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Rated X wrote:Is there something I am missing about Bumblebee that the younger generation finds so intriguing ???

Well yeah, they love him. He's the central character. Got any young kids of your own or even nephews/nieces? Have some, you may not understand what it is, but you'll see it in action.

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And this is where i'm knocking things on the head before they spiral out of control.

Knock it off now.

Bumblebee and OP are always going to be over-produced because of the focus group studies generally consist of only the intended age groups, (who seemingly prefer BB, probably because he goes "beep-boop") or their parents/guardians, (who aren't generally collectors and have no clue which one is which, they just remember which one their kids kept yammering on about).

Collectors and fans get no say about it; which is kinda dumb, considering the shear amount money people like Fansproject and TFC are currently rolling around naked in.

Seems logical: all those bonuses for the Hasbro Board of Directors aren't paying for themselves, people!

But seriously, although most toy producers will suffer in a time of economic uncertainty (unless you are Lego), Hasbro have themselves to blame. Although Transformers seem to still be one of the strongest sellers for Hasbro, the lack of new products / frankly TERRIBLE distribution of products will probably be comparable for all the other brands and products Hasbro are pushing.

It's been said before, but here in Europe, Hasbro seems fast to be losing ground as far as their product availability is concerned: very few of their brands can be found in toys stores here in any large amounts. Here in Europe, besides the 'single brand products' like Lego and Playmobile, Mattel has a much stronger multi-brand presence, as do Disney Consumer Products and lots of cheap Chinese produced no-name toys.

If I ran Hasbro, I'd most definitely be very disturbed at Hasbro's problematic distribution. It's all fine and good to focus on the US market, but when that market currently isn't very strong in the first place AND terrible mistakes are made on that single market (many of which have been mentioned in the previous posts in this topic), then Hasbro is just heading for disaster with their eyes wide open...

BTW... what is this topic doing in the Transformers Toy Review Forum?

Burn wrote:

Rated X wrote:Is there something I am missing about Bumblebee that the younger generation finds so intriguing ???

And this is where i'm knWell yeah, they love him. He's the central character. Got any young kids of your own or even nephews/nieces? Have some, you may not understand what it is, but you'll see it in action.

In my opinion that’s Michael Bays take on Bumblebee. His role has not changed in 28 years. Spike, Buster, Sam, Raf, etc. It really doesn’t matter who they pair him up with. It’s always been the same image for Bumblebee. But in the 80’s they didn’t promote the crap out of that image or his bond with a human boy. Bumblebee wasn’t even cool back in 1984, he was one step away from being Wheelie. Kids favorites were Optimus, Megatron, and Jazz.

Hasbro sells more Bumblebees because that's all they put on the shelf.

I don't know, I can only assume that if it is true that BB sells the best no matter what, that children have to be pretty retarded if they like army building their Bumblebees. Again, I was a kid once, yeah I was different, but back then I would have considered this stupid.

The problem is it just keeps getting worse. Three Bumblebees to a case of eight deluxes? They are going to shelf warm, we know this, and it shows that Hasbro is doing something wrong regardless of what their data says.

Vicalliose wrote:Hasbro sells more Bumblebees because that's all they put on the shelf.

I don't know, I can only assume that if it is true that BB sells the best no matter what, that children have to be pretty retarded if they like army building their Bumblebees. Again, I was a kid once, yeah I was different, but back then I would have considered this stupid.

The problem is it just keeps getting worse. Three Bumblebees to a case of eight deluxes? They are going to shelf warm, we know this, and it shows that Hasbro is doing something wrong regardless of what their data says.

I know this is getting a little off topic, but the reason I hate multitudes of BB on the shelves, is that the stores are reluctant to order more or put stock on the shelf. A wall of Bumblebees to a Walmart employ = stocked shelf, move on.

GetRightRobot wrote:I know this is getting a little off topic, but the reason I hate multitudes of BB on the shelves, is that the stores are reluctant to order more or put stock on the shelf. A wall of Bumblebees to a Walmart employ = stocked shelf, move on.

Actually pretty logical considering that the cases they order will just be full of more Bumblebees.

Vicalliose wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:I know this is getting a little off topic, but the reason I hate multitudes of BB on the shelves, is that the stores are reluctant to order more or put stock on the shelf. A wall of Bumblebees to a Walmart employ = stocked shelf, move on.

Actually pretty logical considering that the cases they order will just be full of more Bumblebees.

Well played.

Autobot032 wrote: 2a.) The Hub is on the most expensive tier of cable and satellite systems. Most adults, especially those with families, can't afford such an expenditure. Hell, most adults simply WON'T pay for such a thing. Kids? Impossible.

So, why make a network aimed at kids and familes...that most will never see? I'm sure some haven't even heard of it! I'd bet money that some of The Hub's audience comes from people who are on special packages that have a reduced rate for the first year, to entice you to become a consumer.

When that reduced rate ends after the first year and prices skyrocket back to their original, expensive rates...how many customers jump ship on that tier and head back to (medium) digital cable or basic? I'll bet you the number's a lot higher than we're led to believe.

The ratings for Prime sound pretty good at .5 million, especially for a premium cable channel. But they could be ridiculously better if they were on a tier that EVERYONE has access to. I mean, seriously, how much money would they lose if they put it at a lower price? I mean, Discovery's kickin' in some of the dough, so the burden isn't all on Hasbro's shoulders.

This reminds me. I should probably cancel my Mediacom this year. Any fellow Iowans reading? I'm trying to figure between Dish Network and Direct TV, also which internet/phone provider to go through.

Yes I realize how off topic I'm getting. But who needs to repeat the obvious? The American economy is in the toilet, we need to stop getting into so many wars, we need to stop giving tax breaks to companies for producing in China, etcetera. It's just a big clusterf**k. Also Hasblow sucks.

Vicalliose wrote:Hasbro sells more Bumblebees because that's all they put on the shelf.

I don't know, I can only assume that if it is true that BB sells the best no matter what, that children have to be pretty retarded if they like army building their Bumblebees. Again, I was a kid once, yeah I was different, but back then I would have considered this stupid.

The problem is it just keeps getting worse. Three Bumblebees to a case of eight deluxes? They are going to shelf warm, we know this, and it shows that Hasbro is doing something wrong regardless of what their data says.

It's already happening with Prime. I went to TRU today and there were 7 Bumblebees, 1 Wheeljack, and 1 Cliffjumper.