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Seibertron.com was first to bring you the breaking news on the upcoming release date for the Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Blu Ray and DVD disc sets of October 20th, 2009. We now bring you full details on the two sets, courtesy of Paramount Home Entertainment.

The two sets will both be dual disc editions complete with a myriad of bonus features that include a day in filming with Director Michael Bay and the ability to create your own Transformer. Blu Ray users can also become part of the action with new augmented reality technology that will allow you to interact with Optimus Prime via a holographic image through the use of a webcam. Blu Ray users will be asked to put the Matrix of Leadership back together to bring Prime back to life and help him on his quest!

Check out all the listed details below:

Two-Disc Special Edition DVD & Blu-ray:
The TRANSFORMERS: Revenge of the Fallen two-disc Special Edition DVD is presented in widescreen enhanced for 16:9 televisions with Dolby Digital English 5.1 Surround, French 5.1 Surround and Spanish 5.1 Surround with English, French and Spanish subtitles. The Blu-ray will be presented in 1080p high definition with English 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio, French 5.1 Dolby Digital and Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital with English, English SDH, French, Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese subtitles. The disc breakdown is as follows:

Disc 1:


-- Commentary by Michael Bay, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman



Disc 2:

-- The Human Factor: Exacting Revenge of the Fallen--This multi-chapter
documentary chronicles the entire creation of the film and includes
interviews with the cast and crew:
-- Seeds of Vengeance - Development and Design - After the overwhelming
success of 2007's Transformers, how do the filmmakers top
themselves for the sequel?
-- Domestic Destruction - Production: United States - Michael Bay
believes in going big: Big action and big explosions. Cast and
crew are pushed to the limit as they traverse the U.S. from New
Mexico to Pennsylvania.
-- Joint Operations - Production: Military - No other filmmaker in the
world enjoys the kind of military access and cooperation Michael Bay
has. Here we see just how efficient our armed forces are and the awe
and respect shown by the cast.
-- Wonders of the World - Production: Middle East - You can't
really reproduce Egypt anywhere but Egypt so off we go to Giza and
Luxor.
-- Start Making Sense - Editing - In order to turn over the massive
amount of film as quickly as possible to VFX, four editors work
tirelessly in a unique tag-team approach to shape the film.
-- Under the Gun - Visual Effects - Revenge of the Fallen features the
most complicated VFX in film history. So complicated in fact that
the filmmakers were unsure they would make the deadline. The
DEVASTATOR VFX alone required 83% of ILM's total render farm
capacity.
-- Running the Gauntlet - Post-Production and Release - Working seven
days a week, Michael Bay and company usher the film through sound
design, Digital Intermediate color-timing and a globe-trotting
whirlwind of premieres.
-- A Day with Bay: Tokyo--An intimate and fun all-access journey with
Michael Bay as he travels to Tokyo, Japan for the world premiere of the
biggest film of the year.
-- 25 Years of TRANSFORMERS--Access an all-new featurette celebrating a
monumental milestone for one of Hasbro's most successful and
popular franchises.
-- NEST: Transformer Data-Hub--Explore conceptual artwork created by the
production for 12 of the most popular AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS from the
film.
-- Deconstructing Visual Bayhem with Commentary by Pre-Vis Supervisor Steve
Yamamoto-- A series of multi-angle pre-visualization sequences allowing
viewers to learn how some of the film's most spectacular scenes
were created with an introduction by Michael Bay.
-- Extended Scenes

-- Music Video: Linkin Park's "New Divide"



BLU-RAY EXCLUSIVE:

-- The ALLSPARK Experiment--Viewers get their chance to unleash the power
of the recently recovered ALLSPARK shard on Earth vehicles. Begin by
selecting and customizing a vehicle with a selection of parts and
accessories. Then apply the ALLSPARK to this creation and watch what
happens. Applying the ALLSPARK to certain custom combinations enables
four new robot characters with special powers. If viewers discover all
four, they unlock a fifth vehicle, which reveals a top secret message
about the future of the TRANSFORMERS movie franchise.
-- NEST: Transformer Data-Hub--A database of some of the TRANSFORMERS
characters that appear in the new film, offering users access to each
robot's confidential file including:
-- Innovative 3D spin galleries of each robot
-- A timeline for each TRANSFORMERS character charting its origins,
back story and design evolution from toys to animated series to
comics and finally feature films
-- Giant Effing Movie - A very personal look at the making of the movie.

