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gavinfuzzy wrote:InB4 a better mold. If its the only prime there is, I'm sure it will sell. But if there is a voyager or deluxe, this thing's gonna shelfwarm forever.

Though I'll probably pick it up on clearence. Might look better in hand. (I'm someone who actually likes DOTM Voyager prime.)

I liked his gun, hell I think I bought him just for the BFG.

MUCH better.

Still waiting for the actual CGI model for comparison, though.

The toy in itself isn't bad I think. And those arms somehow give him a Godsigma vibe...
HOWEVER, considering this figure as part of the movie universe and movie toyline:
1)Seeing the samurai/cartoony look of it I'm really worried that this could be a hint of Michael Bay yet again exagerating in giving TFs human characteristics (oh well, we already had bearded robots, sexual harassment, cigar smoking, what else?)
2)Why everytime a new TF movie comes out do they have to change the scale? Ok ok, because then scale-freaks like me wouldn't buy the latest version of barricade or sideswipe to make it fit in the latest movie toyline...

Why is this part of the Generations line and not the Movie line? Did I read that correctly?

I am also wondering why thi is part of the Generations line, unless they plan to release the movie figures under the Generations line so Generations and movie figures share shelf space this time around? In my area every movie year they always pull all other TF merchandise around the end of April and then all they stock is movie stuff until about the following March, meaning I have to resort to hunting online to track down anything I am looking for. Maybe since its the 30th anniversary Hasbro doesn't want stores to do that and hopes to mix Generations/Classics stuff with movie waves under the Generations banner, since it would suck for the 30th anniversary to find stores filled with movie only bots?

Looks much better than originally thought. I'm still not attracted, though.

This? As a preview figure in the Generations line? Nope, unacceptable, completely unacceptable. If they want to do a "preview" figure, put it in the actual line, not Generations.

Still a tad too simple for a Leader Class figure. Looks like I'll have to wait till the 5th movie to see if they pull another ROTF Prime thing, because the was the pinnacle of Bayformer toys

probably a preview figure they're probably doing the same thing they did with the FoC figures, put it in the generations line then slap a series sticker on it. But even correctly transformed it still looks stupid & is still a pass.

O.....M.....G = Translation = EPIC fail

This is the leader calss treatment we have to look forward to from Bayverse? This figure screams simplistic deluxe at best. You have a rear axle backpack and the entire friggin truck cabin is hanging off the back legs. Here is what I see happening...

Leader= smaller, now deluxe configuration transformation
Deluxe= smaller, now legend class configuration/limited movement and detail
Legends= smaller yet, arm rotation eliminated, might as well be a POS pvc figure at this point

Are we really reverting to G1 simplicity for economic reasons?

~reluctantyouth~

Takara jetwing Optimus Prime is proabably the best movie Optimus. Will be interesting seeing what other toys come from the new movie. Otherwise i'll be saving my money for the new masterpiece figures. Waiting on my bluestreak to arrive since I didn't get Prowl.

This gives me that Transscanning vibe, odd.

That would be passable as a Deluxe or Voyager but as a Leader it just isn't impressive enough. ROTF still has the best Leader class in the movie toys.

Though it doesn't look awful, I'm disappointed that this is a Leader class figure. It looks more like it should be scaled down to Voyager size.

I hope the Deluxes and Voyagers are not equally simple, nor simpler.

As Trikeboy above me said, ROTF Optimus really set the bar for ideal Movie Leader Class figures, and anything that's so dramatically simpler by comparison leaves me with a feel of it lacking something.

Who's willing to bet that this thing's brick of a torso is filled with gimmicks?
ROTF Optimus had them, too, but for that figure the designers were able to get their acts together and combine gimmicks with a decent transformation, without sacrificing one for the other.

Ah, well, all the more money to get my MP Soundwave a new shelf buddy. (Assuming that Hasbro releases any during the exploitation of TF:AOE audiences)

reluctantyouth wrote:......Are we really reverting to G1 simplicity for economic reasons?

I'm a G1er, and I would rather these new figures go back to the best of the Unicron Trilogy figure's simplicity.

This is getting rediculous. I'm not asking for super advanced and articulated figures, but with the Iron Man 3 "action-less" figures, and the more recent "early 80s template" Star Wars figures, it's getting harder to justify buying stuff from Hasbro. They really deserved to lose to Lego from that recent article.

It's kind of sad that I'm buying 2013 TFs for their weapons more than their figures. I weep for the future of TFs.

Now that someone pointed it out, the lack of headlights is really bothering me. But I'm not rushing to judgement on this figure. It could look much better in person. I'm still not sure we're seeing the correct transformation.

I don't see why he would be released as a generations figure when he is clearly not, he is a movie line toy figure not a generations figure, Hasbro is very sneaky on putting TF figures from one toy line into another so next thing you know you have this guy from 'another' TF toy line and then you want to get the rest,,, like,,, Generations Soundwave being actually a FOC figure and then boom,,, what did we get ? the FOC line with a bigger soundwave figure wtf.... so this is clearly a strategy for them to mix up the toy lines up a bit and get us all on board... I'm not happy that he will be released in the generations line because I feel 100% sure they will also use him on the TF movie 4 line... however I may end up getting him at some point down the road once he goes on clearance. LOL

No more Leader Primes for me. I bought the original 2007 mold and it's blue repaint. Then I bought the ROTF version on sale for 35 bucks and to this day haven't opened it.

