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Tsutsukakushi wrote:

megatronus wrote: Also... please, stop with the CHUG already.

Never liked using the word before until I saw it being used a few days ago here. If you don't like it, Then i'll stop using it. I'll go back to typing Classics-Generations.

Please do. The word as a noun is often used as a slur for Native Americans due to the stereotype that they have more predilection towards alcoholism.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

megatronus wrote: Also... please, stop with the CHUG already.

Never liked using the word before until I saw it being used a few days ago here. If you don't like it, Then i'll stop using it. I'll go back to typing Classics-Generations.

LOL you can stick to Classics

At least in my head, Classics implies collection, CHUG (as you used it) implied scale, which as others have explained, is imprecise at best.

The Native American slur issue is just as good a reason to not use it (if not more so).

LER-02





Kuma Style .

Interesting if those are the mass production version plastic colors. Looks very similar to the colors Planet X are using.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Buying Five FP Dinobots at $102 each Equals $510. If I buy the FT MP Dinobots,I only need to buy Four as I already own Hastak MP Grimlock. Four FT MP Dinobots at $180 each equals $720. it's only a $210 difference in price.

Was willing to settle for the Cheaper CHUG FP or MF Dinobots if they were priced $70 to $80. Which would have equaled $ $350 for all Five.

Always thought the FT MP Dinobots were the most superior versions. As they look the most G-1, higher sculpt, superior materials and top notch engineering.

for me, These CHUG Dinobots looks as much like G-1 as the AOE Dinobots toys do.

that point is moot for those who dont want unofficial MP's (like myself). i get it, more bang for the buck. but if people are shopping for generations dinobots, theyre not just going to settle for something completely different because its a slightly better deal.

slag.... gotta say im not digging the dino mode.

shajaki wrote:
slag.... gotta say im not digging the dino mode.

looks like his "frill" is on backwards or something.

Why is the nose horn red? He looks like a clown. I'll be painting that....

warzon3 wrote:Why is the nose horn red? He looks like a clown. I'll be painting that....

It looks like a test shot. I doubt the horn will be red on the final version.

xyl360 wrote:

warzon3 wrote:Why is the nose horn red? He looks like a clown. I'll be painting that....

It looks like a test shot. I doubt the horn will be red on the final version.

since he was colored mostly right, i kinda lost sight of the fact its a prototype. so ill reserve judgement.

my plans of getting PX and FP may not come to fruition however. him in his chromey and "united" shiney glory is something to behold, but not for $200+ which is the current demanding price on ebay. and as has been stated already, what if they dont do all five chromey and shiney? what if they do and theyre as expensive and rare as this one. thats a minimum of 1000 bucks. even im not that crazy.

LER-03





LER-02

strange that slags dino toes are present in bot mode... and swoop is a bit thin for my liking, though i know hes not a tank like the other four.

but still, just protos and renders. ill wait till we get more info.

This is an awesome size comparison pic

shajaki wrote:strange that slags dino toes are present in bot mode...

I think that's borrowed from the FOC design.

Swoop's a bit oddly proportioned, but both LER-02 & LER-03 look great - better than LER-01 in my opinion. Planet X better release more images soon. I've gone from getting just PX, to both PX & FP, and now, it seems, to just FP...

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote: I take what reviewers say with a grain of salt. They usually deal with the online retailers, not the 3rd partys themselves. The only guy I trust on insider info is Azim from renderform.

3rd parties are giving video reviewers test shots, not import sites.

Peaugh and his buddies have built up a trusted youtube toy reviews reputation with the fandom.

Are you implying we should trust you instead of Peaugh and his buddies?
A big no thanks to that. I don't care how fast you get these toys or how many you have. I'll never take toy buying advice from a guy like yourself. who goes around this site starting trouble in every thread. With his negative recycled banter,Taunting, harassing others toy purchases. repeating the same annoying negative stuff 20+ times in each thread. cries, throws temper tantrums and has OCD fits of range when companies don't make stuff he wants. Some guess has mental problems.

You need to be nice, normal, respectful, don't start trouble, non harassing. to get fans to trust your toy opinion or video reviews. And quite blunt you don't have any of this. When nobody listens to your reviews, its the price you pay for enjoying acting negatively and starting trouble daily on a forum.

