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RogueDeathangel wrote:

craggy wrote:

RogueDeathangel wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:I like how they say good toy retailer like it's not their fault nothing is getting out because shelves are stuffed with Bumblebees.

Perhaps that's because it actually isn't Hasbro's fault.

hmm...it's not Hasbro's fault that they've oversaturated the market for crappy yellow plastic?

It's not Hasbro's fault that retailers order way too much of wave 1 and don't order newer cases because they're waiting for the first lot to sell out. The reason they put so many Bumblebee's in a wave is because that's what retailers tell them that they want. Hasbro is in the business of selling toys, they will give retailers whatever they ask for so long as it makes them money. It's like how every wave of Marvel Legends/DCU Classics has to have a couple of "big name" characters in it - that is what retailers want because that is what sells.

Except they don't sell. Bumblebee has been clogging shelves since the RotF line and Hasbro is still putting out 4 Bumblebees for every other character. I think retailers would have noticed Bumblebee isn't selling by now. PRiD Bumblebee has been clogging shelves since day one and they're still putting him and his multiple repaints in every wave.

Do retailers like Asda and Argos really look at which figures sell? I can see people like TRU paying more attention but supermarkets wont will they?

Agreed on the 1x Vehicon being frustrating from a collectors perspective - but it's hardly a new discussion. We should all know by now that wave distribution doesn't take collectors into account - it's been discussed on the podcast & forums enough times how parents/children are the primary market.

The thing that frustrates me is that all I can find on shelves is the unwanted remnants of over-orders from wave 1. 'bees and Cliffys -everywhere-. Weren't we supposed to have wave 2 already? Instead, we get UK ebay auctions starting at £36 ($56) for Voyager PRiD Bulkhead and Starscream from a handful of scalpers! For that price, I may as well pay the extra £10-£15 and import the FE figs!

Also, if past experience is anything to go by - the fact wave 1 was over-ordered means that most retailers will probably drop the line after wave 2. It happened with Hasbro's 1st run at Marvel Legends and I can see it happening again with PRiD.

Ravage XK wrote:Do retailers like Asda and Argos really look at which figures sell? I can see people like TRU paying more attention but supermarkets wont will they?

Argos don't when i worked there they would get 1 or 2 cases then as they went down more or less would order a top up and you would find a few random packets here and there putting the deliverys away.

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Ravage XK wrote:Do retailers like Asda and Argos really look at which figures sell? I can see people like TRU paying more attention but supermarkets wont will they?

Argos don't when i worked there they would get 1 or 2 cases then as they went down more or less would order a top up and you would find a few random packets here and there putting the deliverys away.

I don't think the retailers get a choice, they just get sent 'stock' and everywhere I've been its the same story every time.

I remember asking in Woolworths (obviously a few years ago now) if they could order something in, that they'd sold out of. I was told that they just got sent stock. They knew the date of the delivery, but not what was in it and couldn't specifically request stuff.

I suggested that certain items might sell better in one part of the country than in another, and that it might be better for them to ship the stock to the places it was selling, rather than having shelves full of stuff no-one wanted. I got a look like I'd just explained string theory to a pokemon.

In unrelated news: Woolworths is now out of business.

Hasbro wrote:The Transformers Prime Deluxe wave 3 is due to appear in store in June/July this year and will be available from all good toy retailers.

Lying bastards.