • Omega proceeded to absorb energy from the planet’s Core.
  • Omega Supreme was defeated by trying to rejuvenate with batteries that had been corrupted by Dark Energon, having his exposed chest fired at, and then being directly infused with Dark Energon.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1
Breakdown
  • Breakdown (or any of the Stunticons) is not mentioned in the book’s events.
  • Breakdown is with Megatron’s team, alive and well on the pre-Earth war for Cybertron.
  • Breakdown was created in 1985 from a stolen Lamborghini, given life by Vector Sigma.

Exodus vs. WFC
How the Core was tainted
  • Megatron tainted the Core of Cybertron by corrupting the Plasma Energy Chamber, inserting it into the Energon Bridge, inverting the bridge’s flow of energon, and then feeding Dark Energon down into the Core itself.
  • Megatron tainted the Core by going directly to it and firing several Dark Energon corrupter beams at its shell structure.

Exodus vs. WFC
Omega Supreme’s fate
  • Megatron spares Omega Supreme, leaving him for the Autobots to retrieve and repair.
  • Ratchet had brought Omega Supreme back online, but he was still too damaged to fight.
  • Omega Supreme had been captured by the Decepticons, being tortured with Dark Energon.
  • Ratchet had to come to Omega Supreme’s location (once Omega was located much later) to try to repair him, while the Autobots were under heavy Decepticon gunfire.

Exodus vs. WFC
How Optimus learned of Sentinel Zeta Prime’s defeat
  • Megatron tells Optimus of the defeat of Sentinel Prime.
  • Bumblebee relayed the message to Optimus that Zeta Prime had fallen in battle.

Exodus vs. WFC
Bumblebee’s message for Optimus
  • Bumblebee’s urgent news for Optimus was of Megatron’s act of infecting the Core.
  • Bumblebee came to the Hall of Records and reported his message to Prowl.
  • Bumblebee still had intense difficulty trying to speak.
  • Bumblebee’s urgent news was of Zeta Prime’s apparent “death”.
  • Bumblebee came into the battlegrounds of Iacon to tell this to Optimus himself.
  • Bumblebee could speak with no problems.

Exodus vs. WFC
What happened to Iacon after Omega’s defeat
  • Megatron leaves Iacon, not needing to conquer it.
  • Iacon had been taken by the Decepticons and was no longer safe for Autobots.
  • The Decepticons had full control over the communication grid.
  • Optimus, Ratchet, and Bumblebee fight back to reclaim Iacon.
  • The Autobots fight to reactivate Cybertron’s planetary guns.
  • After reactivating the guns, the Autobots had to reactivate the communication grid inside the Decagon.
  • Soundwave is still in Iacon.
  • Starscream confronted Optimus’ team at the Decagon.

Exodus vs. WFC
Megatron’s views on freedom and choice
  • All throughout the book, Megatron’s main goal was the achievement of freedom and choice for all of Cybertron (with him as their leader).
  • Megatron speaks of freedom and choice as burdens and plagues, and that his rule is the only guidance Cybertron needs.

Exodus vs. WFC
Sentinel Zeta Prime’s message
  • Optimus was looking for any traces of Sentinel Prime with Jazz down in the subsurface levels of Iacon when Sentinel Prime’s message was released.
  • Sentinel Prime’s message was played at the Hall of Records.
  • Sentinel Prime’s message apparently did not openly state where he was, as its origin had to be traced.
  • Apparently, Sentinel Prime’s message didn’t exactly indicate that it was from Sentinel Prime.
  • The Autobots had to figure out that Sentinel Prime was in Kaon.
  • The Grid analysis deduced that Sentinel Prime was being held in the Kaon Prison.
  • Zeta Prime’s message appeared as his head, stated who it was from, where he was located, and played at the Decagon (where Optimus was at the time).

