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kwanzaabot wrote:To use another Optimus as an example, take the Beast Wars 10th Anniversary Optimus Primal (or Jungle Planet Prime, I guess). Looks fine from the front (pretty awesome, even), but turn him around and there's a big honkin' gorilla head staring at you.

That face folds into the chest piece, so it ends up... staring... at his butt...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That face folds into the chest piece, so it ends up... staring... at his butt...

Exactly, and it only kinda sorta folds into the chest. It's almost like they just ran outta steam towards the end of the design process. Every other part of Primal looks great... and then there's the gorilla head/robot butt combo.

Noideaforaname wrote:I actually kinda want an extreme partsformer, like Omega Supreme; there's just something amusingly inhuman about a being that just naturally tears itself apart

I tend to give an automatic partsforming pass to robots which turn into a set of altmodes rather than a single altmode, as they pretty much have to break up in order for the resulting set of vehicles (or whatever) to not be stuck in a giant Katamari ball. Of course, if the individual altmodes are constructed from multiple robot pieces, it becomes partsforming again.

Thus, characters like Omega Supreme and Tidal Wave pass under the radar.

Personally, I just HATE partforming. Having separate fists for G1 bots or taking a vehicle appart to make the bot is very sad.

The only place I can forgive partforming is if it's a bot that get enhanced by a power armor using parts of a different vehicle to get it's super mode. Ironically, one such bot is GodGinrai and it's my favorite G1 ever. Strange.

I dont really like when the weapon is just an obvious altmode kibble that is repurposed.

I dont mind faux-parts at all. Instead, I find them really clever. So many good Optimus Prime toys would be less good without them.

Geminii wrote:Thus, characters like Omega Supreme and Tidal Wave pass under the radar.

Oh yeah, even if I hate partforming, multiple vehicles that combine into a single robot are forgivable. I LOVE Armada Tidalwave. I also love BWN Magmatron. However, if it's from a single entity, like Prime Gaia Unicron, that's just lame.

Well, I don't know. I sure as hell prefer faux parts over partforming, but honestly, I could care less what figure uses which; as long as it's branded with an Autobot/Decepticon/Maximal/Predacon logo, it qualifies as a Transformer to me.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

kwanzaabot wrote:To use another Optimus as an example, take the Beast Wars 10th Anniversary Optimus Primal (or Jungle Planet Prime, I guess). Looks fine from the front (pretty awesome, even), but turn him around and there's a big honkin' gorilla head staring at you.

That face folds into the chest piece, so it ends up... staring... at his butt...

More like "kissing".

I don't really have a problem with faux-parts, as long as the toy transforms. Parts-forming doesn't bother me too much, as long as it's saved foe accessories mostly. Shell-forming bothers me, and unless it's got a great robot mode or is a high profile character, i'll pass. Not that we see to much shell-forming these days.

RhA wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Neither, really. I grew up with G1, so whatever they entail is what I consider "Transformers." That's the line I compare every other line to. Sometimes the newer line exceeds g1, sometimes it doesn't. There have been certain improvements in design and engineering, but I think each line is unique in its own way. Be it partsformers, or faux parts (2 things I never really "got" nor do they bother me) I take it as part of whatever style that particular line is in. If I had to choose, I'd say faux parts stick out a bit more, but it's never been a big enough problem to keep me from enjoying a figure, whether transforming it or just displaying it. I'm a Transformers fan, and I take the figures as they come, even when sometimes I dislike some features.

This.

Agreed, I could not have said it any better..

Cyber Bishop wrote:

RhA wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Neither, really. I grew up with G1, so whatever they entail is what I consider "Transformers." That's the line I compare every other line to. Sometimes the newer line exceeds g1, sometimes it doesn't. There have been certain improvements in design and engineering, but I think each line is unique in its own way. Be it partsformers, or faux parts (2 things I never really "got" nor do they bother me) I take it as part of whatever style that particular line is in. If I had to choose, I'd say faux parts stick out a bit more, but it's never been a big enough problem to keep me from enjoying a figure, whether transforming it or just displaying it. I'm a Transformers fan, and I take the figures as they come, even when sometimes I dislike some features.

This.

Agreed, I could not have said it any better..

Same deal. If it transforms and labeled with the Autobot/Decepticon faction symbol, it's a Transformer.

Mindmaster wrote:labeled with the Autobot/Decepticon faction symbol, it's a Transformer.

I guess these guys aren't really Transformers, then.