-- The Matrix of Marketing--An archive of the film's promotional media
including trailers, posters and television spots.



A Message for All Mankind
The TRANSFORMERS: Revenge of the Fallen Blu-ray and DVD debut will be supported by one of the largest marketing and promotional campaigns in Paramount Home Entertainment's history. In addition to a multi-million dollar advertising blitz spanning television, print, radio and online, a stellar array of partners has joined forces with the studio to ensure that the AUTOBOTS' message is transmitted to all of the Earth's inhabitants.

Chevrolet returns as a partner with an awesome sweepstakes offering participants the chance to win a dream garage. The winner will select two Chevy vehicles of their choice from the most diverse line-up on the planet, including the coveted Camaro, the all new Equinox, the critically acclaimed Malibu, the legendary Silverado and others. A huge online campaign will drive consumers to a dedicated website to enter to win. Papa John's will launch a massive national promotion in over 2,500 locations and featuring a multi-million dollar national television campaign promoting a $3.00 coupon for the DVD and Blu-ray. Papa John's will also produce over two million limited edition TRANSFORMERS-themed pizza boxes and promote the offer and DVD release on 25 million pieces of direct mail and over 250 million online impressions. Land O'Frost will feature a $3.00 DVD rebate inside five million packages of One Pound Premium(R) deli pouch lunch meats. The promotion will be executed across nearly 20,000 supermarkets. Perdue will feature a promotion on 2.5 million packages of PERDUE(R) Refrigerated Breaded Chicken products featuring a $5 DVD rebate that will be promoted through a full-page free-standing insert ad and in-store POP.

Synopsis:
The battle for Earth continues in this action-packed blockbuster from director Michael Bay and executive producer Steven Spielberg. When college-bound Sam Witwicky (Shia LaBeouf) learns the truth about the ancient origins of the TRANSFORMERS robots, he must accept his destiny and join OPTIMUS PRIME and BUMBLEBEE in their epic battle against the DECEPTICONS, who have returned stronger than ever with a plan to destroy our world.


TRANSFORMERS: Revenge of the Fallen
Street date: October 20, 2009
Runtime: 142 minutes
Pricing: $19.99 (Single-disc DVD)
$24.99 (Two-disc DVD)
$29.99 (Two-disc Blu-ray)
U.S. Rating: PG-13 for intense sequences of sci-fi action violence,
language, some crude and sexual material and brief drug
material
Canadian Rating: PG for violence

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ahah for everyone saying they perfer bluray is better bluray dvds special features really suck there really nothing tha would make want to buy the bluray version if i had blu dvd collection poeple are braggin bluray is better with 4 times more space but wheres the good special features deleted scenes, bloopers & everything else commentary everyone has that.

what another let down with specail features that sucks ill still buy it on dvd but i expected better than the first dvd only new thing i see is linkin park music video everything else pretty much same or no worth watching the same as bluray version

dragons wrote:ahah for everyone saying they perfer bluray is better bluray dvds special features really suck there really nothing tha would make want to buy the bluray version if i had blu dvd collection poeple are braggin bluray is better with 4 times more space but wheres the good special features deleted scenes, bloopers & everything else commentary everyone has that.

Uhhh, what? Personally, I get Blu Ray for the picture/sound quality.
That's also quite a sentence you got there, my friend.

