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Postby Predaprince » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:13 pm

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Went and saw it today.

Cage did a good job (as he should have being the fanboy that he is of it) and as I knew ahead of time seeing Eva and hearing Sam equals :grin: .

I was also impressed by Wes Bentley's performance of Blackheart. He's going up in the world of evil from suburban drug-dealer to killer demon.
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Postby TheMuffin » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:15 pm

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Going to see it tonight. But I'm going with low hopes so it can only impress me.
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Postby Pyramitus » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:22 pm

I just have a hard time wanting to go see a movie that the whole ending had to be reshot.
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Postby Predaprince » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:25 pm

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Zuko wrote:Going to see it tonight. But I'm going with low hopes so it can only impress me.


The only thing that disappointed me was when Blackheart kills a certain person, not a huge character so don't worry, and it is like no big deal to Johnny.

But, I'm not a fanboy of Ghost Rider (nothing against it, but not my cup of tea). I just knew the basics and was afraid walking in the theater that it would be too much like Spawn (because it is a similar type of anti-hero story) and I appreciated it and, after watching it, think that it held its own and didn't have too much similarities to any other hero movies.

In fact, I'm praying that they do a sequel.

Anyone nothing anything if they are or are not going to do a sequel?
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Postby Predaprince » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:29 pm

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Pyramitus wrote:I just have a hard time wanting to go see a movie that the whole ending had to be reshot.


Yeah, I guess when Cage has that last conversation with Fonda, it didn't seem like the way that situation would be or anything.
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Postby Bombus distinguendus » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:59 pm

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Postby The Happy Locust » Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:43 pm

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i'll be checking it out tomorrow. Surprisingly, my dad was the one who wanted to see it. and he doesn't even read comics. I can't wait!
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Postby DISCHARGE » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:08 pm

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So I got a 6 year old who is flamin' mad to see this this. Should I hold off and not take her. She did grow up watching Godzilla movies, and for some reason is just crazy about a guy with a flaming skull that rides a 'cycle.
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Postby Predaprince » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:40 pm

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DISCHARGE wrote:So I got a 6 year old who is flamin' mad to see this this. Should I hold off and not take her. She did grow up watching Godzilla movies, and for some reason is just crazy about a guy with a flaming skull that rides a 'cycle.


Well, it sounds as though she understands that this is a movie and, given that, I don't think anything in it will be frightening or adult.

I think the rating the movie has is just because of the fact that it is demons and their fighting and, hence, the PC police made sure it had that rating.
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Postby DISCHARGE » Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:22 pm

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Great! Now I just gotta hope it doesn't suck as bad as Daredevil.
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Postby CyberTooth » Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:10 pm

DISCHARGE wrote:Great! Now I just gotta hope it doesn't suck as bad as Daredevil.


It should be noted that the rerelease of Daredevil featured a much better edit of the overall movie as well as a substory which actually made the whole movie better.
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Postby DISCHARGE » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:31 pm

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Are you serious? More Daredevil crap to watch. God it was bad enough with the Electra spin off. At least they didn't make the whole thing an origins film. Of course none of Daredevil was as bad as Catwoman.
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Postby Faceful of Kitchen » Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:08 pm

overall i thought the movie was pretty decent, but i had a few problems with it aside from what's already been mentioned:

1) there's more of him riding around on his bike than actually, y'know, fighting evil and stuff.

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2) the three elemental fights were way too short, especially the first one. what they had was awesome, i just wish the fights had lasted a bit longer before he beat them.

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they totally just left the whole thing about him being wanted by the police for the murders (and the prison escape, i'd assume) hanging. maybe they intended it that way for a sequel, but it felt more to me like they just forgot to resolve it.
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Postby Caelus » Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:02 am

We went to see it tonight and loved it. I can see some of the complaints you guys are pointing out, but I think the pluses out weighed the flaws. My big disappointment was not getting to see his mentor fight.

And for reference, we're passingly acquainted with Ghost Rider - not fanatics. So it's definately still good if you aren't a die hard fan.


DISCHARGE wrote:So I got a 6 year old who is flamin' mad to see this this. Should I hold off and not take her. She did grow up watching Godzilla movies, and for some reason is just crazy about a guy with a flaming skull that rides a 'cycle.