IDK....I think I still need to see a good hands on look at it correctly transformed. Yes, this time around he does look better than what we saw on the Show floor. But still, for a Leader, still has alot of back kibble, the same reason I didn't get the TFP Optimus. At that size, they should be able to reduce the kibble. I'm looking forward to see if there are any Dinobots coming and maybe depending on how they look, might make me change my mind. But until I see hands on looks.....

Mindmaster wrote:Looks much better than originally thought. I'm still not attracted, though.

This? As a preview figure in the Generations line? Nope, unacceptable, completely unacceptable. If they want to do a "preview" figure, put it in the actual line, not Generations.

Metroplex79 wrote:

reluctantyouth wrote:......Are we really reverting to G1 simplicity for economic reasons?

I'm a G1er, and I would rather these new figures go back to the best of the Unicron Trilogy figure's simplicity.

How I miss the Energon/Cybertron Unicron trilogy figures.

Most figures had decent poseability and decent gimmicks. They also didn't look overly detailed in comparison to their transformations; they looked somewhat blocky, and they transformed in a somewhat blocky manner (I'm mainly thinking of my Constructicon Maximus torso figure whose name escapes me) unlike today's film figures, whose overly detailed aesthetics do not go well with their simple transformations at all.

This thing's a Leader?! *looks at Leader Starscream* Oh how far they've fallen...

I can see a lot of people dropping this line with how "kiddie" they seem to be going.

Sabrblade wrote:Also, what's this people keep saying about a fake chest? There aren't any window on this chest, so what's fake about it?

It's still not formed out of anything from the alt mode, and Movieverse designs generally don't fake in torsos or anything -- every bit of a Transformer is a bit of the vehicle.

guarayakha wrote:Still a tad too simple for a Leader Class figure. Looks like I'll have to wait till the 5th movie to see if they pull another ROTF Prime thing, because the was the pinnacle of Bayformer toys

You're not going to see that again in movie toys as long as their focus is dumbed down, kid friendly toys. If you want a return to ROTF engineering, your only hope is these toys don't sell and Hasbro concludes that it's due to releasing poopy toys for 5 year olds and they'd be better off going back to super complex, super screen accurate figures.

Flakmaster wrote:I hope the Deluxes and Voyagers are not equally simple, nor simpler.

If the upcoming Beast Hunters toys for 2014 are any indication, Deluxes and Voyagers may become nothing more than enlarged Legions and Commanders.

MagnetarPrime wrote::HEADHURTS: I don't see why he would be released as a generations figure when he is clearly not, he is a movie line toy figure not a generations figure, Hasbro is very sneaky on putting TF figures from one toy line into another so next thing you know you have this guy from 'another' TF toy line and then you want to get the rest,,, like,,, Generations Soundwave being actually a FOC figure and then boom,,, what did we get ? the FOC line with a bigger soundwave figure wtf.... so this is clearly a strategy for them to mix up the toy lines up a bit and get us all on board... I'm not happy that he will be released in the generations line because I feel 100% sure they will also use him on the TF movie 4 line... however I may end up getting him at some point down the road once he goes on clearance. LOL

Well, what is it that makes a Generations be a Generations toy when the Generations line has thus far had at least three or four different aesthetics? Generations began as a War for Cybertron toyline, evolved into another Classics-style line, shifted into a Fall of Cybertron line, has now converted into an IDW toyline, and will likely change up things again later on. So what if it has a figure from one more aesthetic?

Rated X wrote:No more Leader Primes for me. I bought the original 2007 mold and it's blue repaint. Then I bought the ROTF version on sale for 35 bucks and to this day haven't opened it.

You should open that thing, stat! It is amazing. Between the 2007 Leader toy and the ROTF Leader toy, the ROTF one is pretty much exactly what we see onscreen in the movies put into plastic form.

Whereas the 2007 toy is but a blocky imitation by comparison.

Noideaforaname wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Also, what's this people keep saying about a fake chest? There aren't any window on this chest, so what's fake about it?

It's still not formed out of anything from the alt mode, and Movieverse designs generally don't fake in torsos or anything -- every bit of a Transformer is a bit of the vehicle.

Maybe this movie will have Optimus transforming into a robot mode whose chest is formed from parts hidden deep inside the altmode exterior.

Why is everyone so worried about what line this is released under? It is a movie Prime. No one is going to get it confused with a Classics/Generations Prime. Maybe they aren't even going to call them movie toys this time around. Everything might just be called generations.

That guys does look fairly simplistic for a Leader class toy. I understand that Hasbro wants to keep these toys more simplistic for the kids. I can only hope that they do more figures like Leader Starscream. I believe they called him a Masterpiece in the Takara line. Maybe they are going to do the same thing here. Make the more accurate Leaders MP's.

Honestly speaking, compared to the ROTF Leader Class Prime, this is utter garbage. Seriously, I'm not usually one to bitch and moan about these things, but the quality and standard of the movieverse figures seems to be declining drastically.

Yes, the CGI model hasn't been made public yet, but I cannot believe for a single solitary second that it will have that god-awful backpack that consists of the 4 rear wheels. Mis-transformation? A more complex figure waiting in the wings? We can only hope.