Exodus vs. WFC
The mission to rescue Sentinel Zeta Prime
  • Optimus’s team gets into Kaon by merely driving there.
  • The team selected to infiltrate the Kaon Prison consisted of Optimus Prime, Jazz and Prowl, with a backup team consisting of Sideswipe, Bumblebee, and Jetfire on standby.
  • The gladiator arena pyramid was now used as the Kaon Prison.
  • The Autobots enter the Kaon Prison by taking out its one guard.
  • All the prisoners inside the prison (save for Sentinel Prime) were dead.
  • Sentinel Prime was chained to a pillar in the center of the arena.
  • The only retaliations the Autobots encounter come from one sentry and a couple of Guardians.
  • Optimus acknowledges that there was little-to-no resistance in the Kaon Prison.
  • Optimus came up with an elaborate plan to have himself and his team captured, so they could be brought into Kaon and the Kaon Prison Complex.
  • The team selected to infiltrate the Kaon Prison consisted of Optimus, Bumblebee, Sideswipe, and some extra generic troops.
  • The Kaon Prison was a genuine prison complex.
  • The Autobots entered the Kaon Prison Complex by being led in by their guard captors.
  • The Decepticons don’t seem to know who Optimus is.
  • Soundwave was in charge of the prison and ordered the captive Autobots to be brought to “Recycling”.
  • Air Raid swooped in and busted Optimus’s team free to explore the prison.
  • The Autobots encountered great retaliation from the Prison Complex personnel.
  • Megatron confronts Optimus in the Prison using a large head module set in one of the chambers of the prison.
  • Optimus’s team is captured for real a second time and locked up in a prison cell.
  • Soundwave and Rumble taunted Optimus’s team while they were locked up.
  • The Autobots broke out of their cell by busting through it wall.
  • All the Autobot prisoners locked up in cells were alive.
  • Among the prisoners locked up were Jazz and Arcee.
  • The Autobots had to free Air Raid, who had been captured earlier.
  • The Autobots initiated a jailbreak of every prisoner they can free.
  • Jazz and Arcee could be seen escorting the prisoners to safety. Air Raid helped out too.
  • Laserbeak could be seen perched in three different locations, spying on the Autobots.
  • Megatron refused to allow the Autobots to reach Zeta Prime.
  • Zeta Prime was kept in a maximum security bunker in the lower levels of the Kaon Prison Complex. He was hooked up to cables, being tortured by Soundwave.
  • The Autobots have a battle with Soundwave, Frenzy, Rumble, and Laserbeak for Zeta Prime’s freedom.

Exodus vs. WFC
The High Council
  • The High Council is the ruling body of Cybertron, who govern over it.
  • The High Council of Elders’ sole function of existence is to choose and elect the Primes.

Exodus vs. WFC
The remaining members of the High Council
  • Only three members of the High Council were still alive, and they were all Decepticons.
  • Ratbat was among the still-living council members (the other two being contrail and Drivetrain).
  • The High Council still exists even after the point when Zeta Prime is retrieved from Kaon, and its members are Autobot affiliated.
  • Ratbat is not present at all during the game’s events (nor were the other two).

Exodus vs. WFC
Who tells Optimus to go to the Core
  • Sentinel Prime tells Optimus to go to Core and do something about its infected state.
  • The High Council tells Optimus to go to the Core and do something about its infected state.

Exodus vs. WFC
The mission to the Core
  • Optimus took Bumblebee and Jetfire with him to go to the Core.
  • Omega Supreme played no role in this mission.
  • Optimus’ team entered the Well of All Sparks to head for the Core.
  • Megatron had believed that the sheer intensity of the Dark Energon lying between the Core and the Well’s rim would have been too much for any Autobot to get through in order to reach the Core.
  • The trip to the Core is a very uneventful one.
  • The floor collapses below the Autobots’ feet at one point due to it being weakened by Dark Energon.
  • The Plasma Energy Chamber had embedded itself inside the Core, and had sprouted Corruption Spikes holding it in place, preventing the core from being healed.
  • Optimus took Ironhide and Warpath to go with him to the Core.
  • The Autobots had to rescue Omega Supreme from the Decepticons before they could go to the Core, as only Omega could open the Omega Gate.
  • Optimus’ team entered the Omega Gate to head for the Core.
  • In addition to the threat of Dark Energon emanation, the Autobots face battalions of Decepticons set up to protect the Core from the Autobots.
  • The Autobots mount turrets set on the backs of some space slugs, riding through the inner depths of Cybertron to its Core.
  • A monstrous, corrupted slug obstructs the Autobots’ path and causes the floor to collapse.
  • The menace that attacked the Autobots before attached itself to the Core and fought the Autobots.

