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Re: Good News For UK TFP Collectors?

Postby Crosshairs » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:36 am

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I call BS on this until i see the figures IRL in my local Entertainer.
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Re: Good News For UK TFP Collectors?

Postby RogueDeathangel » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:07 am

Evil_the_Nub wrote:I like how they say good toy retailer like it's not their fault nothing is getting out because shelves are stuffed with Bumblebees.



Perhaps that's because it actually isn't Hasbro's fault.
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Re: Good News For UK TFP Collectors?

Postby craggy » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:20 am

RogueDeathangel wrote:
Evil_the_Nub wrote:I like how they say good toy retailer like it's not their fault nothing is getting out because shelves are stuffed with Bumblebees.



Perhaps that's because it actually isn't Hasbro's fault.

hmm...it's not Hasbro's fault that they've oversaturated the market for crappy yellow plastic?
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Re: Good News For UK TFP Collectors?

Postby RogueDeathangel » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:53 pm

craggy wrote:
RogueDeathangel wrote:
Evil_the_Nub wrote:I like how they say good toy retailer like it's not their fault nothing is getting out because shelves are stuffed with Bumblebees.



Perhaps that's because it actually isn't Hasbro's fault.

hmm...it's not Hasbro's fault that they've oversaturated the market for crappy yellow plastic?


It's not Hasbro's fault that retailers order way too much of wave 1 and don't order newer cases because they're waiting for the first lot to sell out. The reason they put so many Bumblebee's in a wave is because that's what retailers tell them that they want. Hasbro is in the business of selling toys, they will give retailers whatever they ask for so long as it makes them money. It's like how every wave of Marvel Legends/DCU Classics has to have a couple of "big name" characters in it - that is what retailers want because that is what sells.
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Re: Good News For UK TFP Collectors?

Postby crazyjeffy » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:47 pm

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crazyjeffy wrote:Good to see the former overlords gettin some love.

Buy please, Seibertron, can you change the galleries so that Knock Out is transformed properly? :( As in no sagginess? :( I realize it might be hard... but it's just painful to look at when he looks fathoms better properly transformed


That depends on your definition of "properly" transformed. He is properly transformed per his instructions in the picture in this news article. If you wish to have pictures of the popular "fan" transformation, I did that as well in Knock Out's gallery in addition to the way in which the instructions say to transform this toy. In fact, I did it a few different ways because none of them look right and other than the "official" transformation, none of them truly lock into place AND look right. None of them appear to be correct because it's not that great of a toy, unfortunately. It just comes down to a matter of personal preference. Do you want Knock Out's wheels to be in the "up" position, do you want the sides of the front of the car to hang down, do you want them to look like perky breasts, etc. Your pick. I think I went beyond the call of duty by representing all of the different fan transformations I could find via fan sites and YouTube two months ago when I did this gallery.


I see :/ I'm terribly sorry for the assumption lol I guess I was looking in the wrong places :/ Now I feel bad :( I'm just a little overzealous of the figure because it gets so much flak :(

But I do wish retailers would wise up and order less Bumblebee. I don't know about anyone else, but in Northern NJ theres pegs upon pegs of the Yellow Plague. I don't know why the retailers keep ordering them when it's obvious it's everything that isn't Bee is selling.
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Re: Good News For UK TFP Collectors?

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:01 pm

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crazyjeffy wrote:But I do wish retailers would wise up and order less Bumblebee. I don't know about anyone else, but in Northern NJ theres pegs upon pegs of the Yellow Plague. I don't know why the retailers keep ordering them when it's obvious it's everything that isn't Bee is selling.


That's the whole problem: Hasbro does not provide orders for individual figures, it merely provides whole cases containing a certain amount of figures (usually 8 for Deluxe). That's why we're always so eager to know the exact ratio of figures per case. The fact there were no less than 3 Bumblebees in Wave 1 and Wave 2 Deluxe case made infestations quite easy.
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Re: Good News For UK TFP Collectors?

Postby crazyjeffy » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:03 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
crazyjeffy wrote:But I do wish retailers would wise up and order less Bumblebee. I don't know about anyone else, but in Northern NJ theres pegs upon pegs of the Yellow Plague. I don't know why the retailers keep ordering them when it's obvious it's everything that isn't Bee is selling.


That's the whole problem: Hasbro does not provide orders for individual figures, it merely provides whole cases containing a certain amount of figures (usually 8 for Deluxe). That's why we're always so eager to know the exact ratio of figures per case. The fact there were no less than 3 Bumblebees in a Wave 1 Deluxe case made infestations quite easy.


I forget which wave has 0 Bees, but they need to get on that pronto.
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Re: Good News For UK TFP Collectors?

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:08 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
crazyjeffy wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
crazyjeffy wrote:But I do wish retailers would wise up and order less Bumblebee. I don't know about anyone else, but in Northern NJ theres pegs upon pegs of the Yellow Plague. I don't know why the retailers keep ordering them when it's obvious it's everything that isn't Bee is selling.


That's the whole problem: Hasbro does not provide orders for individual figures, it merely provides whole cases containing a certain amount of figures (usually 8 for Deluxe). That's why we're always so eager to know the exact ratio of figures per case. The fact there were no less than 3 Bumblebees in a Wave 1 Deluxe case made infestations quite easy.


I forget which wave has 0 Bees, but they need to get on that pronto.


Wave 3 had only 1 Bumblebee along with 2 of his retool hot Shot, but Wave 4 switches him out for, you guessed it, his Shadow Strike repaint, 2 per case.
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Re: Good News For UK TFP Collectors?

Postby craggy » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:10 pm

Seibertron wrote: Do you want Knock Out's wheels to be in the "up" position, do you want the sides of the front of the car to hang down, do you want them to look like perky breasts?



ummm...is this a test?
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Re: Good News For UK TFP Collectors?

Postby craggy » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:17 pm

RogueDeathangel wrote:
craggy wrote:
RogueDeathangel wrote:
Evil_the_Nub wrote:I like how they say good toy retailer like it's not their fault nothing is getting out because shelves are stuffed with Bumblebees.



Perhaps that's because it actually isn't Hasbro's fault.

hmm...it's not Hasbro's fault that they've oversaturated the market for crappy yellow plastic?


It's not Hasbro's fault that retailers order way too much of wave 1 and don't order newer cases because they're waiting for the first lot to sell out. The reason they put so many Bumblebee's in a wave is because that's what retailers tell them that they want. Hasbro is in the business of selling toys, they will give retailers whatever they ask for so long as it makes them money. It's like how every wave of Marvel Legends/DCU Classics has to have a couple of "big name" characters in it - that is what retailers want because that is what sells.


I understand the rationale for having big name characters in place in each wave. But...you're suggesting that it's not Hasbro's fault that they're putting more Bumblebees in each case/wave than consumers want. I don't see how this is what anyone wants. Okay, so Hasbro has made their initial, short-term money, by selling 87thousand Bumblebees. But they're not making any ongoing money, because retailers have those toys sitting on shelves for months at a time, taking up space that other, better selling products could be put in. The retailers aren't ordering more cases, unlike they would if the ratio per case of characters was more even, and all of the wave that got put out there sold at roughly the same speed.

If BB is all retailers want, then why not go DOTM-style and just ship full cases of That Yellow B@$^@&) and not make any new molds?
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