So... no third disc with the movie to put on our PC with the Blu-Ray version?

dragons wrote:ahah for everyone saying they perfer bluray is better bluray dvds special features really suck there really nothing tha would make want to buy the bluray version if i had blu dvd collection poeple are braggin bluray is better with 4 times more space but wheres the good special features deleted scenes, bloopers & everything else commentary everyone has that.

what another let down with specail features that sucks ill still buy it on dvd but i expected better than the first dvd only new thing i see is linkin park music video everything else pretty much same or no worth watching the same as bluray version

Blu-ray technology allows higher quality audio/video, which is why I prefer it over standard DVD. The storage capacity isn't bragging, it's a fact.

The fact that the particular production of a movie and its features on Blu-ray doesn't take advantage of the technology isn't the fault of the technology, it's the fault for the producer who doesn't do more with what they have.

'If viewers discover all four, they unlock a fifth vehicle, which reveals a top secret message
about the future of the TRANSFORMERS movie franchise.'



If anyone is getting the Blu-Ray, you'll have to share with everyone what that is!

People like me probably won't get the Blu-Ray, mainly because there is hardly an kriffing difference between Blu-Ray and DVD (on a Blu-Ray machine, DVDs and Blu-Rays look practically the same), except the humongous price tag.

The only reason I'd get a Blu-Ray is because they don't have the dual-layer pauses, however my movie collection is filled with DVD and I keep a tradition going! So Blu-Ray can sod off and come back in another fifty years! Only then will I think about it...

Swiftknife24 wrote:'If viewers discover all four, they unlock a fifth vehicle, which reveals a top secret message
about the future of the TRANSFORMERS movie franchise.'



If anyone is getting the Blu-Ray, you'll have to share with everyone what that is!

People like me probably won't get the Blu-Ray, mainly because there is hardly an kriffing difference between Blu-Ray and DVD (on a Blu-Ray machine, DVDs and Blu-Rays look practically the same), except the humongous price tag.

The only reason I'd get a Blu-Ray is because they don't have the dual-layer pauses, however my movie collection is filled with DVD and I keep a tradition going! So naff off, Blu-Ray!

people on Youtube will probably upload this if its a spoken sort of thing or like a video game cinematic, they live for special features like this. and what cool is its not going to hurt DVD sales in anyway, by putting it up.

on a different note, love me some special features! doc featurettes, commetary! AWESOME!!!

Swiftknife24 wrote:People like me probably won't get the Blu-Ray, mainly because there is hardly an kriffing difference between Blu-Ray and DVD (on a Blu-Ray machine, DVDs and Blu-Rays look practically the same), except the humongous price tag.

The only reason I'd get a Blu-Ray is because they don't have the dual-layer pauses, however my movie collection is filled with DVD and I keep a tradition going! So Blu-Ray can sod off and come back in another fifty years! Only then will I think about it...

if you can't see a difference between the two then you've obviously never see a blu-ray movie properly displayed. i wont lie and say its an "OMG MY **** EYES ARE BLEEDING" type difference like some people try and claim but you'd have to be blind to not see the difference. i'm not a techie at all, my blu-ray players and tvs are just set to the manufacture settings and even that way blu-rays look much better than dvd. and as for the price, well at least over here blu-ray movies tend to be 2-5$ more than the dvd version. its not the almost 10$ difference it used to be just a few years ago. in some cases i've even seen a dvd be more expensive than its blu-ray counterpart.

and seeing that "i already have so many dvds" argument is getting sooooo old, my word. i'm not sure how where this idea that you HAVE to replace all your old movies came from but how retarded. of course you dont have to and you shouldnt. blu-ray players play dvd and they still look good and sometimes can even look better in a blu player. so of course you should keep your collection. double dipping is a personal choice, not an expectation or a requisite. i have well over 350 dvds and of course i'm not gonna rebuy them all on blu. i'm just buying blu from now on for releases i dont own.

i just dont get the blu-ray backlash (which is always from those who havent switched). if it doesn't interest you then let it go and move on. but to see these people constantly bitching anytime blu is mentioned somewhere...wow.

anyway my lil rant is over.

as for the actual release here, those are kick ass extras, even those who stick to dvd get a crapload of things so everybody wins.

