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Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby TurboMMaster » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:43 pm

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Did you belive that Galvatron's origin supposed to beign important in Transformers 5? He is in many way unique. Firstly, he is a living Cybertronian with calculating mind and free will, yet he has no spark. Also, he is made from Transforium, that gives him unique biology. Thanks to this, he have a lot of uncommon abilities, like changing into cloud of floating metal or giving some kind of life to drones. So he could be consider a anomaly. I think they should consider this in next movi'se plot.

For example, lack of spark could made him some kind of Bayverse Fry, this could make him immune to most of Quintessons special weapon (they could use spark extractors, right?). And the fact that now he had a lot of Transforium in him could grant him some kind of healing factor, or gave him ability to use multiple alt modes at once (Like Megatron in RiD)
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby Archanubis » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:46 pm

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TurboMMaster wrote:Did you belive that Galvatron's origin supposed to beign important in Transformers 5? He is in many way unique. Firstly, he is a living Cybertronian with calculating mind and free will, yet he has no spark.

Personally, I not sure Galvatron is entirely "sparkless" considering Megatron downloaded himself into Galvatron's body. Yeah, they mention that is his consciousness in Galvatron, and their sparks contain a part of that, so unless it's still floating around inside his old head (which would be kinda silly considering KSI still has access to it - unless the 'bots destroyed it during their rampage), I think Galvy's got a spark in him. The whole "you have no soul" thing comes from the comment Prime made when he thought Galvatron was nothing more than a KSI drone.

Also, he is made from Transforium, that gives him unique biology.

Technically, all the Cybertronians are made of Transformium, which is why KSI was melting Ratchet down; they were after his metal.

Thanks to this, he have a lot of uncommon abilities, like changing into cloud of floating metal or giving some kind of life to drones. So he could be consider a anomaly. I think they should consider this in next movi'se plot.

If they retain it; Galvatron may make some modifications to himself between films so he can transform more like a normal Cybertronian. We'll know in two years time.

...or gave him ability to use multiple alt modes at once (Like Megatron in RiD)

Well, if Drift is a triple changer, there's no reason Galvatron couldn't give himself more than one vehicular mode - or animal mode, even. That KSI pixel transformation could also give them the excuse to bend the "no mass shifting" rule even further.
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby TurboMMaster » Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:24 am

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Archanubis wrote: Yeah, they mention that is his consciousness in Galvatron, and their sparks contain a part of that, so unless it's still floating around inside his old head (which would be kinda silly considering KSI still has access to it - unless the 'bots destroyed it during their rampage),
I belive that Megatron's head was later melted and used to creation of Galvatron, just like the rest of his body.
Archanubis wrote:Personally, I not sure Galvatron is entirely "sparkless" considering Megatron downloaded himself into Galvatron's body.
He downloaded his mind, not spark.
Archanubis wrote:I think Galvy's got a spark in him. The whole "you have no soul" thing comes from the comment Prime made when he thought Galvatron was nothing more than a KSI drone.
The question is, why Prime talked to mindless drone :lol: ?
Archanubis wrote:If they retain it; Galvatron may make some modifications to himself between films so he can transform more like a normal Cybertronian. We'll know in two years time.
What for?
Archanubis wrote:Technically, all the Cybertronians are made of Transformium, which is why KSI was melting Ratchet down; they were after his metal.
Propably they aren't entirely made of it. Otherwise, all of them would be like Galvy. I think that Transformers are formed from both Transforium and other, more ordinary metals. And since Megatron's body had full of scrap parts taken from other Transformers, they gave him a lot of Transforium, to recreate missing parts.
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:10 pm

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This has to be my favorite incarnation of Galvatron. He's a significant upgrade from Megatron instead of just a lateral move or the "I'm a different color so I guess I'll change my name" Galvatrons we usually get. Having no spark and transforming in particle clouds makes him nearly invincible. Plus he did it himself while he was mostly dead, that's some serious villain bad-assery.

There's a lot they could do with him and I'm eager to see what they come up with.
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby Deathastator2212 » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:38 am

I personally think that Megatron (and now Galvatron) is one of the best villains in Sci-fi movie history ever!

