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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby Varia31 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:18 pm

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Still, I'll admit they actually look pretty cool. I'm loving the Megs and Soundwave, same with Optimus. The others are pretty neat too, I like Wheeljack. I may think about these...

Noideaforaname wrote:I bet these would be amazing custom fodder.

That's what I was thinking as well... Megatron has an awesome head sculpt.
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby Mindmaster » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:29 pm

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Bumblebee... as a Triple Changer? I think they're getting desperate now.

Could Blitzwing finally herald the coming of a Generations Blitzwing? :PRAY:
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby That Bot » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:48 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:Not one for Bionicles. Pass.

Bumblebee... as a Triple Changer? I think they're getting desperate now.

They are.

Could Blitzwing finally herald the coming of a Generations Blitzwing? :PRAY:

Don't hold your breath. >:oP
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby Caelus » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:49 pm

Hm, the triple changers (Megatron, Bumblebee, Blitzwing) don't use all of their parts in all of their modes (e.g., Megatron and Bumblebee do not have wheels in robot mode). That very nearly kills my desire to collect them.
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby Mindmaster » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:55 pm

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Caelus wrote:Hm, the triple changers (Megatron, Bumblebee, Blitzwing) don't use all of their parts in all of their modes (e.g., Megatron and Bumblebee do not have wheels in robot mode). That very nearly kills my desire to collect them.


Megatron isn't listed as a Triple Changer. He's an Ultra.
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby JOP » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:59 pm

Hot on the heels of "Kre-O" - Hasbro's answer to Lego, and "Kre-O Minis" - Hasbro's answer to Lego Minifigures - comes "Construct-Bots" - Hasbro's answer to Lego Bionicle.

Between Bot Shots, the shrunken and hollow "Generations" derived entire from Transformers: Fall of Cybertron, the mediocre simplicity of the upcoming Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters line and now this, quite frankly I have to ask: are Hasbro even still in the business of making transformable robot figures anymore?
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby That Bot » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:29 am

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JOP wrote:are Hasbro even still in the business of making transformable robot figures anymore?

Um....

JOP wrote:Bot Shots

JOP wrote:Generations

JOP wrote:Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters

Yes. All of those things you listed are transformable robot figures.
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby VioMeTriX » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:41 am

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JOP wrote:are Hasbro even still in the business of making transformable robot figures anymore?

Um....

JOP wrote:Bot Shots

JOP wrote:Generations

JOP wrote:Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters

Yes. All of those things you listed are transformable robot figures.



Nice sarcasm there. but i agree with JOP and its what ive been saying, unless we as fandom and more importantly money spending shoppers do something about this the trend downward will continue. how do we make a change? stop buying the sub par junk and stick with the better stuff we want. bot shots, the new bionical-ish crap, the smaller deluxes, the over priced voyagers. now i am not saying buy nothing at all... but if we could all gear ourselves towards buying better figures and let the rest sit on shelves, it will send a message. this is how companies work, they have analysts that say wahts selling and whats not and what direction to move in. right now we seem to be eating up the junk yet still complaining about it... time to send a message folks, and its up to each of you to decide what that message is. i am personally only buying mastepieces and alternity figures. i knows these are tailored to collectors and i cant expect hasbro to always cater to these lines, but i am letting them know i wont stand for the other stuff until the QC improves. the little mainline stuff i might buy will only be the best of whatever line i buy.


and That Bot, from the way youve responded to me, and now i see a few others... i guess you are the new local smartass... good job
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby quickmixed » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:49 am

Not my cup of tea but I must admit, some of those head sculpts are fantastic.
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:23 am

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As some have mentioned earlier, these make good kitbash fodder if nothing else. I can see kids loving these, though.
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby Henry921 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:49 am

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Guess the big boxed sets aren't selling well... if they ever were.

