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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:17 am

I'm saying that I don't like that color scheme and am disappointed if that's what they intend to do with Steelcore's recolor. Has nothing to do with it not homaging something else. >:oP

I suppose it'll have it's fans. I don't know what I was expecting, but ... not that.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby daimchoc » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:55 am

Who says that there's going to be a recolor? That image was most likely depicting how SteelCore came about.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby robotmel » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:58 am

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What the hell is this then...? :grin:
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EDIT: What I meant to say was, whats that trailer thing all about? Is that their new add-on? Have I just answered my own question? :lol: :lol:
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby NOS » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:07 am

I wonder how many times it'll need to be said until it finally sticks...

Steelcore admittedly has a similar color scheme as Energon Ultra Magnus that was a repaint of Armada Overload. However, Steelcore is not based on either character and was created as and intended to be an original character of FPC.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby daimchoc » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:10 am

robotmel wrote::D
What the hell is this then...? :grin:
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Just Steelcore with Energon UM as a trailer... Am I missing anything?
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby robotmel » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:14 am

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daimchoc wrote:
robotmel wrote::D
What the hell is this then...? :grin:
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Just Steelcore with Energon UM as a trailer... Am I missing anything?

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Ah, ok thank you! I have never seen that pic before then came across it via a Google search!
It looks nice though, both items look to rather fitting for each other? ;)
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:14 am

daimchoc wrote:Who says that there's going to be a recolor? That image was most likely depicting how SteelCore came about.

It's true that they're not nessasarily going to do that as a recolor ... but, then again, it's not like they haven't given previews of upcoming recolors in comics before.

You know, they are planning to make that red recolor of Defender, right?

I don't see why I'm not allowed to dislike it. Even if it's not what they're going to do, I don't see why I can't dislike their color scheme there.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby daimchoc » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:32 am

Gauntlet101010 wrote:
daimchoc wrote:Who says that there's going to be a recolor? That image was most likely depicting how SteelCore came about.

It's true that they're not nessasarily going to do that as a recolor ... but, then again, it's not like they haven't given previews of upcoming recolors in comics before.

You know, they are planning to make that red recolor of Defender, right?

I don't see why I'm not allowed to dislike it. Even if it's not what they're going to do, I don't see why I can't dislike their color scheme there.


Do I know about the Defender recolor? Only in the comics that they've shown... Would it be possible? Sure. Could they do a recolor of SteelCore? It was already mentioned before that FP doesn't have any plans on doing that. Could it be done in the future? Most likely if there's a big demand. As for the yellow-striped SC in the comic, if FP releases that, I think quite a number of people will buy into it (imho). Who says you can't dislike the color? It's called personal preference. :D
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:14 am

FP Core told me they plan on making the Defender recolor with a new head.

They're very friendly folk. I talked to them quite a bit that day.

Edit: I don't see why they wouldn't recolor Steelcore. They've done so with just about all their releases.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby daimchoc » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:34 am

Gauntlet101010 wrote:FP Core told me they plan on making the Defender recolor with a new head.

They're very friendly folk. I talked to them quite a bit that day.

Edit: I don't see why they wouldn't recolor Steelcore. They've done so with just about all their releases.



Good that you have that information. It would be nice to post a link or quote that conversation then. As far as the "recolor" for SteelCore, it's not impossible, but unless Venksta is just pulling our leg, he mentioned before that SC will not have one. Or I might just be reading it as no Overload version...
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:40 am

What link? I was there at TFcon and just asked them there. Myself. Personally. In person. And not over the internet.

But I was talking about Defender, not Steelcore, and used that as a point. Sorry if there was confusion. But it's not like these guys can't change their minds. If they're showing a recolor in the comic it seems to me that there'll be a recolor of SteelCore at some point and this is just their clever way of marketing it.

Edit: It's fine if you think I'm wrong though. Skepticism is always called for with unsubstanciated rumors which is what I'm doing, I guess. However, it seems to me that they always try to recolor their molds. So, even if they said they weren't going to this picture makes me think they're changing their minds.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby daimchoc » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:18 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:What link? I was there at TFcon and just asked them there. Myself. Personally. In person. And not over the internet.