Exodus vs. WFC
How the Autobots purge the Core from its corruption
  • Bumblebee destroyed the Corruption Spikes and Optimus pulled out the Plasma Energy Chamber.
  • The Autobots defeated the corrupted slug.

Exodus vs. WFC
When the Core speaks to Optimus
  • The Core spoke in a voice only Optimus could hear.
  • The Core tells Optimus that the Autobots must leave Cybertron to give it time to heal.
  • The Core speaks in a voice audible to anyone.
  • Optimus himself resolves that the Autobots must leave Cybertron while the Core heals it.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1 vs. the Movies vs. Animated
How Optimus Prime receives the Matrix
  • Optimus Prime received the Matrix of Leadership from the Core.
  • Optimus Prime receives the Matrix of Leadership from the Core.
  • Optimus Prime received the Matrix of Leadership from Alpha Trion.
  • Sam Witwicky placed the Matrix of Leadership into Optimus Prime’s dead body, reactivating him… only for the Matrix to be immediately taken back by The Fallen and placed into the Star Harvester. Both the Matrix and the Harvester were eventually destroyed by Optimus.
  • Optimus used the Magnus Hammer to forge a new container for the AllSpark, called the Matrix, after the AllSpark was reconstituted on Earth in the 22nd Century.

Exodus vs. WFC
Dark Energon’s status towards the end
  • The production of Dark Energon had ceased once the Core was disinfected of it.
  • The Geosynchronous Energon Bridge had shut down.
  • The Geosynchronous Energon Bridge was apparently destroyed when it was shut down.
  • The Energon Bridge was still functional, feeding power and Dark Energon to the station.
  • The Energon Bridge only shut off once the plasma core blew much later on, during the Aerialbots’ attempt to disable the station.

Exodus vs. WFC
The beginning of the evacuation of Cybertron
  • Optimus and his crew take off in the Eight Track along with the evacuation fleet.
  • Optimus and his team monitor the evacuation fleet from Iacon.
  • The Eight Track is not in the game.

Exodus vs. WFC
Trypticon’s attack on the fleet of evacuees
  • The beams fired from Trypticon Station destroyed the Autobots’ ships by zapping them with Dark Energon, which then caused said ships to momentarily disintegrate.
  • Megatron contacts the Autobots to explain his attack, and then contacts them a second time to discuss their surrender.
  • The beams fired from Trypticon Station destroyed the Autobots’ ships by swiftly blowing them up.
  • Megatron gives only one announcement: his reasons for attacking the fleet. He makes no attempts to discuss any Autobot surrender.

Exodus vs. WFC
The plan to disable Trypticon Station
  • Optimus planned to fly the Eight Track up to a blind spot on Trypticon and, with a small team, disable the station.
  • Optimus lead a team of Ironhide, Jazz, Bumblebee, Prowl, and Sideswipe, and himself (with Jetfire on standby in the ship) onto Trypticon Station.
  • Silverbolt took Air Raid, Jetfire, and a few extra Aerialbots up to disable Trypticon Station’s main cannon.
  • The Aerialbots entered Trypticon by blasting through the main gun’s defenses and flying through some exposed exhaust vents.

