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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:13 am

VERY glad the madness of a female Dragstrip was just a rumor. This is to fill the Stunicon-sized hole in my Neo-G1 Seasons 1-movie collection, not to be some kind of Animated homage on top of it all.

I like all of these. Granted, they are very much "classic-ized", but they're recognisable as who they're supposed to be from G1. That's enough for me. I suppose I don't have the sort of connection tot hese guys others may have, so changes to them don't bug me so much.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Lord Raze » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:44 am

T-Bone's up for preorder at Kapow here - http://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/fansproject- ... u996kik9g6
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Banjo-Tron » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:15 am

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Lord Raze wrote:T-Bone's up for preorder at Kapow here - http://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/fansproject- ... u996kik9g6

Thanks dude, this is turning into a stupid month for me. 2 MMC bots, now these guys, but I can't complain. I think all 4 stunticons revealed so far are beautiful, and I can't wait to see Motormaster. I've always wondered what FansProject could do if they created an entire combiner from scratch, looks like we will find out soon enough.

Personally, I am expecting Motormaster to be at least twice the cost of the individual figures revealed so far, I guess he will be (at least) voyager sized and will have all the combiner kibble included. So us limeys will be spending £300 in this guy, £30 more than Giant cost me.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby zodconvoy » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:39 am

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Banjo-Tron wrote:Personally, I am expecting Motormaster to be at least twice the cost of the individual figures revealed so far, I guess he will be (at least) voyager sized and will have all the combiner kibble included. So us limeys will be spending £300 in this guy, £30 more than Giant cost me.


I'm hoping that the individual figure price is higher than FP's normal to spread the cost around so Motormaster will be cheaper. FP has yet to put out a single item with a MSRP over $100 since that was the ceiling Hasbro officially stated on third party items. I know every other company seems to be ignoring that but FP still hasn't crossed that line. And if they go for the Ongoing design (which is too awesome for them not to try) all the combiner kibble would be part of Motormaster anyway. On the other hand, they have the total design cost of a complete combiner to recoup so I might be wrong but I doubt it. I'm expecting it to be the standard Warbot price of $85-$90.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:39 am

I think it's *possible* that Motormaster might come without his trailer to keep costs for individual items low. After all, their City Commander armor is kind of the same idea - a trailer that splits apart - and that was $80 originally. If MM is as big as they say, it might push him over $100 if his traielr were included with him.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Banjo-Tron » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:57 am

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Gauntlet101010 wrote:I think it's *possible* that Motormaster might come without his trailer to keep costs for individual items low. After all, their City Commander armor is kind of the same idea - a trailer that splits apart - and that was $80 originally. If MM is as big as they say, it might push him over $100 if his traielr were included with him.

Hopefully if there is no trailer then they will provide a hitch so that shadow commander can be used instead...
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby _shaddow_ » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:19 pm

zodconvoy wrote:
Banjo-Tron wrote:Personally, I am expecting Motormaster to be at least twice the cost of the individual figures revealed so far, I guess he will be (at least) voyager sized and will have all the combiner kibble included. So us limeys will be spending £300 in this guy, £30 more than Giant cost me.


I'm hoping that the individual figure price is higher than FP's normal to spread the cost around so Motormaster will be cheaper. FP has yet to put out a single item with a MSRP over $100 since that was the ceiling Hasbro officially stated on third party items. I know every other company seems to be ignoring that but FP still hasn't crossed that line. And if they go for the Ongoing design (which is too awesome for them not to try) all the combiner kibble would be part of Motormaster anyway. On the other hand, they have the total design cost of a complete combiner to recoup so I might be wrong but I doubt it. I'm expecting it to be the standard Warbot price of $85-$90.


This is not actually true, to be exact. D.I.A. Commander was $120, so Fansproject already crossed the $100 line. Yes, it was an exclusive, but it still was a fansproject product over $100, though I'm with you on the $85-$90 price.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby zodconvoy » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:27 pm

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Gauntlet101010 wrote:I think it's *possible* that Motormaster might come without his trailer to keep costs for individual items low. After all, their City Commander armor is kind of the same idea - a trailer that splits apart - and that was $80 originally. If MM is as big as they say, it might push him over $100 if his traielr were included with him.


That's why I'm hoping for the Ongoing design. He didn't have a separate trailer, he was more like a delivery truck. The cab went all the way up his legs and they became Menasor's feet and the bulk of his body was the "trailer" section. Menasor's hands were just his forearms with larger hands switching out and his torso folded in to become Menasor's.