The retailers like bbts, tfsource, and robotkingdom, front 3rd parties the money they need to make production possible. Thats why we have preorders to gauge if a product is worth production. If they dont get the numbers they want, the project gets cancelled and no deal is made (hence BTS Nova Lord...ouch) With that being said, its the retailers who get the test shots and give them away free to their mouthpieces (the reviewers) to help increase sales through online promotion. Didnt you ever wonder why every big online reviewer always shouts out a retailer and almost never bashes a figure no matter how much it sucks ? ? Its all business. And biting the hands that feed you free figures is bad for business.

Its ironic how you say I should be nice and respectful after you just hurled a whole paragraph of insults at me. You are a moron. You dont have to trust me, I could care less. But when you listen to someones opinion who actually paid for the figure, youre more likely to get the honest truth. Keep on believing sales pitches from people who get stuff for free and get burnt. For somebody who is so concerned about spending "3rd party prices", I would think you would be more inclined to listen to somebody who takes one for the team without whining about the cost.

Seriously didn't realize these were so big until these photos . Money well spent on all six .



FansFormers .

one one hand, it looks like they scale nicely with MP Grimlock, so the dino modes will look fine with my Classics collection. On the other hand, they're definitely bigger than Voyager size, so probably be some of Fansproject's most expensive single figures. Still, Sludge/Columpio/Columbo is probably as large as they'll get (reckon Slag at least will be same size, just the mass will be differently distributed) and he's not too expensive...

dammit. I'm probably in. Especially if I can then choose either FOC Grim or MP Grim to display them with and then maybe get the FP Grimlock if it warrants it.

Would like Swoop's wings to be a little more square than they are right now though.

Suspect FP Sludge might be a scale bigger than Swoop, Slag and Snarl.

FP Sludge definately looks like a Ultra scaled toy in that comparisons pic with HasTak MP Grimlock.

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote: I take what reviewers say with a grain of salt. They usually deal with the online retailers, not the 3rd partys themselves. The only guy I trust on insider info is Azim from renderform.

3rd parties are giving video reviewers test shots, not import sites.

Peaugh and his buddies have built up a trusted youtube toy reviews reputation with the fandom.

Are you implying we should trust you instead of Peaugh and his buddies?
A big no thanks to that. I don't care how fast you get these toys or how many you have. I'll never take toy buying advice from a guy like yourself. who goes around this site starting trouble in every thread. With his negative recycled banter,Taunting, harassing others toy purchases. repeating the same annoying negative stuff 20+ times in each thread. cries, throws temper tantrums and has OCD fits of range when companies don't make stuff he wants. Some guess has mental problems.

You need to be nice, normal, respectful, don't start trouble, non harassing. to get fans to trust your toy opinion or video reviews. And quite blunt you don't have any of this. When nobody listens to your reviews, its the price you pay for enjoying acting negatively and starting trouble daily on a forum.

The retailers like bbts, tfsource, and robotkingdom, front 3rd parties the money they need to make production possible. Thats why we have preorders to gauge if a product is worth production. If they dont get the numbers they want, the project gets cancelled and no deal is made (hence BTS Nova Lord...ouch) With that being said, its the retailers who get the test shots and give them away free to their mouthpieces (the reviewers) to help increase sales through online promotion. Didnt you ever wonder why every big online reviewer always shouts out a retailer and almost never bashes a figure no matter how much it sucks ? ? Its all business. And biting the hands that feed you free figures is bad for business.

Its ironic how you say I should be nice and respectful after you just hurled a whole paragraph of insults at me. You are a moron. You dont have to trust me, I could care less. But when you listen to someones opinion who actually paid for the figure, youre more likely to get the honest truth. Keep on believing sales pitches from people who get stuff for free and get burnt. For somebody who is so concerned about spending "3rd party prices", I would think you would be more inclined to listen to somebody who takes one for the team without whining about the cost.

Bashing others, in this case youtube video reviewers. When you yourself have trust issues on this forum. Is not only wrong it's flat out hypocritical.

Like the rest of us regular TF fans. You don't know why BTS cancelled Nova Overlord. So posting your assumptions as fact is just you trying to start more trouble in threads.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote: I take what reviewers say with a grain of salt. They usually deal with the online retailers, not the 3rd partys themselves. The only guy I trust on insider info is Azim from renderform.