But I was talking about Defender, not Steelcore, and used that as a point. Sorry if there was confusion. But it's not like these guys can't change their minds. If they're showing a recolor in the comic it seems to me that there'll be a recolor of SteelCore at some point and this is just their clever way of marketing it.

Edit: It's fine if you think I'm wrong though. Skepticism is always called for with unsubstanciated rumors which is what I'm doing, I guess. However, it seems to me that they always try to recolor their molds. So, even if they said they weren't going to this picture makes me think they're changing their minds.



I already said that I know about Defender getting a recolor based on the comic... As for SC, which is the thread we're in, and from other insiders, it won't have one - or not have an overload version. I also mentioned that it was not impossible for FP to change their mind about it, especially if there's a big demand. Your previous post didn't state that you spoke with FPC at the con, which is why had asked for a link/quote of that conversation so that everybody can see and be informed. Thanks for clarifying. I didn't even say that you're wrong.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:26 pm

Sorry, then. Didn't mean to be overly defensicve.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby dragons » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:50 pm

war bot steel core trailer and steel core is up for preoder right now


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For the longest time now, there have been rumors of an accessory for the WB-002 Steel Core. Some may have even seen the prototype in person. Well, this thing is in development and we'd love to show some shots of the concepts and details that will go into the final product.



These of course are just the concept 3d images and details may change in production. We'll have more news on that as it comes and prototype shots as we get them.



Further to this news, I know that the bigger thing on everyone's mind has been "when will we see another release of the WB-002 Steel Core himself?". Well, we have been confirming numbers with FP and it seems like we will have another limited run of these available to the FPC community. Pre-orders are estimated to go up this Sunday October, 28th, 2012.



We are still working out details with FP on pricing, so please check back with us often over this weekend for more details. We appreciate everyone's patience in bringing these back, this was a big risk for FP as a manufacturer and FPC has had to do a lot of convincing just to be able to cover the first run. Having a second round is phenomenal for us and a true sign of appreciation from FP for the success of the first release. Of course, FP has been also been gracious enough to work with us on the trailer for this piece to complete the vision of the designers. As you can imagine, we are so happy that things have worked out the way they have.



We really thank FP for believing in FPC and the patience of the fan base in this community as we grow. We'd also like to thank all of our volunteers and people behind the scenes that have worked out bugs in the site, helped to fill our resource fall backs in customer service and fulfilment and the visionaries that helped consult on the overall direction of this idea.



Not only did this help with the launch of this web site and it's features for nominal costs, it allowed us to have a ground breaking product like Steel Core come to fruition. From the features of the site being fully customized and launched in a matter of a few months, to the 3 month promo and market turn around release of Steel Core (the very first product teasers on FPC in May, 2012 to shipping out the last unit in August, 2012). This has been a testiment to the efforts of everyone involved. Thanks again!



Both FP and FPC look forward to the future as FPC starts to realize the potential of sustainability with this project and hope to one day not rely only on the good graces of our help, but to be able to afford our own resources and run our own budgets that will develop much more than just retail products - which is the biggest vision of this group. We realize that retail is a quick way to help develop our budgets for this community, but don't want our emphasis to be taken away from the bigger picture that founded this community.



Even after all of this whirlwind of releases, what actually really surprised us was the outstanding amount of emails from new and old fans that did not even know of such releases or about the purpose of the fan site itself. As we grow, we hope to have in place more experts on our team that will help spread the word about FPC and gain more reach to other regions and facets online and even in the real world through events and shows.



We will have more news on the other side of things like site features, stories and overall direction of the member factions soon. And of course photos and developments in the WB-002 Trailer.



Watch for details on the Steel Core re-release and a big thanks to all the fans again!



