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Re: freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:32 am

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Optimus Primevil wrote: chop off zee limbs, surround the area with earth's toxic waste(well if cybertron's such a hell hole now then prime won't object to the earth's governments to use it as a dumping ground now would he?) then blow off aging earth nukes when someone gets on the perimeter.

harsh, yes but movie prime's all ready ruthless.

megatron was being picked off one piece at a time because he's the only specimen sector 7 had at the time. bumblebee's the one they'd tear open to see what's ticking.


Wow. :roll: I mean, really?

Your suggesting that cutting off the limbs of captured decepticons, surrounding them in toxic waste, and then setting off neucular weapons whitch would result in the instant death of them, as well as anyone within a 50 mile raduis is far better plan then just killing them in battle? Not to meantion the radiation that would linger and cause the slow death of thousands. This in your eyes is a better idea and more humane.. :roll:
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Re: freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

Postby Optimus Primevil » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:50 am

you do realize it's on cybertron or are you still thinking earth? because of course it's whacked to do that plan on earth and no government would allow that on their soil to happen.

death squads all the way then
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Re: freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:33 am

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Optimus Primevil wrote:you do realize it's on cybertron or are you still thinking earth? because of course it's whacked to do that plan on earth and no government would allow that on their soil to happen.

death squads all the way then


we were talking about earth. When did the conversation shift to Cybertron? Remember, they have no way to get back to Cybertron. SO i'll give you one more chance to validate your aurgument. On eath, how do you plan on imprisoning captured Decepticons??
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Re: freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

Postby Optimus Primevil » Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:07 am

oh sorry, i assumed they can go home via space bridges, if not go to space manually (they were capable of space flight in the first movie after all).

i'm sure the UN would rather imprison decepticons rather than have an armed group hunting, rounding them up and killing them all...you know like jews during world war II
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Re: freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:37 am

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Optimus Primevil wrote: i'm sure the UN would rather imprison decepticons rather than have an armed group hunting, rounding them up and killing them all...you know like jews during world war II


1.- After three attempts you still have not answered How you plan on imprisoning captured decepticon??

2.- Your Aurgument of the UN rather imprisoning them vs. hunting them is invalid since they have been hunting them. If they wanted to imprison them then they would have made provision to do so already instead of hunting them in ROTF.

And how can you compare their imprisoning to Jews in WWII??? Jews were not attempting to kill us and take over our planet.
I'm trying to be calm and respectfull as i can, but you keep avoid the questions asked and then using completely non relevent aurguments to attempt to back yours up and non of it is working to your benifit.
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Re: freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

Postby Optimus Primevil » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:22 pm

1.freeze them (like sector seven did) if you're not into turning them into torsos.

2.i mentioned the UN because apparently NEST is not a global task force if they had to request a clearance to use jordanian aerospace. and the problem at the shanghai scene is do they event want to capture them or are they just there to kill them? Optimus could me a grand speech at an assembly why it is imperative to take them all out and no quarter would be given, but then he'll probably look like an genocidial maniac.

3.didn't adolf claim that jews are bringing down the germans and must be eliminated? same argument, different set of people. even if they're evil who are they (humans and autobots) to be entitled the right to genocide to a side who are for all purposes defeated militarily?
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Re: freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

Postby Superion12345 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:30 am

Optimus Primevil wrote:1.freeze them (like sector seven did) if you're not into turning them into torsos.

2.i mentioned the UN because apparently NEST is not a global task force if they had to request a clearance to use jordanian aerospace. and the problem at the shanghai scene is do they event want to capture them or are they just there to kill them? Optimus could me a grand speech at an assembly why it is imperative to take them all out and no quarter would be given, but then he'll probably look like an genocidial maniac.

3.didn't adolf claim that jews are bringing down the germans and must be eliminated? same argument, different set of people. even if they're evil who are they (humans and autobots) to be entitled the right to genocide to a side who are for all purposes defeated militarily?


short answer:
for the greater good just exterminate them. :D

1) maybe to expensive to put them dormant via cryo statis and too dangerous.
2) OP is fed up. the war took too long.
3) well, ... they are the good guys... permission granted. :)
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Re: freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

Postby Optimus Primevil » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:35 am

if only prime didn't keep using his tech spec quote in the movies, it would've been ok. makes him look like a hypocrite
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Re: freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

Postby Phategod1 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:59 am

rich prime wrote:
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Actually, Prime was more "G1" in the first TF movie, but ya know what? People did nothing but bitch and complain on how much of a pussy he was getting the crap beaten out of him by Megatron. So Bay & Co. responded by making him the bad ass he should be. But again, people still bitched and complained that he to violent. So please don't give this garbage that this Prime is solely based on "Bay's vision", cause that is wrong. And please get over the G1 one referenaces. This is not G1, and even when the reboot comes in several years, don't expect it to be based off G1 either.

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G1 one, .."That he to violent....."? and there you have it folks the argument by the lowest common denominator.
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Re: freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

Postby Optimus Primevil » Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:17 am

the quote makes it unclear who's the one who compared movie prime to g1 prime, unless you backtrack to page 3.
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