Still, between these and the blind packs and the gestalts, Kre-O has some interesting stuff and a good variety in the product. It's a niche audience who'll buy these, but I'll bet they sell better than the current crop.

Might get OP and Soundwave. Old collector's habits... >:oP
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:53 am

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Alright, that Blitzwing head looks awesome, and I'm sure it's a cool figure, but why OH WHY don't we have a classics/universe/reveal the shield/generations Blitzwing yet? At least this gives me some hope that we'll be getting one! :CON: :CON: :CON:

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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby That Bot » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:59 am

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VioMeTriX wrote:Nice sarcasm there. but i agree with JOP and its what ive been saying, unless we as fandom and more importantly money spending shoppers do something about this the trend downward will continue.

There is no downward trend. This is branching out. There are still two simultaneous lines of pure Transformers for you to choose from. Three if you include the plethora of residual DOTM. If you don't like any of the main lines, go back and fill in some old gaps in your collection from lines you did like while you wait for something new that you like to hit retail. Find another hobby. Do something productive. Don't just sit around and mope because this brand isn't the same as it was however many years ago. Companies change, and not always in the way we like them to. That's just life.
how do we make a change? stop buying the sub par junk and stick with the better stuff we want. bot shots, the new bionical-ish crap, the smaller deluxes, the over priced voyagers.

This is what you should always do anyways. Nobody is forcing you to like these things, or to buy them, or to worship at Hasbro's altar. Buy what you like. Don't buy what you don't like. Don't fret over this side merchandise if it doesn't strike your fancy.
now i am not saying buy nothing at all... but if we could all gear ourselves towards buying better figures and let the rest sit on shelves, it will send a message.

I think you're forgetting two important points:
* adult fans like us only count for a small percentage of sales
* kids are the target audience of this brand as a whole and make up the vast majority of sales
It's been demonstrated that kids love Bot Shots. Small, cheap, gimmicky things are in right now. Beyblade, Bakugan, Monsuno, and now Bot Shots. It's like the 2010s version of Pogs.

I don't know what the consensus is on Kre-O, but it must be doing something right since they keep pumping out new stuff. And since LEGO's Bionicle and Hero Factory lines of what are essentially constructable action figures continue to sell like hotcakes, Hasbro wants a piece of that pie too. If they've done focus testing and concluded that kids will like this stuff, then more power to them I say.

Again, by all means, don't buy things you don't like. Doing otherwise is silly. But try to remember our stake in the business. We adult fans are the vocal minority of this franchise. With the exception of Masterpieces, these toys are not made exclusively for us, they do not have to meet our absolute approval. Hasbro's philosophy is to make toys for kids and if adults like them, too, that's just Prime. Please don't try to give us more power than we have. I'm not saying that to be mean, I'm saying it out of sincere concern, because if you believe we have more power than we do, and things continue as they are, you will just find yourself more frustrated.
this is how companies work, they have analysts that say wahts selling and whats not and what direction to move in. right now we seem to be eating up the junk yet still complaining about it...

Again, kids buy this stuff, not just us. Bot Shots are selling well among kids, Hasbro continues to make them.

time to send a message folks, and its up to each of you to decide what that message is. i am personally only buying mastepieces and alternity figures. i knows these are tailored to collectors and i cant expect hasbro to always cater to these lines, but i am letting them know i wont stand for the other stuff until the QC improves.

Just a little correction, quality is different from quality control. I'm pretty sure you mean quality in this situation, not QC.

and That Bot, from the way youve responded to me, and now i see a few others... i guess you are the new local smartass... good job

It's true, I can be very snarky, but I'm usually well-intentioned and I can also be very eloquent like in this post.


