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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby PrymeStriker » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:15 pm

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You simply don't understand, the US has always wanted to take credit since 1984. :-x :-x


Yep. They don't understand. >:oP

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Ah, THANK YOU! That's what it is! I was trying to put my finger on whatever was a little..."different". I don't hate it, but I agree, it could easily be an Autobot head sculpt.


Well, with the blue eyes (not that it matters that much, but still) could it not indeed be an Autobot? I doubt they'd try enraging the fans that much, but hey! Bold move it would be.


Well, Frenzy is a Decepticon. We know that from Exodus & the games. But were are supposed to get some side switchers in season three. ;)
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby STngAR » Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:55 am

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Wasnt Rumble a more Purple/Blue, and Frenzy Red/Orange? Or was that the other way around? Hmmm..... walks away scratching head :MAXIMAL:
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby PaxCybertron82 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:57 am

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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:11 am

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STngAR wrote:Wasnt Rumble a more Purple/Blue, and Frenzy Red/Orange? Or was that the other way around? Hmmm..... walks away scratching head :MAXIMAL:


In the U.S cartoon, Rumble was lavender and blue while Frenzy was red and black. In just about everything else at the time, it was the other way around.

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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby XDMan » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:19 pm

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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

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Dude...

The United States originally came up with the fiction, and several studios in and around the Philippines helped animate the cartoon, while Sunbow wrote the fiction. Japan saw the hubbub going on there and cut short the rebranding of the Diaclone line in favor of the Transformers. Therefore, G1 aired in America in 1984, while in Japan it aired in 1985. How can you not get that?
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby That Bot » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:28 pm

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FACT: Frenzy and Rumble were, respectively, blue and red & black in the toys
FACT: This color scheme was shared by the Marvel Comics
FACT: The colors got reversed in the G1 cartoon
FACT: The G1 cartoon was written by various freelance writers, funded by Hasbro, handled by Sunbow Productions who had the animation done by Toei Animation and AKOM, and debuted in the US in 1984. American voice actors were the first voice actors to give life to the characters.
FACT: The G1 cartoon premiered in Japan in 1985.
FACT: The Japanese G1 cartoon reversed the names of Frenzy and Rumble so that their colors were correct with the toys and every other iteration.
FACT: Aligned Frenzy and Rumble aren't G1, and have been consistently portrayed as red and blue respectively, meaning the FIRRIB/FIBRIR debate doesn't matter here.

Now can we get back to discussing our potential Hasbro Prime Frenzy toy?
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:25 pm

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XDMan wrote:@PrimeStriker: Given between the choice of who doesn't understand (the two who believe the US does it all or Habsro thinking that they made it), thank Primus someone is willing to join me. ;)


Dude. I was being sarcastic.

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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:18 pm

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That Bot wrote:FACT: Frenzy and Rumble were, respectively, blue and red & black in the toys
FACT: This color scheme was shared by the Marvel Comics
FACT: The colors got reversed in the G1 cartoon
FACT: The G1 cartoon was written by various freelance writers, funded by Hasbro, handled by Sunbow Productions who had the animation done by Toei Animation and AKOM, and debuted in the US in 1984. American voice actors were the first voice actors to give life to the characters.
FACT: The G1 cartoon premiered in Japan in 1985.
FACT: The Japanese G1 cartoon reversed the names of Frenzy and Rumble so that their colors were correct with the toys and every other iteration.
FACT: Aligned Frenzy and Rumble aren't G1, and have been consistently portrayed as red and blue respectively, meaning the FIRRIB/FIBRIR debate doesn't matter here.