Exodus vs. WFC
How Trypticon Station was disabled
  • Enemies (that weren’t Decepticons) spawned from out of the walls, and then merged with the structure of the corridor.
  • The Autobots are quick to realize that Trypticon is alive.
  • The Autobots encountered a swarm of Minicons, which the Autobots were able to destroy.
  • The Autobots shoot at Trypticon’s Spark chamber to stop him.
  • Trypticon began to fall towards Cybertron in its Station mode.
  • No skirmish occurred during Trypticon’s fall.
  • Actual Decepticon resistance is encountered on Trypticon by the Aerialbots.
  • The Autobots don’t realize that Trypticon is alive until he starts talking later on.
  • Megatron contacts Jetfire via a hologram, taunting him as more Decepticons attack.
  • The Aerialbots drain the coolant to the main gun, overload the plasma core, and target Trypticon’s conversion cog to disable him.
  • Trypticon reverts to his dino mode in space prior to his impact with Cybertron.
  • The Aerialbots and Trypticon engaged each other high over Cybertron.
  • The Aerialbots took out Trypticon’ jet packs, sending him plummeting to Cybertron in dino mode.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1 vs. the Movies vs. Animated
Trypticon’s existence
  • Trypticon was birthed during the pre-Earth war on Cybertron by Shockwave’s work.
  • Trypticon was birthed during the pre-Earth war on Cybertron.
  • Trypticon was not birthed until 2005, by the Constructicons on Earth.
  • Trypticon was the Decepticons’ capital city (not a robot)… until it was blown up.
  • Trypticon prison is a correctional facility and not indicated to be alive.

Exodus vs. WFC
After Trypticon crashes
  • Trypticon crashed onto Cybertron in its station mode. He first transformed into his dino mode only after his planetfall.
  • Optimus and his team were aboard the Eight Track when Trypticon stood up.
  • Springer and Ultra Magnus were with Optimus’s crew.
  • Jetfire, the Wreckers, and Omega Supreme were going to face Trypticon.
  • No battle between the Autobots and Trypticon was depicted in the book.
  • Trypticon turned into the Nemesis and began to pursue the fleeing Ark.
  • Trypticon impacted Cybertron in dino mode.
  • Optimus and most of his team were on Cybertron’s surface when Trypticon got up.
  • Neither Springer nor Ultra Magnus were involved in the console game’s events.
  • Optimus, Ironhide, and Bumblebee directly engage Trypticon in battle.
  • The Aerialbots tried to provide assistance to Prime, BB, and Ironhide.
  • Trypticon altered the playing field by bringing the battle down to a subterranean level.
  • Trypticon is ultimately defeated by Optimus and falls into a pool of energon below him.

Exodus vs. WFC vs. G1
Trypticon’s eyes
  • Violet light shown from Trypticon’s optics.
  • Yellow light shown from Trypticon’s optics.
  • Yellow light shown from Trypticon’s optics.

Exodus vs. WFC
The Ark’s status
  • The Ark was completed and ready to launch.
  • The Ark was still under construction at this point.

Exodus vs. G1
The Ark’s pilot
  • Sideswipe was made the Ark’s pilot.
  • Jazz was the Ark’s pilot.

Exodus vs. WFC
Where the Ark was built
  • The Ark was constructed inside the Well of All Sparks.
  • The Ark was being built in some open-air area that was presumably located in Iacon.

Exodus vs. G1
The Ark’s launching site
  • The Ark was launched from within the Well of All Sparks.
  • The Ark was launched from within the Autobots’ domed Iacon headquarters.

Exodus vs. G1
The Nemesis’ crew
  • Among the Nemesis’ crew were Starscream, Lugnut, and Soundwave.
  • Lugnut was not a member of the Nemesis’ crew

Exodus vs. G1
When Megatron told Shockwave to stay behind
  • Megatron was already onboard the Nemesis as it flew towards space when he told Shockwave (via the grid) to look after Cybertron for him while he was gone.
  • Shockwave was instructed to kill only the necessary amount of Autobots and enslave the rest, turning them away from their belief in the Autobot cause.
  • Megatron (in person) told Shockwave to stay behind on Cybertron well before the Nemesis had even launched.
  • Shockwave merely charged with looking after Cybertron. The specifics of what that entailed were not entirely spelled out.