3rd parties are giving video reviewers test shots, not import sites.

Peaugh and his buddies have built up a trusted youtube toy reviews reputation with the fandom.

Are you implying we should trust you instead of Peaugh and his buddies?
A big no thanks to that. I don't care how fast you get these toys or how many you have. I'll never take toy buying advice from a guy like yourself. who goes around this site starting trouble in every thread. With his negative recycled banter,Taunting, harassing others toy purchases. repeating the same annoying negative stuff 20+ times in each thread. cries, throws temper tantrums and has OCD fits of range when companies don't make stuff he wants. Some guess has mental problems.

You need to be nice, normal, respectful, don't start trouble, non harassing. to get fans to trust your toy opinion or video reviews. And quite blunt you don't have any of this. When nobody listens to your reviews, its the price you pay for enjoying acting negatively and starting trouble daily on a forum.

The retailers like bbts, tfsource, and robotkingdom, front 3rd parties the money they need to make production possible. Thats why we have preorders to gauge if a product is worth production. If they dont get the numbers they want, the project gets cancelled and no deal is made (hence BTS Nova Lord...ouch) With that being said, its the retailers who get the test shots and give them away free to their mouthpieces (the reviewers) to help increase sales through online promotion. Didnt you ever wonder why every big online reviewer always shouts out a retailer and almost never bashes a figure no matter how much it sucks ? ? Its all business. And biting the hands that feed you free figures is bad for business.

Its ironic how you say I should be nice and respectful after you just hurled a whole paragraph of insults at me. You are a moron. You dont have to trust me, I could care less. But when you listen to someones opinion who actually paid for the figure, youre more likely to get the honest truth. Keep on believing sales pitches from people who get stuff for free and get burnt. For somebody who is so concerned about spending "3rd party prices", I would think you would be more inclined to listen to somebody who takes one for the team without whining about the cost.

Bashing others, in this case youtube video reviewers. When you yourself have trust issues on this forum. Is not only wrong it's flat out hypocritical.

Like the rest of us regular TF fans. You don't know why BTS cancelled Nova Overlord. So posting your assumptions as fact is just you trying to start more trouble in threads.

What is so hard for you to grasp ?

They get free figures in exchange for promoting them online via reviews. They're not your friends. They are trying to sell you something on behalf of the retailers.

When was the last time you have heard a well known reviewer say "this figure sucks, don't buy it" ??? It wont happen. The most you will hear them say is "I don't plan on keeping this for my personal collection". Go figure, they got it for free and they don't even want to keep it. They must really think it sucks. But will they say it on a review ? Hell no ! That will be the last free figure they ever get.

On BTS Nova Lord, why do you think BBTS and others kept the pre-orders up so long even with no updates ? They were hoping more people would commit with a pre-order. Unfortunately for you, it didn't happen. No potential profit means no production. Mech Ideas seems to be in the business of buying the rights to cancelled figures like Gauntlett/Piston and the TF Animated Mario/Luigi bots. Maybe if you wish upon a star they will buy the Nova Lord mold and release it in small quantities.

Girls, girls, you're both pretty!


Can we get back to actually discussing toy dinosaur robots now?

Midnight_Fox wrote:Girls, girls, you're both pretty!


Can we get back to actually discussing toy dinosaur robots now?

Im gonna let that one slide...

But on topic Im very interested to see how the mass retail version will look considering nobody has seen it's colors in person. I wasn't too impressed with the slag prototype colors. They look ok but not shiny enough. I wouldn't go as far as to buy the exclusive version. Theres no promise all 5 of them will get the shiny treatment. The exclusive versions could very well end up getting the KO treatment once the regular version is released.

Rated X wrote:

Midnight_Fox wrote:Girls, girls, you're both pretty!


Can we get back to actually discussing toy dinosaur robots now?

Im gonna let that one slide...

But on topic Im very interested to see how the mass retail version will look considering nobody has seen it's colors in person. I wasn't too impressed with the slag prototype colors. They look ok but not shiny enough. I wouldn't go as far as to buy the exclusive version. Theres no promise all 5 of them will get the shiny treatment. The exclusive versions could very well end up getting the KO treatment once the regular version is released.