You know, I actually enjoyed Bay's commentary on the first film, but there's no way in hell I'm listening to those 2 worthless hacks, Orci & Kurtzman.

Am I the only one who realizes the irony of a guy named Yamamoto supervising the obliteration of an American aircraft carrier? Even if it is only SFX?

Bouncy X wrote:if you can't see a difference between the two then you've obviously never see a blu-ray movie properly displayed. i wont lie and say its an "OMG MY **** EYES ARE BLEEDING" type difference like some people try and claim but you'd have to be blind to not see the difference. i'm not a techie at all, my blu-ray players and tvs are just set to the manufacture settings and even that way blu-rays look much better than dvd. and as for the price, well at least over here blu-ray movies tend to be 2-5$ more than the dvd version. its not the almost 10$ difference it used to be just a few years ago. in some cases i've even seen a dvd be more expensive than its blu-ray counterpart.

and seeing that "i already have so many dvds" argument is getting sooooo old, my word. i'm not sure how where this idea that you HAVE to replace all your old movies came from but how retarded. of course you dont have to and you shouldnt. blu-ray players play dvd and they still look good and sometimes can even look better in a blu player. so of course you should keep your collection. double dipping is a personal choice, not an expectation or a requisite. i have well over 350 dvds and of course i'm not gonna rebuy them all on blu. i'm just buying blu from now on for releases i dont own.

i just dont get the blu-ray backlash (which is always from those who havent switched). if it doesn't interest you then let it go and move on. but to see these people constantly bitching anytime blu is mentioned somewhere...wow.

anyway my lil rant is over.

I will definitely be doing the BD over the DVD because the quality is much, much better on my setup. As for those that don't think BD is better. Let me just give you the full specs. DVD=480 pixels per inch with a max of 6.1 digital sound(and very few movies have that, usually 5.1 or simply stereo surround(4.1). BD=1080-1200 pixels per inch with 7.1 surround available and 8.1 being worked on right now. If you combine a good BD system with an ambient lighting tech monitor/tv it is absolutely amazing!!!! I am a tech professional and you can believe me when I say it is at least 100% better. Now i'll tell you I don't have some new state of the art system I watch my BD/DVDs on. In fact it's a little over a year old, so i'm sure they have better quality now.


WRATH/computer specs:
Intel Q9450 quad core 2.7GHz/ 1333MHz FsB
ASUS P5Q Premium Mobo
EVGA GTX280 SSC Edition w/1Gb vRAM and 240(if i remember right) Graphics processing cores
8Gb Kingston Hyper-X DDR2 1066 RAM
2xLite-On sATA BD-RE drives
1xWestern Digital Raptor-X 150GB HD(OS), 1XWestern Digital Caviar 750Gb(Entertainment Drive), 1xWestern Digital Caviar 320Gb(Work Drive)
Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Platinum PCI 7.1 Sound Card w/ Creative Inspire 125Watt 7.1 Surround Sound Speakers
Ultra X3 1000Watt Modular Power Supply
All liquid cooled and wrapped up in a beautiful Kandalf LCS Super Tower(many custom mods)
1xSamsung Syncmaster 2333 23.6" 1080p LCD Monitor(widescreen of course), 1xSceptre X23G 22" Widescreen 1080P LCD Monitor

I love my geeky game/video creation.

Interested in what's the secret msg on Blue-ray with the unlocked TF as well

Bouncy X wrote:

Swiftknife24 wrote:People like me probably won't get the Blu-Ray, mainly because there is hardly an kriffing difference between Blu-Ray and DVD (on a Blu-Ray machine, DVDs and Blu-Rays look practically the same), except the humongous price tag.

