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Why do sites always call furtive pics snapped at the newsagent "scans"?

Because the pages have been scanned through a printer.

Then someone needs to learn how to use a scanner, 'cause those sure as hell look like photos to me.
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Postby Sabrblade » Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:43 pm

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NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:
KirbyForce1 wrote:
NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:Pedantry Alert:

Why do sites always call furtive pics snapped at the newsagent "scans"?

Because the pages have been scanned through a printer.

Then someone needs to learn how to use a scanner, 'cause those sure as hell look like photos to me.
They obviously didn't want to tear up the magazine, so the pics are far from perfect and bent/curved to keep the spine intact.
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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:46 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:
KirbyForce1 wrote:
NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:Pedantry Alert:

Why do sites always call furtive pics snapped at the newsagent "scans"?

Because the pages have been scanned through a printer.

Then someone needs to learn how to use a scanner, 'cause those sure as hell look like photos to me.
They obvious didn't want to tear up the magazine, so the pics are far from perfect and bent/curved to keep the spine intact.


Should we even care about how it's even done? Either way, we still see the contents of the magazine which is priority number one. >:oP
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Postby shajaki » Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:27 pm

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seein a lot of anger over the color scheme... to me it just looks like they were going for a G1 toy accurate color scheme. it doesnt exactly match, but its closer to that than the toon wheeljack.

and after seeing the plans for streak/bluestreak/silverstreak/streakystreakystreakstreak... im not worried.

wheeljack is his own entity, thus one mold, one use. but this way they can at very least get two figures out of it: G1 toy accurate & G1 cartoon accurate.

and i dont think ive ever been more excited about some teaser/non-information than the ultra magnus silhouette.
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Deathscythetransform wrote:Starsaber? don't know that guy and I dont want to know him. Think of me as selfish, but I'd rather see Ultra Magnus (to which I am more familiar wit than that saber guy) be released before starsaber. Seeing only a shadow of him make me want him more than ever.

as someone said, its a good time to be a G1 addict!


Star saber doesn't have any bearing on Magnus's release. He is separate to the rest of the MP line, even had a different designer. This is why BB is MP21 and Magnus is MP22. Ultra Magnus wouldn't come out any faster even if Saber didn't exist. :D

I do wish Magnus would come sooner, however. But hopefully the wait is because the new trailer parts are gonna be damn worth it! :KREMZEEK:
(I do look forward to Star Saber's release...but not his price tag...)
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I thought the "Phase Sixer" comment was a reference to Ultra Magnus having a green super spark in the IDW comics? http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Phase_Sixer

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Postby TimothyR » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:41 pm

shajaki wrote:seein a lot of anger over the color scheme... to me it just looks like they were going for a G1 toy accurate color scheme. it doesnt exactly match, but its closer to that than the toon wheeljack.

and after seeing the plans for streak/bluestreak/silverstreak/streakystreakystreakstreak... im not worried.

wheeljack is his own entity, thus one mold, one use. but this way they can at very least get two figures out of it: G1 toy accurate & G1 cartoon accurate.

and i dont think ive ever been more excited about some teaser/non-information than the ultra magnus silhouette.


okay.. first, you're wrong.

they RARELY consider the toy coloring for anything.. and this isn't an exception.. the colors are based on the actual real life vehicle.. the colors aren't based on the toy whatsoever.

and if you read what hasui said about wheeljack.. he said that he tried to make the color of the vehicle mode as accurate to the real life car as he could, and said that he tried to make the robot mode look closer to the animation model.

so, again, the colors have absolutely nothing to do with the toy.

i said it earlier that i REALLY hope they release a simpler cartoon accurate color scheme since, as he is right now, he doesn't fit all that well with the other autobot cars. the color schemes on the other cars are simple, so they translated perfectly into being accurate to both the cartoon and the real life car. wheeljack, however, was too complicated for the animators.. which now turns into this mess.

and, like you said, wheeljack hasn't been made with the thoughts of further use of the mold.. so i would think that it's likely we'll see an animation accurate wheeljack.

i hope they do.. and when they do, hopefully i'll be able to sell the car accurate wheeljack lol.. though i'm sure i'll end up keeping it cause it looks great.. it's just not perfect compared to the others.

this news story has really ruined my excitement for bumblebee and wheeljack because i'm SOOOO excited for magnus lol. i'm still excited for the other two, but magnus is just going to be incredible.. there's no real life vehicle to be modeled after.. either of the two ways of him achieving his robot mode is just fine with me.. i love it.
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Postby Stormrider » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:08 am

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Wheeljack looks pretty good. I find it interesting that they provided a shot of Wheeljack's back. I wonder if it's because people have complained about a lack of back shots in the past and been disappointed with hollow legs and back kibble on previous releases. Anyway, nice to see his legs look solid (with the exception of the ankles which to me is minor).

