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AutoBorst wrote:Sweet lord, that Soundwave looks amazing, enough to bring me out of my lurker shell and actually post for once. Fans have been asking for this since MP1. And the news on the additional cassette is great news (though BBTS's 31% markup is complete crap, but this is why I won't buy from them anyways).

they also said this..

"Please Note: The addition of Laserbeak to the MP-13 has increased the Japanese retail MSRP as well as wholesale costs by 31%. We have updated our listing to include Laserbeak and adjusted the pricing as well. 'Thank You' pricing is still in effect - preorder now and save $20 off normal preorder pricing"

"We appreciate your patronage and want to thank all our valued Transformers customers by offering a special preorder discount on this item! Transformers and Transformer customers have been a key part of BBTS since inception in 1999! If it’s been a while since you’ve purchased from BBTS, we want you back! If you’ve never shopped with us before, give us a try - we won’t let you down! Our Pile of Loot, Secure Shopping, No-Strings-Attached Preorders, Gigantic Selection, Vintage Department, Collector Grade, Protective Packaging, and Superior Service make BBTS the #1 destination for collectors. "

BBTS is a truly fantastic place to shop. i've tried other places, but i always return to BBTS. their customer service is literally the best i've ever experienced... ever.

and to me.. their prices are pretty good (except, the american releases seem a little pricy.. but why buy from there when you can just go to the store..)

their no strings attached preordering is the greatest thing.

AutoBorst wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:It seems MP Sideswipe doesn't look too out of scale with the other deluxe Classics figs. I think I'll pass on Red Alert (since I actually have his Generations fig) and go for MP Sideswipe and the inevitable Sunstreaker. I love Lamborghini's, so Sideswipe is a no-brainer.

I don't see that. MP10 stands the same size as Rodimus, which is barely an inch taller than Hot Rod himself. Based on the size comparison picture between Sideswipe only comes to his waist. Sideswipe should be just as tall as Hot Rod. Sideswipe looks like a mini-spy.

Unfortunately new new MP scale has completely screwed early MP collectors out of having a consistent and accurate series collection.

I haven't watched the G1 cartoon since I was a kid, but if memory serves, the car bots were more or less rib height standing next to OP. To me at least, the Classics Autobot figs are in reasonable scale with MP-10. So as long as Sideswipe doesn't dwarf Classics Red Alert, I consider them to be in relative scale.

I'm basing the scale on the G1 cartoon, which admittedly inconsistent at best. But it mostly had the car bots (Prowl, Jazz, Sideswipe etc.) considerably shorter than OP (up to his ribs IIRC), which IMO makes MP-10 scale well with my Classics figs.

I can't comment on MP-09 basically because I never bought him.

In any case, I remember an interview with Takara stating that MP-10 is now the new size standard, which all following MP's will be scaled with.

TimothyR wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:

Blurrz wrote:

quickmixed wrote:
I think a seperate pack of cassetes is a good idea and I would be all over it too. But can we expect the cassettes to be labelled MP15 or is there another reveal coming?

Exciting times. I'm loving this line.

I'm sure that due to their lack of size they won't be labelled such, but rather a MP-13n side.

You don't consider this Laserbeak a masterpiece? It's probably the best version of the character ever. I hope we get a better look at Ravage and Frumble soon.

Great looking masterpiece Laserbeak. Too bad they couldn't make the canons on his boosters a little longer.

alldarker wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Well I hope the TT version is able to pose in the way the the FT one is. Because that's the way I wanna display my soundwave with him hitting the eject button and laserbeak ejecting out of his chest. And I hope his fingers are better articulated than mp-10s and mp-9s

Hitting eject:

Looks like double hinged elbows

AutoBorst wrote:My only concern is the scale, if he's not at least as tall as Starscream then I'll be sorely disappointed. I'm still not happy with the MP scale change starting with MP10. Seeing Sideswipe and knowing he won't at least be as tall as MP9 Hot Rod made my decision to not buy him pretty easy.

