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PrymeStriker wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Because we're 10% of their profit. Transformers are aimed at kids before adults, remember that.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Because we're 10% of their profit. Transformers are aimed at kids before adults, remember that.

And despite popular belief, Hasbro doesn't owe us fans anything. How many of us have actually been collecting the toys, for all the 28 years the brand has been in existence?

PrymeStriker wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Because we're 10% of their profit. Transformers are aimed at kids before adults, remember that.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Because we're 10% of their profit. Transformers are aimed at kids before adults, remember that.

And despite popular belief, Hasbro doesn't owe us fans anything. How many of us have actually been collecting the toys, for all the 28 years the brand has been in existence?

PrymeStriker wrote:

That Bot wrote:

starwarrior1227 wrote:Crap, the prime figs have been retooled to make them look like they come from DOTM's wreckers team...

Some of us actually like that. I expect kids will eat this right up, which is the goal.

Plaaaansss.

YoungPrime wrote:And forgive me if I'm not all that confident in your claims of us being only 10%. We might not be the majority but who's going to deny that we're the backbone.

YoungPrime wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:So depressing....why are they ignoring their oldest and most devoted consumers???

Because we're 10% of their profit. Transformers are aimed at kids before adults, remember that.

Maybe you shouldn't assume you're aware of everything "kids" like.

And forgive me if I'm not all that confident in your claims of us being only 10%. We might not be the majority but who's going to deny that we're the backbone.

headsortails wrote:But I do feel that we, the adult collectors, are more than just 10%. I'm thinking more like close to 20%, maybe 18%. And I do believe the number is growing. I've had people from work or other friends come over and be like "wow, that **** is awesome! Where did you get some of that? I haven't seen those in stores.I remember the G1 guys.", and wind up starting their own little collection.

PrymeStriker wrote:

headsortails wrote:But I do feel that we, the adult collectors, are more than just 10%. I'm thinking more like close to 20%, maybe 18%. And I do believe the number is growing. I've had people from work or other friends come over and be like "wow, that **** is awesome! Where did you get some of that? I haven't seen those in stores.I remember the G1 guys.", and wind up starting their own little collection.

I won't deny that we may be a majority of the fandom, but they [Hasbro] have said before that we're the minority of their profit.

RAcast wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

headsortails wrote:But I do feel that we, the adult collectors, are more than just 10%. I'm thinking more like close to 20%, maybe 18%. And I do believe the number is growing. I've had people from work or other friends come over and be like "wow, that **** is awesome! Where did you get some of that? I haven't seen those in stores.I remember the G1 guys.", and wind up starting their own little collection.

I won't deny that we may be a majority of the fandom, but they [Hasbro] have said before that we're the minority of their profit.

I don't think he's denying that, but I do think that 10% is surely wrong. It's a made up number, at best. The fact that collectors buy so much at retail would increase that number notably if an accurate read could be taken.

craggy wrote:it'd be very nice to get some of the currently comic-only characters some toys. the non-Pretender Metalhawk, Ambulon (legformers FTW!), psycho Whirl and some of the DJD would be very welcome.

headsortails wrote:"]Keeping close eye on which characters from IDW comics are popular ... might translate as toys. Stay tuned!"


I just noticed this, by the way. If Hasbro goes through with this, then maybe I can get excited for them again!

YoungPrime wrote:

headsortails wrote:"]Keeping close eye on which characters from IDW comics are popular ... might translate as toys. Stay tuned!"


I just noticed this, by the way. If Hasbro goes through with this, then maybe I can get excited for them again!

Yeah but how many years will that take?

Mkall wrote:

craggy wrote:it'd be very nice to get some of the currently comic-only characters some toys. the non-Pretender Metalhawk, Ambulon (legformers FTW!), psycho Whirl and some of the DJD would be very welcome.

Dude, the DJD would be a killer set!

Also, bring back Skids!

