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diablien wrote:So let me pose a question:
Does being released as a USA edition in Japan constitute a new release if the figure is identical, packaging-wise and figure-wise, to the USA Cybertron release?

And who is the manufacturer at that point? Hasbro or Takara?
Keep in mind Hasbro probably manufactured the piece, but Takara released it...

It's a new release for Japan, if not the US, so I suppose it's still news. Just not very big or important news. Why is this important at all?

You said yourself Hasbro manufactured them. USA Editions are essentially official imports, through whatever deal Hasbro and Takara work out. When the old Hasbro store imported BW2 and BW Neo figures, slapping the plain white Hasbro sticker on them, it didn't change the fact that they were still Takara figures.

Chosen wrote:Don't remember if Dark Crumplezone was or not.

As he was a remold, you can be sure Takara did him first (and Im pretty sure I've seen the Takara version available online). With the last line I dont think any remolding (of new or existing figs) was done by Hasbro, only Takara (which then by n large went on to be sold by Hasbro too, Hasbro's Armada repaints I beleive went on to be USA Editions in Japan).

Redimus wrote:

Chosen wrote:Don't remember if Dark Crumplezone was or not.

As he was a remold, you can be sure Takara did him first (and Im pretty sure I've seen the Takara version available online). With the last line I dont think any remolding (of new or existing figs) was done by Hasbro, only Takara (which then by n large went on to be sold by Hasbro too, Hasbro's Armada repaints I beleive went on to be USA Editions in Japan).

Actually there was no Galaxy Force release of Arm Bullet (Dark Crumplezone) released in Japan. The mold was released only in the Cybertron line.

Air Commander Starscream wrote:

Redimus wrote:

Chosen wrote:Don't remember if Dark Crumplezone was or not.

As he was a remold, you can be sure Takara did him first (and Im pretty sure I've seen the Takara version available online). With the last line I dont think any remolding (of new or existing figs) was done by Hasbro, only Takara (which then by n large went on to be sold by Hasbro too, Hasbro's Armada repaints I beleive went on to be USA Editions in Japan).

Actually there was no Galaxy Force release of Arm Bullet (Dark Crumplezone) released in Japan. The mold was released only in the Cybertron line.

I stand corrected. Is that cuase of his relativly late in the day apearence in the show? (Much like what happened with some of the Giant tfs)?

Redimus wrote:

Air Commander Starscream wrote:

Redimus wrote:

Chosen wrote:Don't remember if Dark Crumplezone was or not.

As he was a remold, you can be sure Takara did him first (and Im pretty sure I've seen the Takara version available online). With the last line I dont think any remolding (of new or existing figs) was done by Hasbro, only Takara (which then by n large went on to be sold by Hasbro too, Hasbro's Armada repaints I beleive went on to be USA Editions in Japan).

Actually there was no Galaxy Force release of Arm Bullet (Dark Crumplezone) released in Japan. The mold was released only in the Cybertron line.

I stand corrected. Is that cuase of his relativly late in the day apearence in the show? (Much like what happened with some of the Giant tfs)?

That is correct Galaxy Force also did not have a release for Moledive (Menasor) or Blender (Mixmaster). Though suposedly E Hobby released them as USA editions.

Another interesting thing is that Galaxy Force Dark Ligerjack was a Japanese TRU exclusive.