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NOS wrote:It was stated before that the heads wouldn't be show accurate, but toy accurate.

That aside... the colors make me gush and I can only hope they turn out this good if not better when they are finally available.

Sounds like a job for Renderform. Maybe he can do a set. Im up for some better heads. The whole idea of the "square head" was to interlock them into the torso to become combiner limbs. Not to become a staple for all future figures. I think thats why the G1 cartoon didnt roll with those square heads in the first place. The Combaticons were the most similar to the toys, but even they were changed up enough not to look stupid.

Rated X wrote:

NOS wrote:It was stated before that the heads wouldn't be show accurate, but toy accurate.

That aside... the colors make me gush and I can only hope they turn out this good if not better when they are finally available.

Sounds like a job for Renderform. Maybe he can do a set. Im up for some better heads. The whole idea of the "square head" was to interlock them into the torso to become combiner limbs. Not to become a staple for all future figures. I think thats why the G1 cartoon didnt roll with those square heads in the first place. The Combaticons were the most similar to the toys, but even they were changed up enough not to look stupid.

Most transformers in the show had square-ish heads remember. Also, in terms of what might 'look stupid' I have to say the handlebar heads on Wildrider and Dragstrip were pretty ridiculous to say the least, but if that's your preference...

I'll be happy either way, though I do kinda hope Dead End will have a faceplate/visor. Of all the Stunticons in the show his was the only one I felt was an improvement over the toy versions.

Rated X wrote:My bet is that that is Wildrider. Dead End has a face plate. But if it is Wildrider, they should have put the two antenna that stick out of the sides of his head. Either way, you gotta feel sorry for those who wasted $500 on a Henkei Wildrider. LOL I see it dropping down to $200 or less on e-bay.

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its the main reason i stay away from any figure that is an update of a combiner team member. hence no silverbolt,wildrider,or the upcoming breakdown although official it doesnt help much if they dont combine IMO

These are the exact reason why I'm holding off on TFC's Uranus and considering selling Hercules to help fund Green Giant.

Yeah, TFC would have a lot better luck I think if they kept things to the scale & price of what MT & FP are doing... not to mention not going after the same combiners at the same time, or doing ones that have already been done, like Sup... it really just forces people to draw lines. All 3 of these companies could co-exist in harmony if they weren't wasting their efforts trying to out-do each other.

Mekatron wrote:Yeah, TFC would have a lot better luck I think if they kept things to the scale & price of what MT & FP are doing... not to mention not going after the same combiners at the same time, or doing ones that have already been done, like Sup... it really just forces people to draw lines. All 3 of these companies could co-exist in harmony if they weren't wasting their efforts trying to out-do each other.

I quite agree. The Walmart Exclusive Energon Repaint Constructicons didn't do it for me, so Herc fit the "Classics" bill nicely (though if my wife ever caught me spending the money on all 6 figs at once....ouch!) FP's Superion and Bruticus are the gold standard right now. I'm looking for combiners that haven't had classics treatment yet, though TFC's Superion is looking sexy, so far. (It will still bug me if they stay true to all the planes except for the Concord...) I'll hold my money for the Stunticons and Computron.

Then there's Hexatron.

Yeah, just not enough money to go around....

Monstructor aside, Menasor was always the smallest combiner so if these guys are deluxe/small deluxe size then I reckon they will look quite good scale wise next to Herc.

They look awesome.

Money says that FP will make both the variants..and i'll buy them both..because its FP..

Looking really good. I'll enjoy my Steelcore while I wait for these to be released.

........................... wait..........where did my pants go...............oh, FP just blew them off! I'm getting these, with any other variants. My 6th wallet doesn't even care at this point......

LiKwid wrote:Money says that FP will make both the variants..and i'll buy them both..because its FP..

what both variants now? G1 and G2?

So Breakdown and Wildrider are using the same mold?

Stormrider wrote:So Breakdown and Wildrider are using the same mold?