You make a really important point - I truly hope Soundwave does not turn out to be shorter than MP Starscream.

he won't be.. the scale really changed with grimlock and Rodimus.. if you read the post above.. they explain it pretty well.like zodconvoy said (which i believe is one of the best posts in this entire thread) the hot rod/rodimus toy was supposed to be mainly for rodimus prime. it wouldn't make any sense for sideswipe to be as tall as him.

plus, if we want all of the autobot cars.. i'd rather them stick with this scale. they'll be cheaper, and we can get more of them quicker.

mp01-04 was just entirely too large. it really makes having any of the larger figures impossible. with this scale we MAY* be able to get a devastator, or an omega supreme.. while still having it be in scale and reasonably priced.

i personally wouldn't mind replacing my entire generation/classics collection with masterpiece figures. because you know that each mold for each character will be as close to screen accurate as possible.

having red alert is a good example.. with the fake wheels on his shoulders.. same mold, and it's something they easily could've skipped, but they didn't..

I am very familiar with the statement that Takara made in the translated article nearly 10 months ago that the MP line up would take into consideration scale. However, it doesn't guarantee anything. MP Soundwave could be two inches taller, or two inches shorter, or the exact same height as MP Starscream.

TimothyR wrote:if you read the post above.. they explain it pretty well.like zodconvoy said (which i believe is one of the best posts in this entire thread)

SCORE!

i've already preordered soundwave and sideswipe from bbts, i'll wait to see what price HLJ attaches to them.

soundwave is all kinds of awesome, with the magnet links, eject buttons, cassette minions and his accurate looks

great job takara. i'll have one, thanks

Did anyone watch the video? I'm wondering if there are magnets at play. For example when he transformers Lazerbeak or when he puts it on SW arm and shoulder. Made me think of those Bakugon type toys and all the possible uses te magnets could maybe have. Just a thought, like launching the cassette using
Magnetic force and having it instantly transformer as it does so.

Can not wait for this (already had it on order since I first heard) now I just wish we could have a MP Overlord, Galvatron, and a retooled Megatron minus the weak legs and smoke stack on his back.

Gojira101 wrote:Did anyone watch the video? I'm wondering if there are magnets at play. For example when he transformers Lazerbeak or when he puts it on SW arm and shoulder. Made me think of those Bakugon type toys and all the possible uses te magnets could maybe have. Just a thought, like launching the cassette using
Magnetic force and having it instantly transformer as it does so.

They hid the Condor transformation from us. One guy transformed it while another guy covered it up with his hands so we wouldn't see how it transforms.

Deruji wrote:

Gojira101 wrote:Did anyone watch the video? I'm wondering if there are magnets at play. For example when he transformers Lazerbeak or when he puts it on SW arm and shoulder. Made me think of those Bakugon type toys and all the possible uses te magnets could maybe have. Just a thought, like launching the cassette using
Magnetic force and having it instantly transformer as it does so.

Can not wait for this (already had it on order since I first heard) now I just wish we could have a MP Overlord, Galvatron, and a retooled Megatron minus the weak legs and smoke stack on his back.

I mentioned this earlier. If you look at the pics where Laserbeak is on his shoulder, you can see that Laserbeaks feet hook into the shoulder ridges and on the outside of his wrist there is a protrusion where the feet lock on.

Thanks for mentioning it again. I kind of see the wrist part your talking about. Still wish this worked on a magnet system though then there would maybe have been less worry about friction clip ins. But I'm far from complying though, this figure is what I've been waiting years for.

Sabrblade wrote:

Gojira101 wrote:Did anyone watch the video? I'm wondering if there are magnets at play. For example when he transformers Lazerbeak or when he puts it on SW arm and shoulder. Made me think of those Bakugon type toys and all the possible uses te magnets could maybe have. Just a thought, like launching the cassette using
Magnetic force and having it instantly transformer as it does so.

They hid the Condor transformation from us. One guy transformed it while another guy covered it up with his hands so we wouldn't see how it transforms.

It don't seem that hard to figure it out though. From condor mode:

-Turn the wings forward, then fold them in
-Pull the silver weapon mounts to his sides, over the wing joints
-Fold the weapon mount wings downward to wrap completely around
-Straighten legs out, then turn feet around
-Push head in

Seems pretty simple IMO.