Lastjustice wrote:But since Michael actually reused the name Devastator(which by your own words is able to veto this.) ....wait for it...he concedes that intent as well. This is same continuity , it's not Megatron in G1, and Megatron 2 in beast wars...so they can't both be Devastator.
A] even if he [now] acknowledges the intent of Hasbro it doesnt change what he did in the film
B] who says they can't both be Devastator?
There have been other examples of 2 different characters with the same name in other TF continuities.
When did they have chance to retcon it?
First DVD release.
Not to mention that Hasbro,Archer and the writers said it would likely be fixed on the DVD release.It doesnt matter that the 2nd film wasnt made yet, if Bay felt it was a mistake that was his chance to fix it.
And by the time the first DVD was in production, he already knew he was going to make a 2nd film.
(or that there was going be sequel for sure, as it wasn't announced till a couple months after the first movie was out of theathers I believe.)
Actually the 2nd film was green lite within days of the premier.
In order for a retcon to happen something new has to be made. Given Brawl was dead, there was no need to rename him on screen.
A] the retcon could have been done on the DVD release
B] their could have been some mention of the character in the 2nd film.
The majority of the Decepticons names were never mentioned during the film...Does that somehow mean they don't have names?
It means no names were given on film.If you choose to use the toy or credit names thats up to you.
No, you just refuse to acknowledge contuity errors.
Not at all, but even continuity errors are in fact what we may have seen.
But differences in names arent really a "continuity error".
Take Xmen series, their contuity is all sorts of jacked up. The only explanion that makes a lick of sense is X3 and Wolverine can not have happened for First Class to have taken place.
If I go with this well the movie says so, and people can't change their minds or make mistakes stance you are there's two characters named Emma frost. Two different mutant experts named Hank Mccoy. Professor X regained use of his legs after he was shot, and somehow lost the ability to walk again after recruiting Cyclops and Jean. (and made amends briefly with Magneto to recruit Jean at the beginning of X3.)
I know the X-films have a few issues.But most of what people assume to be "continuity" errors in those films arent....I'll trey to explain.
X-men origins Wolverine did not name a character "Emma Frost" in the film.
The only name given was "Emma", and she was the sister of Silverfox.Theres nothing in the story that says the "Emma" seen in the XoW film wasnt the daughter of Emma Frost we saw in FC.
Now true I doubt that it was intended that way,but it does allow for continuity to not be dented.
Why would there be a need for 2 Hank Mccoy???, because he went furry in FC and wasnt in the 2nd X-film?
Are you a fan of the character in the comics?
He has gone from "not furry", to furry and not furry and furry again several times in the comics.
That could very well be the case in the films continuity.
So again, not a continuity issue yet.
Just as with Beast, in the comics Professor X did INDEED regained the use of his legs several times and lost it again.
At one point he was even given a cloned body.
I'm not saying I would like to see these explanations on film, but it does allow for "continuity" to go un-damaged if they see fit to introduce these story points into the film universe.
Bottom line, these arent continuity errors....yet.
The writers may explain them in a new or familiar way.
So no this Movie is the highest canon,
I never claimed or implied that the film was "the highest canon".
But it IS canon.
As are the the other medium,.But they are all seprate continuities, all equal in standing.
Which is why I particulkasr in saying "the film" in my original claim.
The tank was called Devestator in the film
The tank was called Brawl in the game.
What ever other mediums call him its that name.
No one continuity is higher then the other.
If the powers that be, Hasbro the highest authority on Transformers say in the end it's an error, it's an error.
Hasbro can say what it wants, but it doesnt change the facts of the issue.
Bay did it deliberately.That nullifies the "error" claim made by anyone after the fact.
Is really that hard to just say Brawl was mistakenly named in the first film ?
I cant call it a mistake when it was deliberately done.
"Game Set and Match"......your not even close.The fact that there are other mistakes in the film arent even on point with this issue.