It all worked so well on the page, no extra parts or kibble, and it should work for the toy. Him not being a big rig anymore got away from the rather moronic idea of him being a rival for Prime on the road. Since it's an Energon-style combiner (to go with Superion & Bruticus), Motormaster should only be a deluxe-ish height like Silverbolt and Onslaught while having the extra bulk that he needs to have his combiner parts.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Autobot032 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:35 pm

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It's absolute fact that Motormaster has cab feet, does come with his trailer and all of the parts for Menasor are integrated. One price will cover all the necessary components to make Menasor whole. All you need is the limbs that are coming out over these next few months.

The price for Motormaster hasn't been released yet, perhaps not even set yet, but he will come with everything and will have his trailer.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Autobot Genocide » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:21 pm

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This is the good stuff we all dream of :BOWDOWN: , i like dead end and my first thoughts on dragstrip were dotm :-( but i dont care as a group theses are the **** :APPLAUSE: , At the most menasor should be around £280 - £300 :-? .
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Rated X » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:47 pm

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Dead End is way too Hasbroish. Looks just like Legends Wheelie. It does look like those shoulder things are on a ball joint and can be rotated downward as wrist armor. I really hope so.

Isnt anyone concerned that the car parts will become Menasors feet ? I Personally dont give a crap about parts intergration. I grew up with G1 so Im not a big fan of the concept. Every stinking part doesnt need to be used at all times. It creates stupid kibble, drives up the cost of designing the figure, and makes it more delicate and complicated to transform. Id rather have two identical feet like FP Bruticus than the hoods of tha car becoming two different weird stubby feet. That is so Hasbroish. It works for Devy but Im not liking that neo crap on the other combiners. That would ruin the combiner mode in my opinion.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Blurrz » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:38 pm

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Ruined 4 ever.

None of has even seen what the combiner is going to end up like. Your assumptions and rage are hilarious.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Stormrider » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:18 pm

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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby NTESHFT » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:37 pm

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Blurrz wrote:Ruined 4 ever.

None of has even seen what the combiner is going to end up like. Your assumptions and rage are hilarious.



I have faith that Fansproject will prevail with combined mode. I say this because everything I have bought from them I have loved, and I don't see why FP would turn around and ruin Menasor, a combiner, in my opinion, that has been greatly anticipated, despite the assumption of the negative people on the boards may say. Of course, there will always be a few, no matter what gets produced, who are jaded and always have to say "aw, that sucks". FP has a perfect batting average with me, and I doubt this endeavor will be any different. Then again, I'm not as picky as to say that I won't pick a certain figure up just because I didn't like the color of their head, but to each his (or her) own.....
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Rated X » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:27 pm

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Blurrz wrote:Ruined 4 ever.

None of has even seen what the combiner is going to end up like. Your assumptions and rage are hilarious.



I had seen a picture of Breakdown transformed into what appeared to be a foot and it looked horrible. Ill try to find it. Thats where my "assumptions" come from. My "rage" as you put it is nothing more than an opinion involving my stance on how people want about "intergrated parts". I personally prefer add on parts like the original G1 combiners. I have almost every part from my G1 childhood collection and dont loose stuff. I dont need them attached.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Blurrz » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:38 pm

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If all I saw was just a supermodel's one leg, I would think that something is wrong too..

Cars don't have the same leeway that construction vehicles and jets do. The fact that they are actually combiners, and the fact that they remain to be sleek cars AND still combine is fascinating.

FP is doing a good job and all you've seen is a fraction of the combiner. Give it some time.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby OmicronZero » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:14 pm

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Rated X wrote:I had seen a picture of Breakdown transformed into what appeared to be a foot and it looked horrible. Ill try to find it.

I believe this is what you're talking about:

daimchoc wrote:Image

At first glance that does look to be a rather mediocre leg, but then it's hard to really get a feel for it since we have no idea what Motormaster looks like or how they will connect. I'm also pretty sure I've seen a picture of Breakdown posed as an arm (seemingly suggesting they will be Scramble City-able), but there's no hand bits, so I would take both of these 'modes' with a grain of salt. It's entirely possible that the set will still use separate parts for things like the feet and hands. (Of course if someone has confirmation that that is indeed the official leg form, I may be worried too.)

As for parts vs integrated, I think if they can get more integrated, then great! Of course if they can't, or they have to compromise one or both of the figures other modes for it to work, well then it's really not worth it. In this case it would also make a lot of sense to have the combiner bits hidden away in-- or as part of-- Motormaster (think City Commander and Protector).

As to the, figures themselves they look great! I've already pre-ordered Car Crash, though I'll likely wait until I have him in hand to decide if I'll order the rest. I absolutely love the alt modes, I think they made great choices there. The bot modes for Car Crash and T-Bone look amazing as well, and really show how altering some of the detailing and the alt mode can make a figure really look like a another character. I have to admit, I'm a little mixed on not-Dead End's bot mode. I mean, it looks good, but in G1 all the cars save Drag Strip looked pretty similar in bot mode. Also that shoulder kibble is a little extreme, I wish there was a hinge or something to fold the door-bit down on the other side of the wheel.