The only reason I'd get a Blu-Ray is because they don't have the dual-layer pauses, however my movie collection is filled with DVD and I keep a tradition going! So Blu-Ray can sod off and come back in another fifty years! Only then will I think about it...

if you can't see a difference between the two then you've obviously never see a blu-ray movie properly displayed. i wont lie and say its an "OMG MY **** EYES ARE BLEEDING" type difference like some people try and claim but you'd have to be blind to not see the difference. i'm not a techie at all, my blu-ray players and tvs are just set to the manufacture settings and even that way blu-rays look much better than dvd. and as for the price, well at least over here blu-ray movies tend to be 2-5$ more than the dvd version. its not the almost 10$ difference it used to be just a few years ago. in some cases i've even seen a dvd be more expensive than its blu-ray counterpart.

and seeing that "i already have so many dvds" argument is getting sooooo old, my word. i'm not sure how where this idea that you HAVE to replace all your old movies came from but how retarded. of course you dont have to and you shouldnt. blu-ray players play dvd and they still look good and sometimes can even look better in a blu player. so of course you should keep your collection. double dipping is a personal choice, not an expectation or a requisite. i have well over 350 dvds and of course i'm not gonna rebuy them all on blu. i'm just buying blu from now on for releases i dont own.

i just dont get the blu-ray backlash (which is always from those who havent switched). if it doesn't interest you then let it go and move on. but to see these people constantly bitching anytime blu is mentioned somewhere...wow.

anyway my lil rant is over.

as for the actual release here, those are kick ass extras, even those who stick to dvd get a crapload of things so everybody wins.

Not true at all. I've got a beautiful Blu-Ray DVD player. The problem is it's too good of a machine. It upconverts regular DVDs so for the average consumer, there is little difference between watching the DVD version against the Blu-Ray version.

I did recently receive the Blu-Ray version of Transformers The Movie (1986) from Madman Entertainment in Australia. They sent me a promotional copy. Omigod, the movie is absolutely frikkin' beautiful. It's about as flawless as the movie will ever get. It's really the first movie where I've seen the regular DVD version and compared it to the Blu-Ray version and truly noticed a difference.

If I hook up my regular DVD player that does not upconvert the DVD, then yes, I can most certainly notice the difference.

If the DVD player companies did anything wrong as far as the Blu-Ray agenda goes, it's upconverting the old DVDs to look better on the newer DVD players. For most movies, I'm extremely content watching regular DVDs on my 56" DLP TV. If they really wanted to push us to watch Blu-Ray, they wouldn't have upconverted old DVDs. I'd rather save $10 per movie than spend $10 on something I can barely notice and doesn't really affect my movie watching experience.

I bought Dark Knight on Blu-Ray. Regretted it. Really wished I had bought it on regular DVD so that I can watch it on other TVs in my house. I think that's my biggest gripe about Blu-Ray. I don't plan on buying a Blu-Ray player for anywhere else in my house such as the master bedroom, my daughter's room (ok, she's only 4 months old now but you get my point), nor for my TV in the basement next to my gallery setup. I'd rather just have the regular DVD version so that I can watch a movie anywhere in my house.

I'm also a little hesitant about "investing" too much into owning Blu-Ray DVDs after getting burned on the HD DVD experience.

As for ROTF, I'll probably end up buying every version of it like I did with the first Transformers movie. Blu-Ray, 2-disc special edition ... whichever ones have different packaging. So the conversation is moot for me as far as ROTF goes, but I certainly understand where the regular DVD lovers stand.

Thanks, JRFitzpatrick7!

And thank *you* Seibertron!

And to you, Bouncy X, I have watched both Blu-Ray and DVD and hardly a difference on the Blu-Ray player, because, like Seibertron states, it's the Blu-Ray PLAYER; it does for DVDs what the PS2 does for PS1 games. In fact, I'm not a techie, either, but the Blu-Ray films that my Dad has have all these horrible little lines that appear around picture edges (yes, with all the right settings), so I have one valid point for preferring DVD at least; clarity.

