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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Zeedust » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:29 pm

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I really hope they retool it to replace the Autobot symbols with Predacon ones, but everything but the head looks the same. A shame, really... Some more significant retooling (like new Beast Mode arms with two fingers, some retooling of the chest, and new weapons) could have really made this thing pop as Megatron.

Oh, well... I'll probably pick it up just for being a Beast Wars homage in any case.
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Postby RAcast » Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:08 pm

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Postby Rated X » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:46 pm

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So how does the prototype end up on e-bay before the final version even exists ? Was the idea scrapped by Hasbro ? Anybody else notice the seller claims to have 2 available ?
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Postby Sabrblade » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:56 pm

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Rated X wrote:So how does the prototype end up on e-bay before the final version even exists ? Was the idea scrapped by Hasbro ? Anybody else notice the seller claims to have 2 available ?
Step 1. Prototype is made
Step 2. The prototype is used to cast the mold for the final version
Step 3. The newly-casted mold is used to make the final version
Step 4. The prototype gets stolen and put on eBay somewhere between steps 2 and 3

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Postby RAcast » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:57 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:So how does the prototype end up on e-bay before the final version even exists ? Was the idea scrapped by Hasbro ? Anybody else notice the seller claims to have 2 available ?
Step 1. Prototype is made
Step 2. The prototype is used to cast the mold for the final version
Step 3. The newly-casted mold is used to make the final version
Step 4. The prototype gets stolen and put on eBay somewhere between steps 2 and 3

:P

One would hope that it's not stolen, but that's sometimes the case. :lol:
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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby njb902 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:09 pm

I can't wait to get this, and while I hope it is in TM colors I will settle for the original colors.
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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Zeedust » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:53 pm

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Postby VioMeTriX » Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:16 pm

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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Duke of Luns » Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:19 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:I really hope they retool it to replace the Autobot symbols with Predacon ones, but everything but the head looks the same. A shame, really... Some more significant retooling (like new Beast Mode arms with two fingers, some retooling of the chest, and new weapons) could have really made this thing pop as Megatron.


Agreed. I wasn't too interested in the figure, considering I have FOC Grim and a TM Megatron, but I'm even less interested since the head is the only thing new.

Maybe I'm getting a little spoiled, but Hasbro's been putting out some really nice retools/remolds recently. For example, Blaster(even though I've yet to find Soundblaster) has just enough new parts(and a new gun) to make him unique, and I really like that figure. In conjunction, the data discs all have excellent remold/retools to make them feel unique, and when compared side by side I was surprised by how different they were.
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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Megatron Wolf » Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:23 pm

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easy pass, first off i dont think this mold works as a BW Megatron & 2nd the mold itself is extremly disappointing. It looks good in the box but then you take it out & you wish you didnt.
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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Zeedust » Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:33 pm

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Duke of Luns wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:I really hope they retool it to replace the Autobot symbols with Predacon ones, but everything but the head looks the same. A shame, really... Some more significant retooling (like new Beast Mode arms with two fingers, some retooling of the chest, and new weapons) could have really made this thing pop as Megatron.


Agreed. I wasn't too interested in the figure, considering I have FOC Grim and a TM Megatron, but I'm even less interested since the head is the only thing new.

Maybe I'm getting a little spoiled, but Hasbro's been putting out some really nice retools/remolds recently. For example, Blaster(even though I've yet to find Soundblaster) has just enough new parts(and a new gun) to make him unique, and I really like that figure. In conjunction, the data discs all have excellent remold/retools to make them feel unique, and when compared side by side I was surprised by how different they were.


Oh, I know! They've been retooling like they damn well mean it lately... Why did they have to drop the ball on this, of all possible figures?!
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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Henry921 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:55 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:Oh, I know! They've been retooling like they damn well mean it lately... Why did they have to drop the ball on this, of all possible figures?!


Well, I think it was an error to attempt to make a Beast Wars Megatron out of Grimlock. He's a T-Rex, so I understand the temptation, but they took a very bulky mold and made it into a Transformer explicitly designed to be a smaller and more energy efficient design. As a result, Megs' head looks good, but his body is so massive it doesn't look much like his cartoon self.

Think I'll stick with United deluxe Megs.
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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby RoyalSorceress » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:32 pm

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Please please please let this mean that they're going to make Generations Beast Wars figure now.

I only started collecting TF toys within the last year. Far to late to get any Beast Wars toys in stores, and online prices are WAY out of my league.
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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redeco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Mkall » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:40 am

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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redeco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Mykltron » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:07 am

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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:46 am

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Agreed. I wasn't too interested in the figure, considering I have FOC Grim and a TM Megatron, but I'm even less interested since the head is the only thing new.

Maybe I'm getting a little spoiled, but Hasbro's been putting out some really nice retools/remolds recently. For example, Blaster(even though I've yet to find Soundblaster) has just enough new parts(and a new gun) to make him unique, and I really like that figure. In conjunction, the data discs all have excellent remold/retools to make them feel unique, and when compared side by side I was surprised by how different they were.


Oh, I know! They've been retooling like they damn well mean it lately... Why did they have to drop the ball on this, of all possible figures?!


Just because we're seeing this now doesn't mean it'll ever get released right away. Nowadays most molds are outfitted with two planned heads, and more than likely different parts even, with one set used and the other discarded when the toy's constructed. Definitely worth asking at the Hasbro Q&A at Botcon:

"In Generations, we've noticed a trend in retools being no less than a few months apart. Similar to the process of molding two heads at the same time and using only one for a toy (what we called "pretooled heads"), are all parts designed and produced at the same time, or is there switching out of mold sets involved?"
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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redeco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Shelf Space » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:38 pm

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They're gonna need a little bit more than a not-even-smirking BW Megs head and a purple paint job for me to buy this mold again
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Postby TulioDude » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:42 pm

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These prototype images reawaked the urge in me to buy Beast Wars toys.
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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redeco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Mkall » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:58 pm

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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redeco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Dclone Soundwave » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:16 pm

This body doesn't work for BW Megatron. Also, the fangs are to far into his face. I wouldn't mind seeing this head for a future BotCon exclusive using the new Predaking's mold though.
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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redeco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Mindmaster » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:48 pm

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Dclone Soundwave wrote:This body doesn't work for BW Megatron.


It (kinda) works if he's going to be colored like this:

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Also, the fangs are to far into his face.


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Are you kidding me? The original CGI render/toy has the talons closer to his face than this figure.

I wouldn't mind seeing this head for a future BotCon exclusive using the new Predaking's mold though.


Except that Megatron's Transmetal II head is subtly different than his Transmetal I head.

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Re: Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redeco/Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

Postby Sodan-1 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:19 am

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Totally with you on that. (Apart from the BotCon exclusive bit.) ;)

Mindmaster wrote:Except that Megatron's Transmetal II head is subtly different than his Transmetal I head.

BAH!!!! Inconsequential. It'd be a distinctly Megatron head on a dragon's body. That'll do me very nicely.
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