Exodus vs. G1
As the Ark and the Nemesis flew away from Cybertron
  • The Ark was intentionally trying to escape from the pursuing the Nemesis.
  • The Ark and the Nemesis both passed through a Space Bridge.
  • Because the Space Bridge disintegrated, it tore open the fabric of space-time, causing the two ships to become separated.
  • The Autobots detected the AllSpark’s presence and went after it.
  • The part of space that they had come to was an unfamiliar spiral-arm galaxy where no Transformer had ever been before.
  • The Ark did not at first notice that the Nemesis was chasing it and was not entirely fleeing from it.
  • Neither ship passed through anything like a Space Bridge
  • The ships remained together and the crew of the Nemesis boarded the Ark to engage its crew in battle.
  • No AllSpark was detected or even involved in the events of the G1 cartoon.
  • If this spiral-arm galaxy is intended to be the Milky Way, then it has been visited before by Starscream and Skyfire long before the war ever even began.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby PrymeStriker » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:10 am

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Such a long list I couldn't read it all but Exodus is extremely different.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Shadowman » Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:19 am

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Such a long list I couldn't read it all but Exodus is extremely different.


Same here, actually. Good lord, man, how long did it take you to type all that up? And the coloring and list-making. Christ, you must have been here all night.

Also, as far as unaligned "neutral" characters go...the first mission in the Decepticon campaign in WfC features Starscream's neutral army, distinguished by their yellow lighting, as opposed to the Autobots' red lighting or the Decepticons purple lighting.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:28 am

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Shadowman wrote:Same here, actually. Good lord, man, how long did it take you to type all that up? And the coloring and list-making. Christ, you must have been here all night.
:lol:

Well, not exactly. I did it the old fashioned way by typing it all in MS Word (tags and all) and then copying/pasting it into here. As for how long it took me to accumulate all this info: MONTHS!

Shadowman wrote:Also, as far as unaligned "neutral" characters go...the first mission in the Decepticon campaign in WfC features Starscream's neutral army, distinguished by their yellow lighting, as opposed to the Autobots' red lighting or the Decepticons purple lighting.
Yeah, I know. But I was mostly trying to keep it to just "named" characters instead all the footsoldiers that show up. Still, those who served under Starscream and survived likely became Cons after Level 1.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:00 pm

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I actually read most of that, just fantastic.

Very well researched.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:08 pm

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You guys should have seen my reaction when it said that my post was too long (over 90000 characters, when the limit is 60000). :shock: :BOOM: :sad: :-B 8-} :KREMZEEK:
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Shadowman » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:18 pm

Motto: "May God have mercy on my enemies, because I sure as hell won't."
Sabrblade wrote:You guys should have seen my reaction when it said that my post was too long (over 90000 characters, when the limit is 60000). :shock: :BOOM: :sad: :-B 8-} :KREMZEEK:


Sweet Zombie Jesus. I didn't even know there was a cap like that. Imagine if you put all this effort into...I dunno, medical science. You'd cure every disease tomorrow.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:28 pm

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Shadowman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:You guys should have seen my reaction when it said that my post was too long (over 90000 characters, when the limit is 60000). :shock: :BOOM: :sad: :-B 8-} :KREMZEEK:


Sweet Zombie Jesus. I didn't even know there was a cap like that. Imagine if you put all this effort into...I dunno, medical science. You'd cure every disease tomorrow.
And to think that this was partially a follow up to your "WFC cannot be a prequel to G1" topic. Now, people can see the same for Exodus. As well as see how it's different from WFC and other series.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby 3.8TransAM » Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:29 pm

Here's what I always said without all the typing.

Transformers: Exodus or whatever its called.

Its a good read actually, just consider it stand alone and enjoy it for what it is nothing less and nothing more.

I liked it, it qualified as genuine crapper material.

I will get the new book as well, and like the first one, read it for what is and and accept it as such.

