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News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:50 am

BBTS has just posted pre-orders for for new stuff by Guilty, this time it's "Cassettes" for your WFC/FOC collection.
Each set comes with one Autobot vs one Decepticon humanoid cassette
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/sear ... +Operation
There's also a set that contains all four of them.

by **JRFitzpatrick7** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:30 pm

Each set comes with different accessories for the bots as well:

Set A:

1A(with two guns)
1B(with two guns and two piledrivers)

Set B:

2A (with two guns and optional IDW headsculpt)
2B (with two guns and one melee weapon)

If you order the combined set you will receive in addition to what already comes with the sets:
one concussion blaster for FOC Soundwave

I'm thinking the IDW head will have Rewind's Camcorder attached.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:04 pm

More of Fakebusker's Shapeways Designs getting ripped xD

He's going to be releasing this via Zenith Forge w/ better plastic so I'd suggest not pre-ordering from Guilty.

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:I'm thinking the IDW head will have Rewind's Camcorder attached.

Yup

News Credits: 103 · by **Cyber Bishop** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:21 pm

Meh, with MP Soundawves cassettes available (Takara set if you just want them) the Rumble/Frenzy is not necessary.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:22 am

Blurrz wrote:More of Fakebusker's Shapeways Designs getting ripped xD

If these renders are accurate to the final product, then no they are not Fakebuster's. I had two of his Thugger kits and they are different from these renders, especially in the joints. Plus his body design is better than this.
But they're both based on the same design which is the design they had in the games, well Frenzy and Rumble.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:59 am

Dead Metal wrote:
Blurrz wrote:More of Fakebusker's Shapeways Designs getting ripped xD

If these renders are accurate to the final product, then no they are not Fakebuster's. I had two of his Thugger kits and they are different from these renders, especially in the joints. Plus his body design is better than this.
But they're both based on the same design which is the design they had in the games, well Frenzy and Rumble.

No, the Thugger was his first release for WFC Soundwave. Last year he released Rumble/Frenzy and Eject/Rewind for FOC Soundwave/Soundblaster/Blaster

https://www.shapeways.com/model/867883/ ... -quot.html
https://www.shapeways.com/model/848088/ ... Box-search
https://www.shapeways.com/model/848104/ ... Box-search
https://www.shapeways.com/model/848123/ ... Box-search

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:34 am

Blurrz wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Blurrz wrote:More of Fakebusker's Shapeways Designs getting ripped xD

If these renders are accurate to the final product, then no they are not Fakebuster's. I had two of his Thugger kits and they are different from these renders, especially in the joints. Plus his body design is better than this.
But they're both based on the same design which is the design they had in the games, well Frenzy and Rumble.

No, the Thugger was his first release for WFC Soundwave. Last year he released Rumble/Frenzy and Eject/Rewind for FOC Soundwave/Soundblaster/Blaster

https://www.shapeways.com/model/867883/ ... -quot.html
https://www.shapeways.com/model/848088/ ... Box-search
https://www.shapeways.com/model/848104/ ... Box-search
https://www.shapeways.com/model/848123/ ... Box-search

Oh OK, never knew he made Rewind and Eject or that he completely redesigned the Thugger kit. And it actually is the exact same thing as in these Guilty renders.
Never knew, since I lost interest after receiving my kits, due to not liking the Shapeways material. And being gone for almost a year.

Plus I knew that silhouette ZF showed a while ago was the Thugger, that will take care of all the complaints I had with the original kit.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:55 am

Yeah, the only good material you'd want from SW for this is Frosted Ultra Detail, but that's racking up to $40 US for one figure. $15 US for the Dejector/Thugmeister in Strong White and Flexible isn't too bad, but the guys are still pretty small.. a bit more bulkier than Thugger, but honestly if they are releasing this in ABS plastic for the general public, most people should probably just go with that (via Zenith).

by **JRFitzpatrick7** » Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:14 am

BBTS wrote:Hello,

We recently have listed several disc cassette preorders offered to us from the company 'Find Me Guilty'. We quickly learned of some controversy within the fan community about these designs and did further research and inquiries. We contacted Ariel / Fakebuster via the Shapeways website and have learned from him that he feels these designs are similar in too many ways to the design work that he had previously completed. We understand that most third party items are inspired by existing designs or artwork, but we have not heard this level of unrest from the fan community before.

We have decided to remove the Find Me Guilty Disc Cassette preorders from our website, and we will cancel all preorders. We apologize for any inconvenience, but we want to promote original designs and those who created them.

Ariel / Fakebuster has informed us that he hopes to bring these to mass production, and we assume that BBTS will be able to carry the authentic version of these figures after his production run is complete. We understand they will be using the Zenith Forge company name to release these.

Thank you for buying from BBTS, and we hope to be able to sell the Zenith Forge versions of these figures to you at a later date.

Sincerely,

BBTS Customer Care

Respect.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:27 am

They seem to have pulled Guilty's Seeker weapon sets from their listings as well. Thankfully I still have my set in my PoL. I'm thinking about switching to Dr Wu's offerings, but the idea of having something akin to contraband in my collection is tempting.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:51 pm

Finished mine today. Here's some scale if you guys need it,

by **JRFitzpatrick7** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:49 am

Blurrz those both look great! Hopefully the club can come close to that with their chromedome. If Zenith produces these guys in proper colords with some paint apps i'll get them all. Do they have an alt mode at all?

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:08 pm

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:Blurrz those both look great! Hopefully the club can come close to that with their chromedome. If Zenith produces these guys in proper colords with some paint apps i'll get them all. Do they have an alt mode at all?

They have an alt mode so you can sort of pseudo fit them into Soundwave/Blaster's chest. They won't eject via the gimmick but they fit inside.