Even if she's okay with the flaming skull part, I'd save it for DVD. The flaming skull may be kind of cartoony to a kid, but Blackheart is downright creepy, and what he does to people could give her some serious nightmares. Ergo, a smaller screen in a well lit, familiar room might be good...
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Postby TheMuffin » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:42 am

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Just got back from seeing it. Pretty good surprisingly. Some things bothered me though and they were glaring.

1. Ghost Riders lines were soooooooooooo cliche.
2. While I liked how they played off Blackheart I would have been even happier if we had seen a form similar to his comic version. The comic version is downright freaky looking and would have fit in well at the end.
3. The fights were pretty bad. I liked seeing the ole chain brought to good use but it was so little of buildup and then bam the guys were dead.

Theres a few other things but overall it was a much better movie than the theater cut of Daredevil. Plus Xarathos just having a ball when he was let loose was great.
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Postby Senor Hugo » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:51 am

Just got back from seeing it. The movie was awesome, nothing beats Nicholas Cage coming out to Crazy Train.

The lines and some of the scenes were corny, but it was awesome as hell.

The only things I didn't like was how Slade was built up to help Ghost Rider, then just ran off, also I was kind of angry that Vengeance wasn't in the film, yet he has a toy in the movie line(to which is attributed that he'll be a boss in the Ghost Rider movie video game, but it still sucks.)
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Postby Nightracer GT » Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:47 am

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Kind of dumb, but I still had a good time. Same complaints of everyone else concerning the fights.

I think the whole first twenty minutes should have been cut. It should have started with the prologue of Carter Slade, then the credits, then gone straight to Crazy Train and Nicholas Cage as the main character with a deep dark secret that only becomes clear as the movie goes on. That would have made it soooo much better. I hate being hit over the head with a 2x4 at the movies.

Also, he just should have been silent in Ghost Rider form. End of discussion.
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Postby Predaprince » Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:17 am

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You guys keep saying that the fights with the three Elemental demons were too short, I agree with the wind guy since he was wind, but what do you expect is going to happen when the Earth and Water demons are put on fire.

I still think it was a pretty good movie of the character and I am crossing my fingers for a sequel. It seems that things would get a lot better and some of the issues some of you bring up would be resolved.
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Postby Nemesis_Apoc » Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:30 pm

I saw it last night and had a great time. It was fantabulous. Honestly, I didn't go into the theatre with high expectations just because the main character has a freaking flaming skull for a head, and to be honest, I thought it would cheezy. There's really no good way to do a flaming skull as some things just don't transfer from comics to the big screen very well. I have to say that I was proven completely wrong. The only gripes I have about the movie are 1) I think it should have been more violent and given an R-rating just because the character is a violent character, like Blade and The Punisher (both of whom have an R-rated movie or 3). 2) I think there was too much comedic crap for a movie like this. Case in point, the fat goth chick doing the interview. I rest my case.
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Postby Predaprince » Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:47 pm

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Nemesis_Apoc wrote:I think there was too much comedic crap for a movie like this. Case in point, the fat goth chick doing the interview. I rest my case.


I agree with the goth chick interview part especially since it made me wonder why later when Johnny tries to tell Roxie about the creature he just says a creature. He was there and knew that she heard that talk from that girl; the lines there should have been written with him bringing that interview up.
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Postby Cyberstrike » Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:07 pm

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Nemesis_Apoc wrote:I think there was too much comedic crap for a movie like this. Case in point, the fat goth chick doing the interview.


Which could be actually be funnier if they didn't show it ever TV spot.
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Postby DISCHARGE » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:16 pm

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I gotta say, I didn't have great expectations, what with Marvels track record, but I thought it was pretty good.
The swath of destruction laid down by the Ghost Rider was, well, awesome. And the kid liked it too.
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Postby .op. » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:57 pm

Just got back from seeing it. I have to say that I really liked the movie. I sure hope that there is going to be a sequal to this.
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Postby TheMuffin » Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:02 pm

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On an off note I just finished watching the Wicker Man...I've never laughed harder in my life.

Seriously folks. Watch this then read the comments.

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Postby The Happy Locust » Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:55 pm

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I just got back from seeing the movie. I.LOVED.IT!

I agree with Senor Hugo's idea for a shorter cut of the intro, but It didn't hinder the movie as much as You'd think it would.
The path of destruction left by Ghost Rider's first ride (and the morning after look at it) was probably the single best shot in the film.

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