U researched a crazy amount of info there man, u need a break now :D
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Razama » Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:22 am

Very nice. i always wanted to do something like this but to lazy to with so much info.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:02 am

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If anyone here knows of someone who still thinks and that either Exodus or WFC is a prequel to G1, the movies, or anything other than TF: Prime, you may show them this list to enlighten them. ;)
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Rodimus the Prime » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:33 pm

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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:02 pm

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Rodimus the Prime wrote:W-O-W! :APPLAUSE:
Sabrblade...I'm stunned speechless buddy! This is amazing! I'm still going through it, but I wanted to say congrats!
You flatter me, sir. :SMUG:

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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:32 am

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Okay, this is impressive. :shock: A few minor nits here and there with my own interpretations of some of the canon-but still damned impressive. :APPLAUSE:
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:49 am

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:A few minor nits here and there with my own interpretations of some of the canon-but still damned impressive. :APPLAUSE:
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:56 am

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:A few minor nits here and there with my own interpretations of some of the canon-but still damned impressive. :APPLAUSE:
While doing this, I was mostly trying to ignore as many personal views and opinions of the canon and present everything as it's told at face value.


It's two things.

1. Hound doesn't know about energon cubes... just Hound. It's also the wording he uses. 'Some kind of cube'. It doesn;t suggest to me that the other Autobots don't know or don't use cubes themselves. As for the recharing chamber, it's simply more convenient for them it seems.

Add the visual evidence in War Dawn and energon cubes aren't an exclusively-Decepticon technology.

2. I never got the idea that all Autobts are nameless until named in Autobot Boot Camp in TF:A. I doubt every single Autobot went through it.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:15 pm

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:1. Hound doesn't know about energon cubes... just Hound. It's also the wording he uses. 'Some kind of cube'. It doesn;t suggest to me that the other Autobots don't know or don't use cubes themselves. As for the recharing chamber, it's simply more convenient for them it seems.
The "Traitor" episode implies that the Autobots don't use Energon Cubes. When Cliffjumper tells Prime and Ratchet that he saw Mirage carrying two Energon Cubes, Ratchet is completely baffled at where and how Mirage could have gotten Energon Cubes from. If the Autobots used them, it would have been simple to assume that Mirage got them from the Autobots' own supply, yet Ratchet is confused as to how Mirage could have acquired Energon Cubes at all. Not simply the fact that he has them, but that he was able to get them from somewhere period.

And why can't the Recharging Chambers be the Autobots' energy recharging source?

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Add the visual evidence in War Dawn and energon cubes aren't an exclusively-Decepticon technology.
The dialogue in that episode never once used the word "energon" to refer to that stack of energy. Only the word "energy" was used.

Plus, this isn't the only time that the animators used the look of Energon Cubes for something that wasn't Energon. The Combaticons' Personality Components, for example, were drawn as Energon Cubes when the script for "Starscream's Brigade" called for a different design for them (glowing green cubes with words of warning written on them, and then later colored ebony). Not to mention that, despite looking exactly like Energon Cubes in the episode "Starscream's Brigade", the "B.O.T." episode drew them looking significantly more detailed and gadget-like.

Plus, the opening narration of the first episode says that the planet had been drained of its "once rich resources of energy", not specifically energon. And the glowing orange conductors Wheeljack and Bumblebee steal are said to hold "energy", not "energon". Coupled with Hound's unfamiliarity with energon, we cannot say that Energon had been the sole source of energy used by the Transformers before coming to Earth in the G1 cartoon. If it had been, then it's really stretching to say that Hound never knew the name of the very stuff he had lived on for all of his life. :roll:

I've also just started reading the old Marvel G1 comics and this argument is supported there too since ten issues in and not once has the word "energon" ever been brought up by either side. Only the words "energy" and "fuel" have been mentioned (the latter much moreso than the former).

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:2. I never got the idea that all Autobts are nameless until named in Autobot Boot Camp in TF:A. I doubt every single Autobot went through it.
Eh, I just went with what the show and Almanacs gave us, with them saying that those who attended Autobot Boot Camp got their names there and acted like they hadn't been called much of anything else before. Both the sergeants and the cadets reacted like the cadets were nobodies until they got their names there.