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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby daimchoc » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:47 am

dragons wrote:war bot steel core trailer and steel core is up for preoder right now



You're the same guy who posted this same stuff over at TFW... Why? This was announced in October 26th - SC. The trailer is still in development.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby Sodan-1 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:45 pm

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Apologies for heading off topic slightly, but I didn't think it was worth starting a new thread just to express how disappointed I am with FansProject Core. Apart from the odd info drop and product images all they've given us in over a year is one figure accompanied by a poorly executed service (in my opinion) and pre-orders for a second that isn't any cheaper than the standard online retailers. Not to mention there has been zero sign of the new fan driven universe they hyped when the site first opened, and we still have no idea what the crystals are or what they could be used for. You can't even get the new Crossfire 2.0 set or the deluxe Insecticons from them.

I wanted to support these guys but frankly the only reasons they've stood out from the normal retailers are all negatives. They themselves make it sound like it's a struggle to get FansProject to give them a run of figures.

But this is just my take on things.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby NOS » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:20 am

@Sodan-1

I don't know, man... are you sure your expectations aren't a little too high for a 3rd party that is supposed to be a separate group branching out? I mean, FansProject didn't bust into mass production of items right after their Cliffjumper upgrade..., even their City Commander took some doing to get up off the ground, but given how fresh and desired the City Commander add on was I think a lot of people overlooked their short comings at that time.

FansProjectCore is a branch representative coming out into their own rights with Steelcore being their first personal release. Seeing as how it doesn't directly tie into Transformers apart from being a transforming robot and having a spotlight on their comics, it's a completely different route into the fandom than FansProject. Yet, everyone has such grand expectations of what they should be and what they should be getting from them because FansProject has raised the bar as high as they have.

FPC is probably having a rough time keeping the pace of their predecessor and to make matters worse they're getting grief because they're tripping up a bit. However, if you compare FPC to igear I would say they aren't doing any better or worse especially considering the expectations that are being made of them...

All these negatives are mostly spawned from over-expectation in my opinion. In the end we were still given an amazing toy in Steelcore and that much can't be disputed. The trailer isn't what we expected, sure, but this is far from the finished product as well. Aside from not being able to process orders at the speed of light and being able to produce enough figures to meet the initial demand of the consumers, I fail to see what other negatives they have to warrant them such disappointment.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby mooncake623 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:13 am

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All these negatives are mostly spawned from over-expectation in my opinion. In the end we were still given an amazing toy in Steelcore and that much can't be disputed. The trailer isn't what we expected, sure, but this is far from the finished product as well. Aside from not being able to process orders at the speed of light and being able to produce enough figures to meet the initial demand of the consumers, I fail to see what other negatives they have to warrant them such disappointment.


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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby xyl360 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:52 pm

NOS wrote:@Sodan-1

I don't know, man... are you sure your expectations aren't a little too high for a 3rd party that is supposed to be a separate group branching out? I mean, FansProject didn't bust into mass production of items right after their Cliffjumper upgrade..., even their City Commander took some doing to get up off the ground, but given how fresh and desired the City Commander add on was I think a lot of people overlooked their short comings at that time.

FansProjectCore is a branch representative coming out into their own rights with Steelcore being their first personal release. Seeing as how it doesn't directly tie into Transformers apart from being a transforming robot and having a spotlight on their comics, it's a completely different route into the fandom than FansProject. Yet, everyone has such grand expectations of what they should be and what they should be getting from them because FansProject has raised the bar as high as they have.

FPC is probably having a rough time keeping the pace of their predecessor and to make matters worse they're getting grief because they're tripping up a bit. However, if you compare FPC to igear I would say they aren't doing any better or worse especially considering the expectations that are being made of them...

All these negatives are mostly spawned from over-expectation in my opinion. In the end we were still given an amazing toy in Steelcore and that much can't be disputed. The trailer isn't what we expected, sure, but this is far from the finished product as well. Aside from not being able to process orders at the speed of light and being able to produce enough figures to meet the initial demand of the consumers, I fail to see what other negatives they have to warrant them such disappointment.

You speak as though it were FPC producing the figures. It is not. It's FansProject, so from a third party store (that's all FPC is) I expect the same standard of quality etc. that I expect from FP because that's who makes and supplies the figures they sell.