Ultra Magnus is wielding a relatively small gun. I hope his toes/feet are better designed and more pronounced than his G1 version.
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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:47 am

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Have folks forgotten that Wheeljack's mold can be used to make another character? Specifically this guy?

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Postby craggy » Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:59 am

Sabrblade wrote:Have folks forgotten that Wheeljack's mold can be used to make another character? Specifically this guy?

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i didn't when i meantioned it in some other thread where people were having a fit about repaints and colour-schemes.

on the other hand, of course I'm sorry if your childhood is ruined forever because an update of a Transformer toy from the 80s looks quite a bit like a Transformer toy.


Nice to get confirmation of Magnus though. Oh, wait! lets all get our knickers into a twist about the Phase 6 thing. It seems like a wave designation to me,.
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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:36 pm

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craggy wrote:on the other hand, of course I'm sorry if your childhood is ruined forever because an update of a Transformer toy from the 80s looks quite a bit like a Transformer toy.
What's this, now? Whose childhood? What toy? Huh? :???: :???: :???: :???:
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Postby craggy » Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:30 pm

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craggy wrote:on the other hand, of course I'm sorry if your childhood is ruined forever because an update of a Transformer toy from the 80s looks quite a bit like a Transformer toy.
What's this, now? Whose childhood? What toy? Huh? :???: :???: :???: :???:

I wasn't replying to you specifically with that part of my post. Ignore it and move on.
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Postby REMINATOR » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:03 pm

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First MP WJ, I must say, I was very excited by the prototype but this latest revelation just killed it for me. He looks like he's wearing the Xmas red and green sweater, lol. Not a fan of the black color too. Looks like WJ may be joining my wait for Hasbro release just like Red Alert unless there's a toon exclusive redeco down the line.

As for UM, I'm super excited to see the official confirmation. Tip my hat to BBTS for the super early bird news. Other than the teeny tiny gun, so far I really like what I see from MP UM.

As for Phase 6 labeling, that's just the Magazine Layout format. Here's a quote from the man who did the translation:
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He also mentions that the main challenge is to decide on the price range - they want to deliver a great and affordable product so they're deciding on that boring stuff (drop/include features, accessories).

And... forget about the Phase 5, Phase 6 thing. It's just the magazine listing the news in a fancy way.
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Postby shajaki » Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:41 pm

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shajaki wrote:seein a lot of anger over the color scheme... to me it just looks like they were going for a G1 toy accurate color scheme. it doesnt exactly match, but its closer to that than the toon wheeljack.


okay.. first, you're wrong.

they RARELY consider the toy coloring for anything.. and this isn't an exception.. the colors are based on the actual real life vehicle.. the colors aren't based on the toy whatsoever.

and if you read what hasui said about wheeljack.. he said that he tried to make the color of the vehicle mode as accurate to the real life car as he could, and said that he tried to make the robot mode look closer to the animation model.

so, again, the colors have absolutely nothing to do with the toy.

okay.. first, theres no need to be a dick.

im aware that it was meant to be based on the real car. but the G1 toy also had the majority of the sponsor decals which is mainly where it differs from the cartoon. but also the black in place of the *should be* grey, and the G1 window is arguably clear/smoked, definitely not blue. for these reasons i believe he resembles the G1 toy more than the G1 cartoon model. hell, give him the dual launchers the original toy had and he'd be a dead ringer.

and "RARELY consider"? how about streak? he's getting two variants based soley on toys. hasbros rodimus was based on the original hot rod toy. MP10's darker blue is a reflection of the G1 toys colors. tigertrack and G2 sideswipe (aside from comics) only existed as toys. and that covers most of the MP molds since the rescaling. is that what you mean by rarely?
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What about Malboor WJ?
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Sabrblade wrote:Have folks forgotten that Wheeljack's mold can be used to make another character? Specifically this guy?

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What about Malboor WJ?
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Postby craggy » Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:29 am

Slicer is certainly easier though, as no retooling required and no pesky legal dept worrying paint job.
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Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:31 am

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craggy wrote:Slicer is certainly easier though, as no retooling required and no pesky legal dept worrying paint job.
Indeed.

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Postby Hammer » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:19 am

fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Have folks forgotten that Wheeljack's mold can be used to make another character? Specifically this guy?

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What about Malboor WJ?


I dont think that we will see the Marlboro chevron on Wheeljack again unless it's a custom.
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