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Frenzy: Barricade's Minion or Soundwave's?

Postby PaperDestruction » Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:43 pm

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Watching Transformers (2007) got me think a lot, "Wait, I watched the Transformers Cartoon series for a LONG time, and Frenzy was ALWAYS Soundwave's minions, but now he's Barricade's minion?". Frenzy was never Barricade's minion, but in the movie he is? I need answers.
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Re: Frenzy: Barricade's Minion or Soundwave's?

Postby BeastProwl » Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:54 pm

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Well, originally, soundwave wasn going to be in the film. Same with Arcee and Striker. They didn't have the funding for this, however, so frenzy was sort of a nod to Soundwave in his absense. Of course, they put one of soundwave's minions in each movie, bbut the actual Soundwave didnt come in till part 2.
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Re: Frenzy: Barricade's Minion or Soundwave's?

Postby DJLazer » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:10 pm

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Frenzy is soundwave's minion. But in the 2007 they decided to give it to barricade, cuz soundwvae was not there.
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Re: Frenzy: Barricade's Minion or Soundwave's?

Postby Marcdachamp » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:48 pm

BeastProwl wrote:Well, originally, soundwave wasn going to be in the film.


In a few forms, actually. In fact, at one point, Frenzy was going to be named Soundwave, but the fans complained and it was changed. Frenzy fit much better.
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Re: Frenzy: Barricade's Minion or Soundwave's?

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:24 pm

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And to reiterate what's been said countless times: the movie and G1 are two separate universes, each with it's own features, interpretations, and names.

Decepticons seem to excel in (symbiotic) partners, look at this list:

Blackout: Scorponok
Barricade: Frenzy
Soundwave: Ravage and Laserbeak
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Re: Frenzy: Barricade's Minion or Soundwave's?

Postby Noideaforaname » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:41 pm

^Ravage himself also had Reedman and possibly Doctor Scalpel as minions.

While not totally the same, many Movieverse characters have the same role/characteristics as their G1 counterparts. There aren't quite as many wild deviations many other adaptations fall prey to (see: Mario Bros. movie).
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Re: Frenzy: Barricade's Minion or Soundwave's?

Postby Marcdachamp » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:02 am

Noideaforaname wrote:^Ravage himself also had Reedman and possibly Doctor Scalpel as minions.

While not totally the same, many Movieverse characters have the same role/characteristics as their G1 counterparts. There aren't quite as many wild deviations many other adaptations fall prey to (see: Mario Bros. movie).


The films are a LOT more faithful than I think most fans would care to admit.
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Re: Frenzy: Barricade's Minion or Soundwave's?

Postby Optimus1138 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:11 am

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In G1, Frenzy is Soundwave's minion. In the movie universe, Frenzy is Barricade's minion.
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Re: Frenzy: Barricade's Minion or Soundwave's?

Postby Noideaforaname » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:50 am

Marcdachamp wrote:The films are a LOT more faithful than I think most fans would care to admit.


To quote Incepticon from TFW
Prime: semi truck, mouthplate, red & blue, Autobot leader, voiced by Peter Cullen - as per G1
Bumblebee: yellow car, cute, Sam's "buddy" - as per G1
Jazz: small sports car, visor in robot mode, sounds "black" (not in a racist way) - as per G1
Ratchet: medic vehicle, medic character - as per G1
Ironhide: old, war torn & gruff in character - as per G1
Wheeljack: inventor character - as per G1
Megatron: silver & gray, Decepticon leader - as per G1
Shockwave: cyclops eye, head antenna, purple, large canon on arm - as per G1
Starscream: jet, underling to Megatron, weasley personality - as per G1
Soundwave: recon, spy, has Ravage & Laserbeak minions, voiced by Frank Welker - as per G1
Ravage: cat-like beast mode, minion of Soundwave - as per G1
Laserbeak: condor bird-like beast mode, minion of Soundwave - as per G1
Brawl: giant green tank - as per G1
Devastator: combiner made of Constructicons - as per G1
Long Haul: dump truck, Constructicon, colored bright green - as per G1
Sam: last name Witwicky, companion to Bumblebee - as per G1
Carly: blonde, girlfriend of Sam - as per G1

Plus...

- Cullen & Welker reprising the roles they originally did for G1

- G1 transformation sound heard throughout all three movies

- Matrix of Leadership existing and possessed by Prime - introduced via G1

- existence of the space bridge - introduced via G1

- Prime having a glowing orange axe and Megatron utilizing a mace - introduced via G1

- DOTM main plots being the exile of the Autobots and the transport of Cybertron to Earth, as per the G1 episodes "The Ultimate Doom" and "Megatron's Master Plan"

- Jazz's flip onto Brawl in TF1 was almost a frame for frame recreation of Kup flipping onto Blitzwing in the original G1 animated movie

- most of Prime's key one-liners such as "one shall stand, one shall", "Autobots, roll out", and "it's just you and me now, Megatron" lifted directly from G1

- Sam tells Mikeala she's "more than meets the eye" - G1's definitive tagline

- Ironhide's mention of "leaking lubrant" in direct reference one of his most famous G1 lines

- Autobot & Decepticon logos based off G1 versions - not G2, not Beast Wars
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Re: Frenzy: Barricade's Minion or Soundwave's?

Postby Starscream GaGa » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:03 pm

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I was under the impression that Frenzy was his own 'con partnered with Barricade rather than anyone's minions.
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