I doubt it. I think the digibashes on the first page are just showing both characters because we don't know which the one which isn't clearly Breakdown or Dragstrip is. I think Deadend and Wildrider will probably be different molds. The one on the right is clearly Breakdown-y, and I'd imagine Dragstrip will be fairly obvious, but the other two, in black and white, or grey, as the case may be, could be fairly difficult to distinguish. We'll see.

Does anyone notice that this digibash has got rub signs on the roof of the car modes

craggy wrote:

LiKwid wrote:Money says that FP will make both the variants..and i'll buy them both..because its FP..

what both variants now? G1 and G2?

I would not say no to a G2 Menasor. He can fist-bump Yellow MakeToys Devastator

craggy wrote:

Stormrider wrote:So Breakdown and Wildrider are using the same mold?

I doubt it. I think the digibashes on the first page are just showing both characters because we don't know which the one which isn't clearly Breakdown or Dragstrip is. I think Deadend and Wildrider will probably be different molds. The one on the right is clearly Breakdown-y, and I'd imagine Dragstrip will be fairly obvious, but the other two, in black and white, or grey, as the case may be, could be fairly difficult to distinguish. We'll see.

When images were first revealed during the con I remember reading that the bodies on these two would transform the same, just different alt modes. I believe it was also mentioned that the other two would be completely unique molds, but don't quote me on that.

NOS wrote:

craggy wrote:

Stormrider wrote:So Breakdown and Wildrider are using the same mold?

I doubt it. I think the digibashes on the first page are just showing both characters because we don't know which the one which isn't clearly Breakdown or Dragstrip is. I think Deadend and Wildrider will probably be different molds. The one on the right is clearly Breakdown-y, and I'd imagine Dragstrip will be fairly obvious, but the other two, in black and white, or grey, as the case may be, could be fairly difficult to distinguish. We'll see.

When images were first revealed during the con I remember reading that the bodies on these two would transform the same, just different alt modes. I believe it was also mentioned that the other two would be completely unique molds, but don't quote me on that.

I just did.

Yeah, that makes sense, they're not dissimilar, so some retooling on the chest maybe, and a different head, and alt mode, and of course a different paint job, easily doable. We've seen how good FP is at retools and repaints in everything from the Bruticus upgrades, the upcoming variations on the Insecticons and even just the many flavours of City Commander and Protector.

So all the design and fabrication work I did turning E Barricade into Motormaster last year was pointless? Ah, well. I'll be happier with these than I would have with that anyway.

So who's not getting the TFCC subscription service Breakdown because they're waiting on these? looking at BBTS's preorder it is probably more expensive.

mooncake623 wrote:So who's not getting the TFCC subscription service Breakdown because they're waiting on these? looking at BBTS's preorder it is probably more expensive.

Im not getting the SS through TFCC because the timing is bad for me. Im a Fansproject fanatic and this is a easy buy for me. Also don't let the BBTs pre order prices scare you. Those are going to be inflated because they are sub figures and not a store avilable figure yet.

Besides..a FP menasor?..sounds like a no brainer to me

After playing around with SteelCore, these guys are truly, a no-brainer.
Handle a Hasbro products, then a FP... brain dead if you prefer Hasbro.

Digibashes from Necio

How bout some more digibash while we wait

minor head sculpt changes

visor for breakdown



face plate and visor for if-deadend



face plate for if-wildrider



full on cartoon sculpt for wildrider



disclaimer : all digibashes are for entertainment purposes only

It look slike Breakdown and wildrider/Deadend use the same upper thigh. Although the alt molds are different, the transformations are the same, correct?

Oh man... those digibashes really make me pumped for these figures... please let the real colors turn out this nice! Really like that first head for Wildrider.

Stormrider wrote:It look slike Breakdown and wildrider/Deadend use the same upper thigh. Although the alt molds are different, the transformations are the same, correct?

Looks like they're sharing a crotch too...

Seeing the FP deluxe Insecticon retools makes me think we may get versions of these with cartoon accurate features like these digibashes. I could even see them consider putting reworked figures together in a boxed set like MT did with green Giant. Makes me wonder if I should hold off on getting these. Hmmm....