By the way, the player in question is a virtually new £400 Sony and it locks up every now and then; crashes like a computer halfway through a film. Freezes dead. It's like all this converting to digital rubbish on TV. Digital channels provide rubbish, pixelated quality and they freeze every so often (digital is too young). Combine these two and this is the way we're heading? Joy...

Entertainment? No, it's kriffing annoying!

Anyway, that's MY rant over!

Swiftknife24 wrote:Thanks, JRFitzpatrick7!

And thank *you* Seibertron!

And to you, Bouncy X, I have watched both Blu-Ray and DVD and hardly a difference on the Blu-Ray player, because, like Seibertron states, it's the Blu-Ray PLAYER; it does for DVDs what the PS2 does for PS1 games. In fact, I'm not a techie, either, but the Blu-Ray films that my Dad has have all these horrible little lines that appear around picture edges (yes, with all the right settings), so I have one valid point for preferring DVD at least; clarity.

Sounds like something is wrong with your Blu-Ray player, to be honest. You shouldn't be seeing horrible little lines that appear around the picture edges.

Or maybe it has to do with how the player is hooked up to your HD TV. What kind of wires are you using to connect the player to the TV? Regular red/yellow/white AV wires, green/blue/red component wires with red/white audio wires, or HDMI wires? I'm using HDMI wires for all of my HD components and it all looks beautiful.

Swiftknife24 wrote:By the way, the player in question is a virtually new £400 Sony and it locks up every now and then; crashes like a computer halfway through a film. Freezes dead. It's like all this converting to digital rubbish on TV. Digital channels provide rubbish, pixelated quality and they freeze every so often (digital is too young). Combine these two and this is the way we're heading? Joy...

Entertainment? No, it's kriffing annoying!

Anyway, that's MY rant over!

Or perhaps something wrong with your digital TV. Do you have cable or satellite? I have HD TV through Dish Network and the quality is absolutely beautiful over regular channels on my big screen TV. Are you watching HD TV programming on an HD TV or on an old school TV? Seems like something might not be quite right if you're having this much difficulty with the newer technology.

Anyone else in Europe having the same difficulties as Swiftknife24?

I just purchased a blu ray player two weeks ago. The first movies I went out and rented were Transformers, Wall-e, Cars and Beowulf.

I think the quality really depends on the movie you are watching. Transformers was by far the biggest disappointment after seeing some of the Pixar stuff because it is very grainy. I wanted to see sleek, shiny Optimus Prime but instead the film is shot with the grainy look so it, imo, defeated the whole purpose. You can see a lot of posts on bluray.com that also scored the picture quality very low.

However I did notice that the audio was far better, even on my regular TV. I have seen the movie probably 10 times and I could hear little background sounds and voices far better than before.

The extra features were ok but really they just tell you in a very PC way of how much of an ass Michael Bay is to work with.

How come there isn't a featurette on about how **** bad this movie was, i mean come on there is all these special features about the behind the scenes and **** and the making of robots like if the movie was any good. In my opinion they should just sell the movie as a single disc because this movie is considered the worst movie of 2009

chevymantf wrote:How come there isn't a featurette on about how **** bad this movie was, i mean come on there is all these special features about the behind the scenes and **** and the making of robots like if the movie was any good. In my opinion they should just sell the movie as a single disc because this movie is considered the worst movie of 2009

Well, no one is saying that it was a masterpiece in film making, but it was fun to watch. Having said that, if you were just trying to douche-out to get a reaction, then I hope I satisfied your odd, little fantasy.

Try watching Transformers and The Dark Knight on a 120mhz tv.... You'll see a difference then
Saying there is no difference between Blu Rand dvd is just denial..Plain and simple..

