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Supreme Convoy wrote::BOT: I plan on seeing this... but I'm not expecting much. I liked Ghost Rider as a kid.

I think you'd enjoy it. and not expecting much is usually a good thing, it leaves you free to take it for what it is.

Just saw it last night. Amazing. Just one question: Where was Stan Lee. He makes cameos in the Marvel movies. I didn't notice him. Must have been a real subtle cameo.

AutobotJazz wrote:Just saw it last night. Amazing. Just one question: Where was Stan Lee. He makes cameos in the Marvel movies. I didn't notice him. Must have been a real subtle cameo.

He only get's cameo's in movies where he helped create the character.

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Bombus distinguendus wrote:
3: black heart. ok i thought the guy who played his human form was awsome....but when we was at the end and ann beefed up it would of been kewl if he looked more like his comic book version.

I was thinking the same thing.

That was actually the main reason I wanted to see Ghost Rider, to see if Blackheart took on his big demonic form. But alas, he did not, but they portrayed the character well enough for me to like it anyway.

The fights were too short, but they were pretty cool anyway. About those Demons, I take it they were created just for the film?

One thing I loved about the movie was the effects. I thought they were outstanding, and enjoyed Ghost Rider's flame going blue when he was expressing emotion.

One comment was made that the lines were cheesy. Well, I'm not a hardcore Ghost Rider fanatic, but based on what I read of Ghost Rider from the 90's, that's how he talked. Ghost Rider isn't the Beast or Spider-Man, and didn't to have much of a wit or vocabulary other than "Vengence!!!" Voice was perfect, and thought they captured the character of Ghost Rider very well. Also, I really thought the use of a shotgun was good, cause that homages Blaze when he doesn't have the Ghost Rider powers anymore.

Speaking of characters, what was up with the monkey's and jellybeans? Did Johnny Blaze or Dan Ketch ever express any interest in that respect in the comics, or was that just something added to the movie?

And Mephisto was done very well, heck, he even looked pretty right for a move representation.

All in all, not my favorite Marvel movie, but certainly higher on my list than The Hulk or Elektra(I REALLY like Daredevil), and hope the DVD has some good special features.

I'm looking forward to the sequal, even though that won't be for a couple years or so. I would expect Vengence to appear in that.

Duke of Luns wrote:I'm looking forward to the sequal, even though that won't be for a couple years or so. I would expect Vengence to appear in that.

They'd either go the vengeance route or have Jonny separated from Zarathos and trying to reunite in order to contain his power.

I noticed that they pretty much combined Johnny blaze and Danny Keitch's ghost riders for the movie, but I never realized how much more they added. I've been reading the original Ghost Rider comics and noticed a lot more nods. Examples, Carter slade was the night rider, a cowboy hero. There was a burning-head horse rider who was a bounty hunter sent after Johnny. The bike used in the movie is pretty much Vengeance's... etc. Wikipedia is your friend.

Awesome movie. Just a thought, did anyone else catch the Easyrider nod from Peter Fonda towards Johnny's americian flag gas tank?

I agree that the fights should have been longer. I guess they were there to show off how powerful the Ghost Rider is ,but the first and 3rd fights were so short and anti-climatic. I like the idea of lessening the beginning and making it more of a secret. Most of the dialog was mostly ok but the speech at the end was "Stan Lee esk" very over the top and IMO not fitting for a GR story.
I sort of had a problem with his stuff going really skull like and demonic ,but aparently it is in keeping with Vengence. I really have only read a few comics of the Johnny Blaze vrs and the early stuff for the early 90's vrs so I wasn't familar with Vengence.

BTW the guys that the Ghost Rider was sent against were nephilim not demons. They have one parent who is a human. Though depending on the source ,they are the demons not thier nonhuman parents, but I think that the movie was going with the them being different approach.

completely shameless, but I just have to show my fanaticism for the movie.

Liked the movie over all but not the invented "Nephilim". Kinda wanted better fights as a result. The last fight was fitting of the movies momentum and yes his closing lines are a bit of the Stan Lee experience (AKA non GR filler)