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Overall, G1 is better. The 2007 movie is far superior to the 1986 movie. The 1986 movie is a series of barely-connected scenes that make little sense, with some parts downright mystifying, bizarre and just plain stupid. Not to mention half the running time was, "Autobots run away!"

The 2007 movie was more coherent, with Autobots who actually fought back against the Decepticons! Seriously, Bumblebee probably kicked more aft by himself than the entire 1986 cast barring Prime's charge!

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Overall, G1 is better. The 2007 movie is far superior to the 1986 movie. The 1986 movie is a series of barely-connected scenes that make little sense, with some parts downright mystifying, bizarre and just plain stupid. Not to mention half the running time was, "Autobots run away!"

The 2007 movie was more coherent, with Autobots who actually fought back against the Decepticons! Seriously, Bumblebee probably kicked more aft by himself than the entire 1986 cast barring Prime's charge!

I agree with your little quip about the Autobots seeming to be in a perpetual state of retreating. It didn't always make the most sense in the tactical sense; I suppose you have to look at it like this: It being a movie, the premise is trying to stray away from the "same old places, same old faces" found in the regular series. i.e. Unicron is a galaxy spanning threat, the Autobots are retreating so we can be introduced to the Quintessons, the Junkions, etc.

What parts did you find mystifying, bizarre, or just plain stupid though? And you can't say Wheelie!

I grew up with the cartoon so I enjoy it, but I also enjoy the live action movies. both incarnations have their flaws. As long as it transformers I love it.!

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Overall, G1 is better. The 2007 movie is far superior to the 1986 movie. The 1986 movie is a series of barely-connected scenes that make little sense, with some parts downright mystifying, bizarre and just plain stupid. Not to mention half the running time was, "Autobots run away!"

The 2007 movie was more coherent, with Autobots who actually fought back against the Decepticons! Seriously, Bumblebee probably kicked more aft by himself than the entire 1986 cast barring Prime's charge!

I agree with your little quip about the Autobots seeming to be in a perpetual state of retreating. It didn't always make the most sense in the tactical sense; I suppose you have to look at it like this: It being a movie, the premise is trying to stray away from the "same old places, same old faces" found in the regular series. i.e. Unicron is a galaxy spanning threat, the Autobots are retreating so we can be introduced to the Quintessons, the Junkions, etc.

What parts did you find mystifying, bizarre, or just plain stupid though? And you can't say Wheelie!

Oh, I don't need to say Wheelie. I can say him, but I don't need to.

Basically, everything from the Autobots leaving the City to Unicron-hell, Unicron himself is bizarre and mystifying, as he suddenly appears with no explanation or foreshadowing in the show and BAM! He eats a planet. Then goes to threaten Cybertron. While being afraid of the Matrix... for some reason. Which also shows up out of the blue.

Also, the Planet of Junk, that stupid musical number and Quintessa.

The new movies because they look cooler. Oh, and the score sounds cooler too.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Overall, G1 is better. The 2007 movie is far superior to the 1986 movie. The 1986 movie is a series of barely-connected scenes that make little sense, with some parts downright mystifying, bizarre and just plain stupid. Not to mention half the running time was, "Autobots run away!"

The 2007 movie was more coherent, with Autobots who actually fought back against the Decepticons! Seriously, Bumblebee probably kicked more aft by himself than the entire 1986 cast barring Prime's charge!

I agree with your little quip about the Autobots seeming to be in a perpetual state of retreating. It didn't always make the most sense in the tactical sense; I suppose you have to look at it like this: It being a movie, the premise is trying to stray away from the "same old places, same old faces" found in the regular series. i.e. Unicron is a galaxy spanning threat, the Autobots are retreating so we can be introduced to the Quintessons, the Junkions, etc.

What parts did you find mystifying, bizarre, or just plain stupid though? And you can't say Wheelie!

Oh, I don't need to say Wheelie. I can say him, but I don't need to.

Basically, everything from the Autobots leaving the City to Unicron-hell, Unicron himself is bizarre and mystifying, as he suddenly appears with no explanation or foreshadowing in the show and BAM! He eats a planet. Then goes to threaten Cybertron. While being afraid of the Matrix... for some reason. Which also shows up out of the blue.

Also, the Planet of Junk, that stupid musical number and Quintessa.

Oh the Matrix is definitely a MacGuffin. But at least they explain that it is passed down from leader to leader. Unicron, although a very imposing and visually intimidating villain could have used a bit more backstory in the movie, I agree. Like when Galvatron first tried to open the Matrix against him... that would have been a perfect time for some exposition. "You dare try to open the Matrix against me... I sent your God into hiding!"

I liked the Bay movies but will always prefer the 86 movie.

Two of my reasons
The 86 movie was about the ROBOTS.. Very little human involvement other than Daniel and Spike's small part.
80's nostalgia (it has been mentioned before.. nuff said)

Well, I don't mind humans in Transformers. Actually, some of my favorite scenes/moments are the Transformers interacting with humans. And the 2007 humans, for the most part, I loved. I really did.

As for nostalgia, I saw the '86 movie in theaters. I remember it fondly. But I won't let nostalgia filters blind me to its flaws.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Well, I don't mind humans in Transformers. Actually, some of my favorite scenes/moments are the Transformers interacting with humans. And the 2007 humans, for the most part, I loved. I really did.

As for nostalgia, I saw the '86 movie in theaters. I remember it fondly. But I won't let nostalgia filters blind me to its flaws.

It's cool to see the Transformers interacting with the humans but the problem manifests itself through the egregious amounts of exposure to the human cast, especially when it's just used for cheap toilet humor or [insert latest military official here] bickering with Optimus Prime and not much else.

Hm, well I have to say the movies because they are what got me into TransFormers in the first place.
Though I was always a little bit of a fan (literally, as I was what...2? When Beast Wars came out), and throughout my growing up, the Unicron Trilogy Toys always interested me. The movies were what got me to actually research and get into the franchise though.

Plus at the time (and still) my favorite series was Bionicle, and what with the argument that Movie guys look like Bionicles, I preferred the Movie look to G1 as well.