I wonder which version is going to come with the Best Buy exclusive?.. Getting the Op bust is cool and a gift card to Sideshow collectibles($50?) and the movie for $50 usd is a killer deal. Especially when you have $10 bucks in reward certificates to use

LiKwid wrote:Try watching Transformers and The Dark Knight on a 120mhz tv.... You'll see a difference then
Saying there is no difference between Blu Rand dvd is just denial..Plain and simple..

I wonder which version is going to come with the Best Buy exclusive?.. Getting the Op bust is cool and a gift card to Sideshow collectibles($50?) and the movie for $50 usd is a killer deal. Especially when you have $10 bucks in reward certificates to use

We're not saying there's not a difference. We're just saying that the DVD upconverting makes regular DVDs a nice enough quality that the difference between regular DVD and a Blu-Ray DVD is minimal to the average consumer and not worth the extra $10 per disc.

I have to ask again ... how are you guys connecting your DVD / Blu-Ray players to your TV? Upconverting only happens with HDMI wires. If you have a DVD player hooked up to your TV with component or AV wires, you aren't viewing an upconverted image from your player so it's not even a fair comparison to Blu-Ray.

Seibertron wrote:

Swiftknife24 wrote:Thanks, JRFitzpatrick7!

And thank *you* Seibertron!

And to you, Bouncy X, I have watched both Blu-Ray and DVD and hardly a difference on the Blu-Ray player, because, like Seibertron states, it's the Blu-Ray PLAYER; it does for DVDs what the PS2 does for PS1 games. In fact, I'm not a techie, either, but the Blu-Ray films that my Dad has have all these horrible little lines that appear around picture edges (yes, with all the right settings), so I have one valid point for preferring DVD at least; clarity.

Sounds like something is wrong with your Blu-Ray player, to be honest. You shouldn't be seeing horrible little lines that appear around the picture edges.

Or maybe it has to do with how the player is hooked up to your HD TV. What kind of wires are you using to connect the player to the TV? Regular red/yellow/white AV wires, green/blue/red component wires with red/white audio wires, or HDMI wires? I'm using HDMI wires for all of my HD components and it all looks beautiful.

Swiftknife24 wrote:By the way, the player in question is a virtually new £400 Sony and it locks up every now and then; crashes like a computer halfway through a film. Freezes dead. It's like all this converting to digital rubbish on TV. Digital channels provide rubbish, pixelated quality and they freeze every so often (digital is too young). Combine these two and this is the way we're heading? Joy...

Entertainment? No, it's kriffing annoying!

Anyway, that's MY rant over!

Or perhaps something wrong with your digital TV. Do you have cable or satellite? I have HD TV through Dish Network and the quality is absolutely beautiful over regular channels on my big screen TV. Are you watching HD TV programming on an HD TV or on an old school TV? Seems like something might not be quite right if you're having this much difficulty with the newer technology.

Anyone else in Europe having the same difficulties as Swiftknife24?

We have a 46 inch viera plasma and the Blu-Ray is hooked up via a good quality HDMI cable. We don't have cable/sattelite TV, just analogue and digital. I have seen HD programming through a relatives satellite service and I do agree that that's the only way to watch HD, because it is sharper than Sideswipe!

Other than that, can't tell you much else, Seibertron!

Perhaps I need Energon...

I'm surprised to see so many people beating on Blu-ray. I've been watching blu-ray for over a year now, and the difference is always obvious. Unless you prefer digital distribution, I really see no reason in getting DVDs over Blu-ray. If I'm building up a movie collection I want the best quality. Most players play DVDs too, so I don't see a problem owning two formats.

Live action looks grainy because it's shot on film. If you want to see how much of a difference Blu-ray is, go look at Pixar films.

whoever has the most schwag with their BR is the one I'm getting. Target, wally, Suncoast/FYE or some other place if they can top them. If everyone's exclusives suck, I'll have my friend at Paramount buy it at the store.