Seibertron.com wrote:Panel guests included:

Hasbro Studios (Burbank, CA):

• Mike Vogel - Vice President, development
• Brian Lenard - Executive Director
• Jeff Kline - Producer, Transformers Prime
• Duane Capizzi - Producer, Transformers Prime

Hasbro (Providence, RI):

• Jerry Jivoin - Director, global brand management
• Andy Schmidt - Director, design & development
• Clint Chapman - Global Brand Manageer, Transformers

Showed us a clip reel of Transformers Prime Season 2
Showed us a villians clip
and then showed us Shockwave introducing Predaking from Transformers Prime "Beast Hunters"
The Predacons are Cybertron's versions of Dinosaurs

Transformers Prime
Beast Hunters
Looks like new toys from the ground up, new head sculpts, new "helmets", accessories, etc

Legion Class
Bumblebee with Hawkbow
Smokescreen with Chain Bolter
Airachnid with Novastinger Bow
Twinstrike with Piston Hammer (looks like a Sinnertwin homage)

Commander Class
Bulkhead with Nova Hammer (in Roadbuster colors)
Predaking with Cybervenom Rocket

Cyberverse Vehicles
Sky Claw with Smokescreen (Smokescreen in Alternators color scheme with #7 on doors/wings)
Apex Armor with Breakdown

Deluxe Class
Bumblebee with Hawkbow (loaded with weapons ... looks awesome)
Soundwave & Ravage with Thunder Talon
Wheeljack with Falcon Spear
Lazerback with Toxic Strike Blaster

Voyager Class
Predaking with Hydrafire blasters (robot mode to be revealed later)

New packaging for Beast Hunters
Commented that the Beasts are large and heavy, larger than regular figures. I think they stated that the packaging for the beasts would be larger than others. Not sure if this translates to price or not.
Instructions to have a bit of story in them now (not sure if this replaces bios or not on packaging). Each instructions story leads into anothers. Runs through deluxe and voyager instructions.

Bumblebee instructions text: With the threat of Predaking looming over them all, every AUTOBOT dedicates himself to discovering some means of battling the PREDACON overlord. But it is the scout BUMBLEBEE who discovers what may be the key to victory. Buried deep within data recovered alongside one of the Iacon Relics he finds evidence of a direlict transport starship - a courier packed with weapons more ancient than any relic yet recovered - set adrift ages ago among the asteroids girdling Earth's solar system. With no other way to reach the ancient ship, and not wanting to waste time, he contacts WHEELJACK, hoping the AUTOBOT mercenary can provide transport and - if it turns out to be a trap - an extra blaster. Continued in Chapter 2 deluxe SOUNDWAVE ...

Kre-O Transformers
Ripclaw with Military Officer Kreon and Ripclaw Kreon
Bumblebee with Skystalker + 2 Kreons (Bumblebee is a 4x4 vehicle)
Trailcutter vs Grimwing
Windcharger vs Corhada

Transformers Generations
Different sizes for Generations
Introducting Transformers Generations Platinum Edition ... coming out late 2012/early 2013
Remolded and recolored Energon Omega Supreme (new head with flip down visor, new claw hand)
Energon Optimus Prime in G1 Optimus Prime color scheme
Packaging looks amazing (artwork for Omega Supreme will be revised), gold foil packaging, 5th panel window, G1 comic inspired artwork, carrying handle

Transformers Q&A

• Are the upcoming Masterpieces coming to U.S.? Partnership with Toys R Us. No specific plans. But I would consider that they'll be here.
• Still moving forward with Transformers Universe MMO from Jagex
• Looking into bringing Arms Micron Unicron to U.S., but no set plans yet
• Beast Wars or "who knows what can happen" in 30th anniversary / 2014
• Talked about retail prices ... don't control retail prices
• Sgt Kup and Rumble last two figures before Beast Hunters
• Will we see Dinobots in season 3? Stay tuned!
• Teased that Bruticus in G1 colors at retail?
• Maybe and stay tuned to more Combiners. More to announce soon! Love the deluxe combiners.
• Will Unicron be showing up again? Stay tuned ...
• Keeping close eye on which characters from IDW comics are popular ... might translate as toys. Stay tuned!
• Teased that deluxe Smokescreen might be coming
• Want to make sure that all of the characters from the show make it out as toys
• Voyager Prime Grimlock possibility?

Click on the images below to view the gallery of Hasbro's Transformers brand panel ...

joevill wrote:SO the United States will be getting the Platinum toys?

Seibertron wrote:

joevill wrote:SO the United States will be getting the Platinum toys?

Yes as exclusives with Amazon and BBTS if I recall correctly.

Doubledealer93 wrote:if smokescreen is not an exclusive i will loose 200 pounds, shave my head and beard and change my name to sue.