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Customs charges do annoy the hell out of me, and ruin my day. That's why I now get stuff shipped to America and pick it up when I go there. Then pull a straight face and go through the 'nothing to declare' gates in the UK

Once I saw the email about these in my yahoo account i pre-ordered them on the spot! I really could care less if these are repaints with minor alterations of new weapons and head molds, these three are very awesome looking, love the color upgrade and i use to Ransack as a kid, but still have Venom in good shape and if FP comes out with Venom as their leader that will be awesome, but i have one question though, what about Ratbat? I thought he was in with this bunch? and also a leader as well before he was a slave to Soundwave in cassette form or am I out context here? anyway, just slap some Decepticons factions on them and their good to go.

Swindle01 wrote:It isnt illegal to tell the store to mark an item as gift considering you are paying them there wages AND your paying for the damn shipping.

You have the option to mark it as gift - hence why its not illegal - the problem you get with items marked as merchandise in the uk is that if i purchased Hegemon for example and paid tfsource $40 for postage then this happens - I pay 80+40 for the postage to have the item sent to the uk - item arrives in customsUK - because the idiots at TFsource cannot do a simple request this then happens - A letter comes for me from customsUK saying i have to pay them £40 YES 40! thats OVER $80 to just be given my parcel. The retards at customs UK seem to think $40 counts as £40 on postage and because its marked as merchandise they then charge me to just be given my parcel

Nonetheless, you're asking them to falsify a customs declaration form. That. Is. Illegal.

You wouldnt walk into a store and pay twice for an item or go to a mcdonalds drive-threw and then be told you have to pay extra for a guy to hand you the bag through your window

That's a false argument because whatever goods you're purchasing, you're keeping within the country. If I'm in the US, and I buy me some merchandise that isn't food, then I drive across the border to Canada, there's a pretty good chance they will ask me for customs charges. Welcome to the dealings of International Trade. That's the system whether you want to complain about it or not.

Besides, according to the UK Border Agency's site, you're eligible for duty on a gift package if it's over £40, so for this package you're screwed either way.

Is it easy to get around? Sure, and most people (including me) do it. However in the slim chance you get a stickler at the desk, they have every right to either charge you or refuse the package entry into your country. And there ain't nothing you can do about it. If you want to do something about it; might I suggest campaigning for a change in International Tariff laws? Perhaps writing your elected representative?

Also when the insecticons first came out i got all 3 of them for £25 each from a china seller (this was when they first came out so no there not the ko versions)

Congrats, you found a way to beat the system on those. But that isn't what the MSRP on the figure apparently were.

So again - you're asking them to falsify documents and you're PO'd that the figures are on par with what most of the fandom pays for FP stuff.

Barrage: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Barrage_%28Insecticon%29

Ransack: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ransack_%28G1%29

ChopShop: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Chop_Shop

Venom: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Venom_%28G1%29

Information about these particular Insecticons according to TFwiki.net to provide some background and history on these guys er robots.

Stockade wrote:Once I saw the email about these in my yahoo account i pre-ordered them on the spot! I really could care less if these are repaints with minor alterations of new weapons and head molds, these three are very awesome looking, love the color upgrade and i use to Ransack as a kid, but still have Venom in good shape and if FP comes out with Venom as their leader that will be awesome, but i have one question though, what about Ratbat? I thought he was in with this bunch? and also a leader as well before he was a slave to Soundwave in cassette form or am I out context here? anyway, just slap some Decepticons factions on them and their good to go.

Sounds like a page taken out of the Dreamwave Generation 1 continuity where Ratbat led a small subfaction called 'Ultracons'. The deluxe insecticons were part of that subfaction.

*edit*

Info should be in those links you have in your most recent post, actually.

Lame that this is another overhyped exclusive. I guess simply being an expensive 3rd party item isn't exclusive enough anymore.

Oh, well, I wasn't planning on getting these guys anyway. No love for the deluxe Insecticons.

if you think its fair to pay twice for an item you have already paid for then thats ok

im not gona get into an argument about it but simply just say this - relax dont worry about it

Um... Swindle01, bud? I don't think Mkall was trying to say that the crap you go through ordering internationally is fair... more or less that it's considered illegal by customs regulations...

You're arguing a law point with common sense and morals... there's no victory to be gained there, trust me.

NOS wrote:Um... Swindle01, bud? I don't think Mkall was trying to say that the crap you go through ordering internationally is fair... more or less that it's considered illegal by customs regulations...

You're arguing a law point with common sense and morals... there's no victory to be gained there, trust me.

Indeed, I just like correcting people when I see them using faulty logic or poor reasoning. I mean no ill to Swindle01 and recognize that he and I have very different views on what's "ok" in the world of Transformers collecting. If he wants to wait for a KO because he doesn't agree with the current offering, I'm not going to stop him or call him out on it. I just call out the reasoning behind his decision, knowing full well I will have very little chance in swaying his beliefs.

Back on topic: DELUXE INSECTICONS!!!! WOOO HOOO!!!

I really like the look of these guys and the gift set idea is great. Think I'll pass though, as they're not too different from the ones I have. The grasshopper one especially. Now, if the vehicular versions (warbugs?) look half as nice as this lot, I may be more tempted to get them.