To be fair, there are at least a dozen of the TFcon Sludge on eBay right now. I think once the initial rush is over, the price on that exclusive will level out.

Personally, I don't need the chromed out version - too much opportunity for me to ruin it. I'm fine with a burnished metallic gold. But as you say, we don't know what the retail version will be yet, so.

I'm gonna guess the colors on Sludge here will be for the retail release .Even though he has chrome on his back the other colors look flat..or it could just be the lighting ?

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote: I take what reviewers say with a grain of salt. They usually deal with the online retailers, not the 3rd partys themselves. The only guy I trust on insider info is Azim from renderform.

3rd parties are giving video reviewers test shots, not import sites.

Peaugh and his buddies have built up a trusted youtube toy reviews reputation with the fandom.

Are you implying we should trust you instead of Peaugh and his buddies?
A big no thanks to that. I don't care how fast you get these toys or how many you have. I'll never take toy buying advice from a guy like yourself. who goes around this site starting trouble in every thread. With his negative recycled banter,Taunting, harassing others toy purchases. repeating the same annoying negative stuff 20+ times in each thread. cries, throws temper tantrums and has OCD fits of range when companies don't make stuff he wants. Some guess has mental problems.

You need to be nice, normal, respectful, don't start trouble, non harassing. to get fans to trust your toy opinion or video reviews. And quite blunt you don't have any of this. When nobody listens to your reviews, its the price you pay for enjoying acting negatively and starting trouble daily on a forum.

The retailers like bbts, tfsource, and robotkingdom, front 3rd parties the money they need to make production possible. Thats why we have preorders to gauge if a product is worth production. If they dont get the numbers they want, the project gets cancelled and no deal is made (hence BTS Nova Lord...ouch) With that being said, its the retailers who get the test shots and give them away free to their mouthpieces (the reviewers) to help increase sales through online promotion. Didnt you ever wonder why every big online reviewer always shouts out a retailer and almost never bashes a figure no matter how much it sucks ? ? Its all business. And biting the hands that feed you free figures is bad for business.

Its ironic how you say I should be nice and respectful after you just hurled a whole paragraph of insults at me. You are a moron. You dont have to trust me, I could care less. But when you listen to someones opinion who actually paid for the figure, youre more likely to get the honest truth. Keep on believing sales pitches from people who get stuff for free and get burnt. For somebody who is so concerned about spending "3rd party prices", I would think you would be more inclined to listen to somebody who takes one for the team without whining about the cost.

Bashing others, in this case youtube video reviewers. When you yourself have trust issues on this forum. Is not only wrong it's flat out hypocritical.

Like the rest of us regular TF fans. You don't know why BTS cancelled Nova Overlord. So posting your assumptions as fact is just you trying to start more trouble in threads.

What is so hard for you to grasp ?

They get free figures in exchange for promoting them online via reviews. They're not your friends. They are trying to sell you something on behalf of the retailers.

When was the last time you have heard a well known reviewer say "this figure sucks, don't buy it" ??? It wont happen. The most you will hear them say is "I don't plan on keeping this for my personal collection". Go figure, they got it for free and they don't even want to keep it. They must really think it sucks. But will they say it on a review ? Hell no ! That will be the last free figure they ever get.

On BTS Nova Lord, why do you think BBTS and others kept the pre-orders up so long even with no updates ? They were hoping more people would commit with a pre-order. Unfortunately for you, it didn't happen. No potential profit means no production. Mech Ideas seems to be in the business of buying the rights to cancelled figures like Gauntlett/Piston and the TF Animated Mario/Luigi bots. Maybe if you wish upon a star they will buy the Nova Lord mold and release it in small quantities.

Hey! can you guys put each other on the ignore list so we don't have to hear this over and over again?
Thanks

I thought long and hard about getting the chrome version the other day. I like it. A LOT. But they couldn't tell me what the plans was for the other five chromed Dinobots and I do not want it to be up in the air. All five need to match and I don't want to be stuck paying absurd prices on them because I bought the exclusive once.

The non chromed version looks really good. Even the flat gold is nice and vibrant.

Apparently the standard weapons will all combine too and they aren't going to be included on the chromed version.