Now it is entirely possible that the cadets went by some previous identifier prior to entering boot camp, but that notion wasn't really explored so I just took what we were given and had to work with it.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby TheDownshift » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:49 pm

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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Cyberstrike » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:01 pm

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The other is an ancient group of space-faring Transformers (including Jetfire) who served under the Dynasty of Primes.



Is that from the movie comics? Because IIRC in the film Jetfire states that he is (or was) a Decepticon working for the Fallen and he quits because he didn't like their negative attitudes or something like that.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Twitchythe3rd » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:07 pm

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Cyberstrike wrote:
The other is an ancient group of space-faring Transformers (including Jetfire) who served under the Dynasty of Primes.


IIRC in the film Jetfire states that he is (or was) a Decepticon working for the Fallen and he quits because he didn't like their negative attitudes or something like that.


The Comics established Jetfire as one of the ancient Seekers.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:07 pm

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Cyberstrike wrote:
The other is an ancient group of space-faring Transformers (including Jetfire) who served under the Dynasty of Primes.


IIRC in the film Jetfire states that he is (or was) a Decepticon working for the Fallen and he quits because he didn't like their negative attitudes or something like that.
And Jetfire was one of these Seekers who served under the Prime Dynasty. They were charged with seeking out stars to be used to recharge the AllSpark. Only after The Fallen went rogue did they become Decepticon-affiliated.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby T-Macksimus » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:22 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I actually read most of that, just fantastic.

Very well researched.



:lol: I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see that you were one of the few who, like me, made it through nearly all of that.

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That takes a devotion to detail and history that few folks possess the patience for. The truly scary part is that there is actually room to add more detail points to all of this. I would hope, for the sake of your own sanity, that you are not going to attempt to tackle any further detailing on this any time soon. What you have done is truly amazing. You deserve some kind of plaque or medal for this. We'll have to hit up some of our modders and customs guys to see what they can come up with for you.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:31 pm

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T-Macksimus wrote:The truly scary part is that there is actually room to add more detail points to all of this. I would hope, for the sake of your own sanity, that you are not going to attempt to tackle any further detailing on this any time soon.
Yep. For while I had considered adding info from the Marvel G1/G2 comics, the Dreamwave G1 comics, the IDW G1 comics, the Dreamwave Armada/Energon comics, the RiD cartoon, the Titan movie comics, the Japanese G1 cartoons, and other sources as well. But, I figured it would be best to stick with both the English side of the fiction and what I knew best, as I could have gotten false info from secondary sources.

Plus, things like the RiD cartoon didn't have as much necessary backstory material to be included in here. While I could have said something about how Optimus got the Matrix there or how Ultra Magnus and he were brothers, or how the Predacons were dominate enemry faction, the accumulated info from that series wouldn't add up to the competing number of info from other series.

T-Macksimus wrote:What you have done is truly amazing. You deserve some kind of plaque or medal for this. We'll have to hit up some of our modders and customs guys to see what they can come up with for you.
:oops:

Meeting some of ya'll at BotCon might be rewarding enough.
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Re: Exodus Vs.

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:43 pm

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Okay, lots of evidence on energy/energon. I concede, partly.



RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:2. I never got the idea that all Autobts are nameless until named in Autobot Boot Camp in TF:A. I doubt every single Autobot went through it.
Eh, I just went with what the show and Almanacs gave us, with them saying that those who attended Autobot Boot Camp got their names there and acted like they hadn't been called much of anything else before. Both the sergeants and the cadets reacted like the cadets were nobodies until they got their names there.

Now it is entirely possible that the cadets went by some previous identifier prior to entering boot camp, but that notion wasn't really explored so I just took what we were given and had to work with it.[/quote]
Of course they're nobodies when first arriving. That's what a boot camp does to the cadets-break them down and rebuild them into soldiers. I don't think Rosanna attended boot camp, and she's got a name. ;)
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