I cannot speak to the issues etc. with FPC because I'm not a member, I'm just pointing out that trying to separate FP from FPC with regards to the FIGURES (i.e. the product they sell) is a falsehood. Any issues with their site, procedures or whatever else that has nothing to do with the products their selling is totally on them, not FP.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby craggy » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:18 pm

I won't buy a thing from them until they re-evaluate their policy of charging a flat-rate shipping price for 3 items, regardless of if you only want 1 or 2. $50 shipping is ridiculous for one item.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby NOS » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:08 am

@xyl360

To my knowledge, FPC is supported by FP, but I don't recall reading anything that said FP produced Steelcore nor have I seen anything on fansproject.com indicating that Steelcore belongs to them. Add to this the statement we received not too long ago from FPC concerning the uproar everyone was causing from what they claimed was 'their' product that they had to clear with FP in order to do a first and second release and I can only assume that Steelcore is an FPC product... not FP....

In any case, if your gripe is solely with the fact that FansProjectCore couldn't give you the kind of professional e-tailer experience you're used to that only further backs up my claim that your expectations and those of others are just too high based on what you've come to expect from FansProject and e-stores like BBTS and TFsource. It's not as if FPC has been doing this for years prior to the release and sale of Steelcore...
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby xyl360 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:59 am

NOS wrote:@xyl360

To my knowledge, FPC is supported by FP, but I don't recall reading anything that said FP produced Steelcore nor have I seen anything on fansproject.com indicating that Steelcore belongs to them. Add to this the statement we received not too long ago from FPC concerning the uproar everyone was causing from what they claimed was 'their' product that they had to clear with FP in order to do a first and second release and I can only assume that Steelcore is an FPC product... not FP....

Wait, so it's possible that FansProject did NOT produce Steelcore? I could have sworn that they did. If they did not, then why the affiliation with FP at all? In other words, why are they FansProject Core, why is their character/figure featured in FP's comics just like their own figures (Warbot Defender etc.) and what is their relationship with FP?

I could have sworn that I read in one of FPC's posts that they had to negotiate a second run of Steelcore from FP, which would mean that Steelcore is an FP creation/production. Am I not remembering correctly?

If Steelcore is not an FP figure, then this whole thing is very strange, to me at least.


In any case, if your gripe is solely with the fact that FansProjectCore couldn't give you the kind of professional e-tailer experience you're used to that only further backs up my claim that your expectations and those of others are just too high based on what you've come to expect from FansProject and e-stores like BBTS and TFsource. It's not as if FPC has been doing this for years prior to the release and sale of Steelcore...
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby NOS » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:17 am

I tried to dig up some info, but the most I could find is that FPC is an exclusive retailer of FP yet are not mandated by FP. Whether they have any hand that went into the design of Steelcore and its trailer I can't find, but I was under the assumption it was 'their' product they had to work with FansProject to be produced and released.

Perhaps it's something akin to the relationship between Hasbro and the Transformers Collectors Club? If that's the case then my mistake... however, there's still something to be said about the experience of a first attempt at actual e-tailering. It was their first attempt at processing a mass amount of orders for an already large and popular fanbase for FansProject.
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Re: FansProject Warbot 002 - Steelcore Heartmaster

Postby NOS » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:25 am

xyl360 wrote:I have no gripe with them or their website. I've never even visited. I was merely referring to the post I was quoting which talked about the complaints others have had about their website and services etc. I was just saying that that stuff is run by FPC, not FP, just as the TFCC is run by FunPub, not Hasbro. I was simply stating that if people have issues with FPC's website and service, then it's an issue with FPC, not FP so FP shouldn't take the blame for it.


Yeah, looks like we're on the same page now as of that post. Again, my mistake. I must have misread things somewhere along the line.

I'd like to get some clarification on whether FPC had any hand in the design and production of Steelcore and its trailer, but I still can't find anything other than that they had to negotiate with FP to make it happen. Whatever goes into these 'negotiations' I don't know.

Regardless, as far as their first time run at processing orders to meet the demands of a fanbase that follows FansProject, I think they did and are doing better than most would. That's just an opinion.
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