Seibertron wrote:

Bouncy X wrote:

Swiftknife24 wrote:People like me probably won't get the Blu-Ray, mainly because there is hardly an kriffing difference between Blu-Ray and DVD (on a Blu-Ray machine, DVDs and Blu-Rays look practically the same), except the humongous price tag.

The only reason I'd get a Blu-Ray is because they don't have the dual-layer pauses, however my movie collection is filled with DVD and I keep a tradition going! So Blu-Ray can sod off and come back in another fifty years! Only then will I think about it...

if you can't see a difference between the two then you've obviously never see a blu-ray movie properly displayed. i wont lie and say its an "OMG MY **** EYES ARE BLEEDING" type difference like some people try and claim but you'd have to be blind to not see the difference. i'm not a techie at all, my blu-ray players and tvs are just set to the manufacture settings and even that way blu-rays look much better than dvd. and as for the price, well at least over here blu-ray movies tend to be 2-5$ more than the dvd version. its not the almost 10$ difference it used to be just a few years ago. in some cases i've even seen a dvd be more expensive than its blu-ray counterpart.

and seeing that "i already have so many dvds" argument is getting sooooo old, my word. i'm not sure how where this idea that you HAVE to replace all your old movies came from but how retarded. of course you dont have to and you shouldnt. blu-ray players play dvd and they still look good and sometimes can even look better in a blu player. so of course you should keep your collection. double dipping is a personal choice, not an expectation or a requisite. i have well over 350 dvds and of course i'm not gonna rebuy them all on blu. i'm just buying blu from now on for releases i dont own.

i just dont get the blu-ray backlash (which is always from those who havent switched). if it doesn't interest you then let it go and move on. but to see these people constantly bitching anytime blu is mentioned somewhere...wow.

anyway my lil rant is over.

as for the actual release here, those are kick ass extras, even those who stick to dvd get a crapload of things so everybody wins.

Not true at all. I've got a beautiful Blu-Ray DVD player. The problem is it's too good of a machine. It upconverts regular DVDs so for the average consumer, there is little difference between watching the DVD version against the Blu-Ray version.

I did recently receive the Blu-Ray version of Transformers The Movie (1986) from Madman Entertainment in Australia. They sent me a promotional copy. Omigod, the movie is absolutely frikkin' beautiful. It's about as flawless as the movie will ever get. It's really the first movie where I've seen the regular DVD version and compared it to the Blu-Ray version and truly noticed a difference.

If I hook up my regular DVD player that does not upconvert the DVD, then yes, I can most certainly notice the difference.

If the DVD player companies did anything wrong as far as the Blu-Ray agenda goes, it's upconverting the old DVDs to look better on the newer DVD players. For most movies, I'm extremely content watching regular DVDs on my 56" DLP TV. If they really wanted to push us to watch Blu-Ray, they wouldn't have upconverted old DVDs. I'd rather save $10 per movie than spend $10 on something I can barely notice and doesn't really affect my movie watching experience.

I bought Dark Knight on Blu-Ray. Regretted it. Really wished I had bought it on regular DVD so that I can watch it on other TVs in my house. I think that's my biggest gripe about Blu-Ray. I don't plan on buying a Blu-Ray player for anywhere else in my house such as the master bedroom, my daughter's room (ok, she's only 4 months old now but you get my point), nor for my TV in the basement next to my gallery setup. I'd rather just have the regular DVD version so that I can watch a movie anywhere in my house.

I'm also a little hesitant about "investing" too much into owning Blu-Ray DVDs after getting burned on the HD DVD experience.

As for ROTF, I'll probably end up buying every version of it like I did with the first Transformers movie. Blu-Ray, 2-disc special edition ... whichever ones have different packaging. So the conversation is moot for me as far as ROTF goes, but I certainly understand where the regular DVD lovers stand.

uhh... Dark Knight is like night and day in dvd and blu-ray. I am not someone who notices the difference normally but the Imax shots are more amazing on a normal tv on blu-ray than they were on a normal theatre screen. And yes I stand by that I saw it in theatres three times.