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Denyer wrote:

Grimshock wrote: As much as I'm upset with Lee, I'd rather he did TF's.

This is why people don't need to argue: it's easier and far more effective just to sit back and let you speak.

Geoff Senior IS my favorite Transformers artist. There's something so unique and special about his drawings. I am so impressed that his artwork has pretty much stayed the same over the past 20 years. I love what <i>appears</i> as the simplicity of his drawings and the cartoon type style. I tire of the over dramatic extremely complex designs that current artists seems to spill into their work. Perhaps that's why I like E.J. Su's art the best of the new crop ... he has an almost cartoon like style that reminds me of Senior's. Nick Roche is also growing on me ... especially after his Spotlight: Kup book. Same reason as E.J. Su and Geoff Senior.

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Denyer wrote:

Grimshock wrote: As much as I'm upset with Lee, I'd rather he did TF's.

This is why people don't need to argue: it's easier and far more effective just to sit back and let you speak.

Geoff Senior IS my favorite Transformers artist. There's something so unique and special about his drawings. I am so impressed that his artwork has pretty much stayed the same over the past 20 years. I love what <i>appears</i> as the simplicity of his drawings and the cartoon type style. I tire of the over dramatic extremely complex designs that current artists seems to spill into their work. Perhaps that's why I like E.J. Su's art the best of the new crop ... he has an almost cartoon like style that reminds me of Senior's. Nick Roche is also growing on me ... especially after his Spotlight: Kup book. Same reason as E.J. Su and Geoff Senior.

exactly, seniors style is way more complex than it looks. theres always little things going on in the scene ancillary to the story. one of my favourit images of his was the deaths heads / FF issue. theres a lovely scene where he materalises on the roof of the baxter building and a roof tile practically explodes behind him to reveal a blaster training on him. with everything else in the pannel so calm it imparted a real sense of kinetic dynamism

in fact i'd go so far to say hes the most dynamic style of all artists stil out there. don figs work is beautiful no mistake but sometimes his storytelling is hard to follow (the end confrontation between prime and thunderwing for example in stormbringer) and he cant match the sheer violence of seniors stuff. his G2 work still stands as some of the best. i mean jesus i FELT prime being eaten alive in issue 12

thank god he took this gig, i cant wait to get this.

Excellent. I look forward to the end of personal attacks and dishonest input.

Grimshock wrote:Excellent. I look forward to the end of personal attacks and dishonest input.

Grimshock wrote:Geoff Senior's art was the WORST. There's not a single TF artist I would rate lower. Even the Galvatron pic example is terrible. Co-creating Death's Head isn't an accomplishment either. It's another bad Furman decision. Legend? Respect? You gotta be kidding. As much as I'm upset with Lee, I'd rather he did TF's.

As do we all.

When people criticise Lee's art, they're usually pretty good at explaining, illustrating, adding examples, etc.

When people talk of lacking respect for him, they're generally referring to the on-record deception, defaulting on payments, ripping off people who might happen to be friends of theirs.

Whereas you seem to enjoy going off on tangents about people who are really very pleasant and law-abiding as if they'd deposited a dead puppy in front of you.

When Furman or Senior turn into deadbeats who defraud fellow creators or big themselves up as superstars at conventions, then might be an appropriate point to talk about lacking respect for them.

My lack of respect is completely based on talent. It is also why I'd rather see Lee draw. Despite his faults and the fact that there are several artists better, he is still a much better artist than Senior. Senior's art is so flat. I get no sense of the third dimension in his drawings. Just terrible.

Geoff's artwork is the best. He draws robots like they should be drawn without silly human style faces!