Oh and I have no idea what so many are on about with not-Drag Strip. Aside from the kibble being different (obvious as he's a different car) and the leg's being flipped I think he looks pretty close to G1. Of course I was never that big a fan of him, so perhaps I'm just missing something.

Can't wait to see what they're doing with Motormaster. :CON:
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Rated X » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:58 pm

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Yeah thats the picture that got me scared. Looking closer at their teaser silloute of Menasor, it does appear that he has long feet similar to FP Bruticus that cant be part of the car mode from what we have seen (sigh of relief) However, Im not thrilled about the posibility of the car parts being Menasors shins rather than being the the back of his legs like BOTH the G1 toy and G1 cartoon. Thats way too neo for me. Kind of like the idea a Throttlebot combiner.

On intergrated parts: While sometimes it works and is kind of cool, it often sacrfices things that would look better to make them intergrate. The perfect example is small gestalt heads. Colossus, Giant, and MMC Predaking (render) all seem to suffer from small head syndrome. This is of course because of intergration of the gestalt heads into the alt and robot modes. Also you can do so much more with a trailer when you dont have to design it with parts that turn into hands and feet of the gestalt. The Colossus set was able to give energon/ROTF Onslaught a more G1 alt mode look. However it looked kind of weird because it was made out of obvious gestalt pieces. This is where I prefer G1 combiner figures over their neo upgrades. If I aint using the parts. I got a box for them. I dont need a Devy head looking like a tumor on Hooks foot (Maketoys Crane) And how about FOC Bruticus ? His hands and feet look horrible because the designers were so concerned with intergration. Imagine how much better FOC Bruticus would look if they had given him real hands and feet that didnt need to be "stored" somewhere on the figure ? I could go on and on, but Im sure by now you understand my point as to why parts intergration is not always all that its cracked up to be.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby daimchoc » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:28 pm

Just to show where the set is being based on...



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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby xyl360 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:33 pm

daimchoc wrote:Just to show where the set is being based on...



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I would say very loosely based on. Deadend looks nothing like that picture in bot mode, and there are some clear differences with all of the others as well (though not as much with Breakdown as the rest).
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby craggy » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:04 pm

headsortails wrote: there will always be a few, no matter what gets produced, who are jaded and always have to say "aw, that sucks".

I see you've familiarised yourself with Rated X's posts.


It's not that I disagree. The pics of the recent comic designs for the team are more in line with what I'd have liked to have seen for Dragstrip and especially Dead End, and hands and feet that may or may not integrate with Motormaster don't bother me one bit. BUT we haven't seen enough pics of these guys, nor of the final member or their combined form, for me to completely write-off the set.

All the vehicles will be nice from what we've seen. At least 2 of the robot modes are REALLY nice and I might be able to live with the others. Considering what FP did with Broadside, I'm not sure if they might even made Deadend and Dragstrip have reversible torsos. THIS IS PURELY SPECULATION ON MY PART but I think it'd be cool if there was that option. If not, well, screw it, we know what we're getting into before buying at least.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Rated X » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:08 pm

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Im not feeling that Motormaster at all, but Id rather have the Dead End in that picture than what we got. :-(
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby xyl360 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:16 pm

Rated X wrote:Im not feeling that Motormaster at all, but Id rather have the Dead End in that picture than what we got. :-(

Agreed. FP's Deadend doesn't really look bad to me in bot mode, but it doesn't really scream Deadend either. He should've looked much more like Breakdown and Wildrider in bot mode in the chest area and a lot less like TFP: Knockout or something with parts of his hood forming his chest.

Oh well, still not a bad effort, and at least his car mode looks awesome.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Agamemnon » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:29 pm

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Hey, it's Menasor. And not some weird double drillbit tank. It's the Stunticons!! I've been waiting a looooong time for even a decent one (PCC doesn't come close to counting!) It's going to be hard to screw this up in my mind, especially after what we've seen already.
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Re: FansProject not-Stunticons

Postby Rated X » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:33 pm

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headsortails wrote: there will always be a few, no matter what gets produced, who are jaded and always have to say "aw, that sucks".

I see you've familiarised yourself with Rated X's posts.


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Ive prasied so many figures on this forum. It just happens that all the figures I am critical of happen to be the ones you like. Not my fault we arent looking for the same things in a 3rd party figure. Read more of my posts before you judge me like that. Ive been on here long enough... ;)
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