He is so differenmt in every movie:
1 Leader of the Decepticons and main danger throughout the movie.
Transformation: Loved it.
2 Apprentice (named by Fallen) of the Fallen.
Transformation: Loved the Blitzwing tank/aircraft, put very unclear onscreen.
(Though seeing Galvatron being Unicron's slave in G1, it was a little weird seeing Megatron being someone's apprentice, though.)
3 Solo leader of the Decepticons again, and heavily handicapped working together with Autobot Leader Sentinel Prime.
Transformation: Very suitable. Loved the cape/hood.
4 Reincarnated as a totally new kind of Transformer thanks to the help of humans.
Transformation: Less awesome. Loved the scene on the road where he starts talking to Prime.
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby RSDADDIMUS2 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:28 pm

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I think he should should stay the way he is now,being entirely made of Transformium,one of a kind.
He may not have a soul,which makes him more deadly.
I also agree with whomever said the Transformers weren't all transformium. That would indeed make all Transformers like Galvatron. I personally didn't like the flying partical part,but I'm ok if Galvatron has it because it makes him different.
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby skidflap » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:12 pm

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RSDADDIMUS2 wrote:I think he should should stay the way he is now,being entirely made of Transformium,one of a kind.
He may not have a soul,which makes him more deadly.
I also agree with whomever said the Transformers weren't all transformium. That would indeed make all Transformers like Galvatron. I personally didn't like the flying partical part,but I'm ok if Galvatron has it because it makes him different.


I was one of the few that liked the FPT, (flying partical transformation) because it shows the difference between real transformers and man made machines. Plus its one of those "out there" concepts that works so well. :michaelbay:
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby TulioDude » Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:38 pm

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Archanubis wrote:
TurboMMaster wrote:Did you belive that Galvatron's origin supposed to beign important in Transformers 5? He is in many way unique. Firstly, he is a living Cybertronian with calculating mind and free will, yet he has no spark.

Personally, I not sure Galvatron is entirely "sparkless" considering Megatron downloaded himself into Galvatron's body. Yeah, they mention that is his consciousness in Galvatron, and their sparks contain a part of that, so unless it's still floating around inside his old head (which would be kinda silly considering KSI still has access to it - unless the 'bots destroyed it during their rampage), I think Galvy's got a spark in him. The whole "you have no soul" thing comes from the comment Prime made when he thought Galvatron was nothing more than a KSI drone.

Interresting interpretion,have't though of that before.

Archanubis wrote:
Also, he is made from Transforium, that gives him unique biology.

Technically, all the Cybertronians are made of Transformium, which is why KSI was melting Ratchet down; they were after his metal.

I also got that impression,that Transformium was just the name that humans gave to cybertronian metal league.

I think Galvatron will be major threat in the future.Who knows?
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby RSDADDIMUS2 » Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:54 pm

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Although it's not clearly stated,I don't think a Transformer is entirely made of Transformium. I think they have solid chasis,and certain parts are made of Transformium,while other parts slide and shift to compensate transformation.I'm also starting to think each bot is programmed for certain tasks,Like Ratchet was programmed to be a "Medical Officer" while Ironhide was programmed to be a "Soldier". That is why I also think when Prime grabbed the sword in AOE,it gave him another program so he could "Upgrade" to his flying Knight form. :-B
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby chivesbot20 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:17 am

Good idea but i think transformium is there and we just don't see it. So the parts that shape and shift all consist of it, but we can't see it. KInd of like cells, they make up our body and do lots for us but we can only see them under a microscope.
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby Sub-Prime » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:24 am

skidflap wrote:
RSDADDIMUS2 wrote:I think he should should stay the way he is now,being entirely made of Transformium,one of a kind.
He may not have a soul,which makes him more deadly.
I also agree with whomever said the Transformers weren't all transformium. That would indeed make all Transformers like Galvatron. I personally didn't like the flying partical part,but I'm ok if Galvatron has it because it makes him different.


I was one of the few that liked the FPT, (flying partical transformation) because it shows the difference between real transformers and man made machines. Plus its one of those "out there" concepts that works so well. :michaelbay:



Me and you are on the same field about this. I keep telling people that the humans wanted to push the KSI bots to be more superior than a regular Cybertronian. That's why I couldn't hate the new transformations!
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby Sub-Prime » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:28 am

Also all Transformers are made of Transformium but the difference is the humans pushed the biology to another level with a little help from Megatron. That's why some people are so confused about this movies plot. It might take some folks 5-7 times watching AOE to understand certain things. That's why the critics hated this movie because they are slow as hell so they label everything "INCOMPREHENSIBLE"
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby RSDADDIMUS2 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:37 am

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Hrrrmm,maybe they made it confusing so that people like me have to watch it multiple times!! ;)
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby Superwheeljack » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:54 pm

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I think while Megatron attempted to live through Galvatron, he instead just cloned himself. While that may be effective, Galvatron could be an entirely different person. Sure he has Megatron's memory, but Galvatron probably would react to a situation differently than how Megatron would.
This Galvatron has to be my favorite iteration. I think while he may have Megatron's memory, he isn't 100% Megatron.
He's also not like The Unicron Triology where Megatron just splashed paint on himself and called himself a new name while being the EXACT SAME GUY.
Sub-Prime wrote:Also all Transformers are made of Transformium but the difference is the humans pushed the biology to another level with a little help from Megatron. That's why some people are so confused about this movies plot. It might take some folks 5-7 times watching AOE to understand certain things. That's why the critics hated this movie because they are slow as hell so they label everything "INCOMPREHENSIBLE"

