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Re: FoC Combaticons and Bruticus (bright colors)

Postby amtm » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:10 pm

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Re: FoC Combaticons and Bruticus (bright colors)

Postby BeastProwl » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:20 pm

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Re: FoC Combaticons and Bruticus (bright colors)

Postby Roaddbuster » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:22 am

:BANG_HEAD: IS THIS GUY COMING TO JAPAN???? I HOPE IT DOES!!!
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Re: FoC Combaticons and Bruticus (bright colors)

Postby KNM2012 » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:36 am

Roaddbuster wrote::BANG_HEAD: IS THIS GUY COMING TO JAPAN???? I HOPE IT DOES!!!


Takara Tomy is bringing the first wave (currently sans Shockwave) of the 2012 Generations line. This means that unless they have different plans for this line, much like they had when they invented UNITED, we should be hearing something about this set between the end of 2012 and beginning of 2013. >:oP
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Re: FoC Combaticons and Bruticus (bright colors)

Postby PhelesDragon » Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:07 pm

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I'm so disappointed that he's only being released in stores in those stupid bright colors. Why is the game-accurate one the exclusive???? That makes no sense!!!!!!!!
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Re: FoC Combaticons and Bruticus (bright colors)

Postby KNM2012 » Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:15 pm

PhelesDragon wrote:I'm so disappointed that he's only being released in stores in those stupid bright colors. Why is the game-accurate one the exclusive???? That makes no sense!!!!!!!!

It does make sense. You just need to drop the rage just to consider the reasons. >:oP

This set was made for those who like playing with their toys, not just those who want to just collect these sets. That is why they sold a complete set at SDCC, and is doing a Generation 2 variant as an online exclusive. Those were aimed at collectors. But these... There is that reason why they are sold individually, not series accurate, and will be owned by young boys who still play with Transformers. >:oP
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Re: FoC Combaticons and Bruticus (bright colors)

Postby PhelesDragon » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:53 pm

Motto: ""Fool! Pain is my friend; allow my to introduce YOU to it!""
Fair, but what about those who couldn't make it to SDCC and can't afford to spend $200+ on a game accurate one? You'd be hard-pressed to say that Hasbro couldn't sell repaints of their popular figures and appeal to young kids and avid collectors.

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PhelesDragon wrote:I'm so disappointed that he's only being released in stores in those stupid bright colors. Why is the game-accurate one the exclusive???? That makes no sense!!!!!!!!

It does make sense. You just need to drop the rage just to consider the reasons. >:oP

This set was made for those who like playing with their toys, not just those who want to just collect these sets. That is why they sold a complete set at SDCC, and is doing a Generation 2 variant as an online exclusive. Those were aimed at collectors. But these... There is that reason why they are sold individually, not series accurate, and will be owned by young boys who still play with Transformers. >:oP
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Re: FoC Combaticons and Bruticus (bright colors)

Postby KNM2012 » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:50 pm

PhelesDragon wrote:Fair, but what about those who couldn't make it to SDCC and can't afford to spend $200+ on a game accurate one? You'd be hard-pressed to say that Hasbro couldn't sell repaints of their popular figures and appeal to young kids and avid collectors.


Let me tell you a true story about my collection, as it ties to this: Around the end of November of last year, I decided that I was going to drop any thoughts of collecting comics (as that was an on-off past time for me) and start collecting Transformers. I ordered my very first Transformer on December 7th, and it was the "Gentei! Gentei! Transformers" Dark Skyfire. My plan was to obtain this, get it graded by AFA, and try to obtain its Henkei! counterpart.

Nine months later, I still do not have that piece in my collection. And because of both his scarcity and price on the open-market, I had to drop all plans to obtain any Masterpiece pieces I wanted... Drop any initial ideas of buying anything that is not a reissue piece... And other things. All for an item that was around $50 new, and is now around $200 because Takara Tomy has currently chosen to not reissue this piece (much like they did with Hot Rodimus, which they did not entirely explain why).

Point being is that people who get into the idea of collecting need to accept the fact that they will not be catered to during the time they stick with their collection of choice. Companies like Hasbro cater to the target age group because that is where they make their money in the end. And Takara Tomy does the same while collaborating with others that want to make exclusives that not every collector and/or fan will be able to get in the end. That is why collecting is a business in its own way, and why collectors need to be prepared to only purchase what they want when it is offered to them.