I'd just like to remind everybody: the Transformers brand exists for one purpose and one alone: making money for Hasbro. Everything they do is towards that end. And their target audience is kids. As long as kids like what Hasbro is offering, there's no problem. If adult fans have problems, they may get addressed, but we aren't really that much concern to them. And because we are adult fans of a children's franchise, it's important that we remember that we don't get much say in the direction the franchise goes in, because again, we're outside the target audience and contribute little to the bottom line. Sure, you may think these building sets are ugly and a waste of plastic, but maybe to someone in the target audience they're the coolest thing ever. This doesn't make your opinion invalid, but it's always important to keep it in perspective.
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby Manterax Prime » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:01 am

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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby VioMeTriX » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:36 am

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it is funny that hasbro doesnt realize most adult collectors are parents, and we buy toys for our kids, and my son even realizes the value of not buying crap figures....hasbro doesnt do everything to make money... if so we wouldnt have enough bumblebees on shelves to create a floating island to live on... i know thats far fetched, but damn dont you see that same yellow hell on all of the shelves the last few years or so.

but i know when my child spends my money or even his own, i am making sure as a responsible parent that money is spent wisely on a lasting toy, no matter the brand.

That Bot, your answer rings true, but not absolute, just as my view shouldnt be an absolute either. but there are things we can do. again the majority of transformers kids should have a significant number of transformer collecting parents (dads)... so lets come together as a community, and see what small things we can do as a whole to have an impact on what hasbro does as far as transformers lines, and the quality of figures over all. i am fully aware of trending and gimmicks, but the only gimmick transformers really need is intuitive transformations, good story, and a good product for a fair price...

My friend David is an area rep for hasbro (and my assurance i get the figures i want) also agrees the quality has come down and price has gone up. hes not sure what to do.
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby kirbenvost » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:18 am

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Maybe Hasbro's noticing that quality has been lacking. I know some don't agree but I feel a lot of the stuff they're showing off lately seems a bit nicer even if it isn't in line with what I want to collect. DOTM and PRID (*cough* and FOC Bruticus) were low points for Transformers, hopefully it's uphill from here.

Off-topic, but That Bot... I know you're someone, but who? I keep getting confused when people change their usernames. Where's Counterpunch, for that matter? :lol:

Yeah, first thing that came to mind was Bionicle/Hero Factory. They look kind of nice but I'll pass, I don't need them. Kreons fill my desire for silly buildable TFs quite nicely. Glad to see a Blitzwing, I hope we get a real one soon.
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby VioMeTriX » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:52 am

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kirbenvost wrote:Maybe Hasbro's noticing that quality has been lacking. I know some don't agree but I feel a lot of the stuff they're showing off lately seems a bit nicer even if it isn't in line with what I want to collect. DOTM and PRID (*cough* and FOC Bruticus) were low points for Transformers, hopefully it's uphill from here.

Off-topic, but That Bot... I know you're someone, but who? I keep getting confused when people change their usernames. Where's Counterpunch, for that matter? :lol:

Yeah, first thing that came to mind was Bionicle/Hero Factory. They look kind of nice but I'll pass, I don't need them. Kreons fill my desire for silly buildable TFs quite nicely. Glad to see a Blitzwing, I hope we get a real one soon.



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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby noctorro » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:55 am

They should've made these right from the start. I said it before Slizers/Roboriders/Bionicle concept is great for Transformers!


I do think they transform without reassembling the whole thing. Maybe put of 4 wheels or 2 wings but nothing more than that.
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby Janus Prime » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:21 am

Wow! These make Kre-O look like msterpieces, but I totally see myself buying some sets just to get a specific piece.
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby JOP » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:24 am

That Bot wrote:Yes. All of those things you listed are transformable robot figures.

I will be the first to admit that I should have added the qualifiers 'complex' and 'high quality' to my comment about Hasbro and their production of transformable robot figures (or lack thereof). To be fair, I did not anticipate that someone might interpret the latter half of the sentence in a completely literal fashion, while also choosing to utterly disregard the earlier half of the sentence in which I criticize the Fall of Cybertron figures for their comparatively diminutive size and low material to cost ratio, and the Beast Hunters figures for their ridiculously reductive transformations.