Clearly those "critics" are amateur guys. I've seen more films where you don't even know what the hell is going on.
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby RSDADDIMUS2 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:09 pm

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Superwheeljack wrote:I think while Megatron attempted to live through Galvatron, he instead just cloned himself. While that may be effective, Galvatron could be an entirely different person. Sure he has Megatron's memory, but Galvatron probably would react to a situation differently than how Megatron would.
This Galvatron has to be my favorite iteration. I think while he may have Megatron's memory, he isn't 100% Megatron.
He's also not like The Unicron Triology where Megatron just splashed paint on himself and called himself a new name while being the EXACT SAME GUY.
Sub-Prime wrote:Also all Transformers are made of Transformium but the difference is the humans pushed the biology to another level with a little help from Megatron. That's why some people are so confused about this movies plot. It might take some folks 5-7 times watching AOE to understand certain things. That's why the critics hated this movie because they are slow as hell so they label everything "INCOMPREHENSIBLE"

Clearly those "critics" are amateur guys. I've seen more films where you don't even know what the hell is going on.



I feel the same way about the G1 movie Megatron/Galvatron. Although they are "The Same Guy",they were different,especially in season 3,where Galvatron was as mad as a hatter. I thought that was good.But,the AOE version is probably my favorite.
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby Superwheeljack » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:52 pm

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RSDADDIMUS2 wrote:
Superwheeljack wrote:I think while Megatron attempted to live through Galvatron, he instead just cloned himself. While that may be effective, Galvatron could be an entirely different person. Sure he has Megatron's memory, but Galvatron probably would react to a situation differently than how Megatron would.
This Galvatron has to be my favorite iteration. I think while he may have Megatron's memory, he isn't 100% Megatron.
He's also not like The Unicron Triology where Megatron just splashed paint on himself and called himself a new name while being the EXACT SAME GUY.
Sub-Prime wrote:Also all Transformers are made of Transformium but the difference is the humans pushed the biology to another level with a little help from Megatron. That's why some people are so confused about this movies plot. It might take some folks 5-7 times watching AOE to understand certain things. That's why the critics hated this movie because they are slow as hell so they label everything "INCOMPREHENSIBLE"

Clearly those "critics" are amateur guys. I've seen more films where you don't even know what the hell is going on.



I feel the same way about the G1 movie Megatron/Galvatron. Although they are "The Same Guy",they were different,especially in season 3,where Galvatron was as mad as a hatter. I thought that was good.But,the AOE version is probably my favorite.


Agreed, nice to see Galvatron like he was in the G1 film, not in the G1 cartoon.
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby TurboMMaster » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:59 am

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Superwheeljack wrote:I think while Megatron attempted to live through Galvatron, he instead just cloned himself. While that may be effective, Galvatron could be an entirely different person. Sure he has Megatron's memory, but Galvatron probably would react to a situation differently than how Megatron would.
I think you overinterpreted this. I don't think anyone consider this universe co complicated. Galvatron is Megatron, because it the only simple and effective answer.
Sub-Prime wrote:Also all Transformers are made of Transformium but the difference is the humans pushed the biology to another level with a little help from Megatron
Sadly, this next level is here only in theory. Pretty much all drones created by Galvatron were pathetic in combat. Battles with BBB and Optimus don't count, since good guys won all the time since RotF, no metter how pathetic thet are. Galvatron itself seems to be great upregade over RotF and DotM, but he still seems to be weaker than his first form. After all there is a difference between "Curb-Stomping Optimus completly" and "fighting with Optimus on equal terms." Also, as Galvatron he didn't used his new abilities in melee, witch is akward.
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby Cthulhunicron » Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:52 pm

TurboMMaster wrote:For example, lack of spark could made him some kind of Bayverse Fry, this could make him immune to most of Quintessons special weapon (they could use spark extractors, right?).


What the hell is a Bayverse Fry?
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Re: Galvatron's uniqueness

Postby TurboMMaster » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:22 am

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Cthulhunicron wrote:
What the hell is a Bayverse Fry?
You never heard about Philip J. Fry? I think that right now, Galvatron seems to be kinda him. Galvatron's lack of spark could give him similiar adventage in confrontations with Creators as Fry immunity to mind-based attacks. For example, Creators could use spark extractors, completly useless against Galvatron.
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