And if it did... Primus! I would have a collection consisting of reissues that include the manga exclusive Targetmasters, all of the 1987 Headmasters, the Dinobots, all Cybertron "Scramble City"-style combiners, Sixshot (and not the Asian market reissue), Metalhawk, Grand Maximus, Star Saber, and Victory Saber. That is, if both Hasbro and Takara Tomy were to cater to the same fans who wanted the SDCC Bruticus reissued for their collection-based needs. ;) But until then... I have to aim for the pieces I need, and sacrifice any others that do not fit into my plan. :BOOM:
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Re: FoC Combaticons and Bruticus (bright colors)

Postby PhelesDragon » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:09 pm

Motto: ""Fool! Pain is my friend; allow my to introduce YOU to it!""
Wow, story time, totally makes me want to read all of that and agree with you. While I did take time to skim it, I can't find a good reason not to share my discontent with a choice by the company(being that I'm a paying customer, and feedback helps lubricate change). I'm not sitting here cutting myself because store-edition Bruticus has a lousy color scheme, but I'll be damned if I won't express my dislike of it in the hope that something might change.

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PhelesDragon wrote:Fair, but what about those who couldn't make it to SDCC and can't afford to spend $200+ on a game accurate one? You'd be hard-pressed to say that Hasbro couldn't sell repaints of their popular figures and appeal to young kids and avid collectors.


Let me tell you a true story about my collection, as it ties to this: Around the end of November of last year, I decided that I was going to drop any thoughts of collecting comics (as that was an on-off past time for me) and start collecting Transformers. I ordered my very first Transformer on December 7th, and it was the "Gentei! Gentei! Transformers" Dark Skyfire. My plan was to obtain this, get it graded by AFA, and try to obtain its Henkei! counterpart.

Nine months later, I still do not have that piece in my collection. And because of both his scarcity and price on the open-market, I had to drop all plans to obtain any Masterpiece pieces I wanted... Drop any initial ideas of buying anything that is not a reissue piece... And other things. All for an item that was around $50 new, and is now around $200 because Takara Tomy has currently chosen to not reissue this piece (much like they did with Hot Rodimus, which they did not entirely explain why).

Point being is that people who get into the idea of collecting need to accept the fact that they will not be catered to during the time they stick with their collection of choice. Companies like Hasbro cater to the target age group because that is where they make their money in the end. And Takara Tomy does the same while collaborating with others that want to make exclusives that not every collector and/or fan will be able to get in the end. That is why collecting is a business in its own way, and why collectors need to be prepared to only purchase what they want when it is offered to them.

And if it did... Primus! I would have a collection consisting of reissues that include the manga exclusive Targetmasters, all of the 1987 Headmasters, the Dinobots, all Cybertron "Scramble City"-style combiners, Sixshot (and not the Asian market reissue), Metalhawk, Grand Maximus, Star Saber, and Victory Saber. That is, if both Hasbro and Takara Tomy were to cater to the same fans who wanted the SDCC Bruticus reissued for their collection-based needs. ;) But until then... I have to aim for the pieces I need, and sacrifice any others that do not fit into my plan. :BOOM:
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Re: FoC Combaticons and Bruticus (bright colors)

Postby KNM2012 » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:54 pm

PhelesDragon wrote:Wow, story time, totally makes me want to read all of that and agree with you.


Yeah... Thanks. However, the entire point to my "story" is that you need to either plan out how you will obtain what you want... Or move on and hope that you get lucky in the future. Having issues like this will only take away from you enjoying the hobby, and not expanding your collection.

And believe me... It has taken me 20 years (and a lot of other factors) to get to this point. And what you are expressing is one of the factors I faced while jumping from one collection to another. :BOOM:

PhelesDragon wrote:While I did take time to skim it, I can't find a good reason not to share my discontent with a choice by the company(being that I'm a paying customer, and feedback helps lubricate change).


However... In order for them to listen, you need to write them a professional sounding letter that will have them be interested in what you say. And even then, you either need to make up 1% of their annual profits or have enough shares to be heard. Otherwise, you are just another paying customer and not their target customer.

At least that is what the experts have told me and others when it came to this ongoing subject. :-?

PhelesDragon wrote:I'm not sitting here cutting myself because store-edition Bruticus has a lousy color scheme, but I'll be damned if I won't express my dislike of it in the hope that something might change.


Never said you were. However, when it comes to "change"... If you do this every time you are not getting what you want, the change you will see is the one where you quit this hobby and move onto something else you hope will not include this issue.

Hence the point I made when I said that you need to accept the risk of not getting everything you want, and working at getting the pieces that you will enjoy. ;)
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