I would like to take the opportunity to thank you for bringing this problem to my attention, and to inform you that going forward, I will attempt to structure my statements so that they are less open to willful misinterpretation by the sarcastically inclined.
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby VioMeTriX » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:40 am

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JOP i aplaud you for your effort, just remember a good portion of the fandom need kindergarten explanations... they take everything literally and cannot formulate meaning by the entire sentence or statement structure... it helps if you use brakets to explain what every word means, with links to their dictionary definition. may not hurt to spell phonetically too.

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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby That Bot » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:14 pm

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kirbenvost wrote:Off-topic, but That Bot... I know you're someone, but who? I keep getting confused when people change their usernames. Where's Counterpunch, for that matter? :lol:

I have never been anybody but That Bot. Maybe you know me from somewhere else? I usually go by That Guy or variations, but that was taken and I elected to make my name here thematically appropriate. Also, that's a pretty common username so other That Guys may not be me.

JOP wrote:
That Bot wrote:Yes. All of those things you listed are transformable robot figures.

I will be the first to admit that I should have added the qualifiers 'complex' and 'high quality' to my comment about Hasbro and their production of transformable robot figures (or lack thereof). To be fair, I did not anticipate that someone might interpret the latter half of the sentence in a completely literal fashion, while also choosing to utterly disregard the earlier half of the sentence in which I criticize the Fall of Cybertron figures for their comparatively diminutive size and low material to cost ratio, and the Beast Hunters figures for their ridiculously reductive transformations.

I would like to take the opportunity to thank you for bringing this problem to my attention, and to inform you that going forward, I will attempt to structure my statements so that they are less open to willful misinterpretation by the sarcastically inclined.

Well look. Even if you put aside Bot Shots, Prime and Generations are the same kind of Transformers we've always had. Okay, yes, the're lighter, and they seem to cost more. But they really don't. If you check inflation, a deluxe now costs roughly the same as a deluxe in the late 90s. Likewise voyagers to their size equivalent. Somehow in the 2000s Hasbro managed to increase the size without increasing the price. Looking back, there was no way that could last. Economy crashed, and suddenly Hasbro has to cut costs. Result: less plastic in toys and inflation caught up with the prices. Course it seems that the Prime and early Generations figs were planned to have those retools with the spikes and giant weapons and whatnot so they were made extra small so the retools would be within plastic limitations.
ANYWAY. Prime and Generations are good old-fashined robot-to-something else Transformers without trying to compete with Bionicle or LEGO or Bakugan or whatever. Furthermore, in 2013 their one and only gimmick is transformation itself and the diversity of the weaponry, except the Gen voyagers which have a couple other gimmicks.
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby Autobot032 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:01 pm

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Wow. These are some of the ugliest Transformer things I've seen in a good while. I understand they feel a need to branch out, but these? I don't even know where to begin.

Oh wait, yes I do:

These are terrible AND a ripoff of Lego. Hasbro has no problem complaining about 3rd parties, but when they're the 3rd party, well...
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Autobot032 wrote:These are terrible AND a ripoff of Lego. Hasbro has no problem complaining about 3rd parties, but when they're the 3rd party, well...

In fairness, I don't think I've heard Hasbro talk about third parties in a while. The ban on non-Transformers products at Botcon wasn't limited to 3P stuff, was it?
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Re: Hasbro Brings out New Construct-Bots Building Sets

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:59 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:These are terrible AND a ripoff of Lego. Hasbro has no problem complaining about 3rd parties, but when they're the 3rd party, well...

In fairness, I don't think I've heard Hasbro talk about third parties in a while. The ban on non-Transformers products at Botcon wasn't limited to 3P stuff, was it?


They could sell if it was "non-toy products". Make of that what you will.
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #96 - Age of Extinction
Twincast / Podcast #96:
"Age of Extinction"
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Posted: Monday, July 7th, 2014