Now can we get back to discussing our potential Hasbro Prime Frenzy toy?
Thank you. :APPLAUSE:

Though, the Takara versions of Prime Rumble and Prime Frenzy have their colors switched. 8-}
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby That Bot » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:30 pm

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That's Japan being consistent with their version of the TF universe, I guess. Have there been any other versions of Frumble in Japanese TF media?
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:49 pm

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Then again, Hasbro gave birth to the Aligned continuity, so I guess we could consider Aligned Rumble and Frenzy officially blue and red respectively. Japan's just doing what they've pretty much done the whole time.
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:52 pm

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That Bot wrote:That's Japan being consistent with their version of the TF universe, I guess. Have there been any other versions of Frumble in Japanese TF media?
Well, Cybertron Scrapmetal was called "Rumble" in Galaxy Force (with his pile drivers and Coby's version's head intending to homage the G1 dudes), and he came in both red and blue versions, as well as yellow. ;)

And they only ever got Movie Frenzy in silver/gray, while the Western World got him in silver/gray, blue, red, and even black. :P

But as far as the G1 guys go, Japan was always RIRFIB/FIBRIR about them, so that's consistent for them. Though, according to Andrew Hall, there might (keyword: "might") be something included in AM Rumble's toy bio to reconcile his red color scheme with the Hasbro Rumble's blue. I cvan only hope for something similar in AM Frenzy's bio to fit his blue with this test shot's red (or with Rumble's two differing color schemes). ;)

Thus far, the only things that have had the G1 guys be FIRRIB are the U.S. cartoon, the Devil's Due Joe/TF crossover comics (which are AWESOME, btw ;) ), certain IDW comics (namely the first ongoing and Autocracy), the Diamond Select Mini-Busts, and the canceled-but-still-existent Reveal the Shield Demolition Rumble figure. :-B
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:37 am

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That Bot wrote:FACT: Frenzy and Rumble were, respectively, blue and red & black in the toys
FACT: This color scheme was shared by the Marvel Comics
FACT: The colors got reversed in the G1 cartoon
FACT: The G1 cartoon was written by various freelance writers, funded by Hasbro, handled by Sunbow Productions who had the animation done by Toei Animation and AKOM, and debuted in the US in 1984. American voice actors were the first voice actors to give life to the characters.
FACT: The G1 cartoon premiered in Japan in 1985.
FACT: The Japanese G1 cartoon reversed the names of Frenzy and Rumble so that their colors were correct with the toys and every other iteration.
FACT: Aligned Frenzy and Rumble aren't G1, and have been consistently portrayed as red and blue respectively, meaning the FIRRIB/FIBRIR debate doesn't matter here.

Now can we get back to discussing our potential Hasbro Prime Frenzy toy?
Thank you. :APPLAUSE:

Though, the Takara versions of Prime Rumble and Prime Frenzy have their colors switched. 8-}


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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

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The minicon is a bit derpy also. xD And paint is always better than stickers. =_=;

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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Since TakaraTomy has no Aligned continuity like Hasbro does, due to lack of the games, we can assume they're the Cybertonian forms of the G1 characters.
Erm why would that be when Leo Prime's bio explicitly states the TF: Prime universe to be a different dimension from the G1-verse?
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:31 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Since TakaraTomy has no Aligned continuity like Hasbro does, due to lack of the games, we can assume they're the Cybertonian forms of the G1 characters.
Erm why would that be when Leo Prime's bio explicitly states the TF: Prime universe to be a different dimension from the G1-verse?


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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:35 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Since TakaraTomy has no Aligned continuity like Hasbro does, due to lack of the games, we can assume they're the Cybertonian forms of the G1 characters.
Erm why would that be when Leo Prime's bio explicitly states the TF: Prime universe to be a different dimension from the G1-verse?


I was talking about Generations ;)
In my post I said "Prime Rumble and Prime Frenzy". ;)
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Since TakaraTomy has no Aligned continuity like Hasbro does, due to lack of the games, we can assume they're the Cybertonian forms of the G1 characters.
Erm why would that be when Leo Prime's bio explicitly states the TF: Prime universe to be a different dimension from the G1-verse?


I was talking about Generations ;)
In my post I said "Prime Rumble and Prime Frenzy". ;)


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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

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Proceed on your way to oblivion.

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Dude...

The United States originally came up with the fiction, and several studios in and around the Philippines helped animate the cartoon, while Sunbow wrote the fiction. Japan saw the hubbub going on there and cut short the rebranding of the Diaclone line in favor of the Transformers. Therefore, G1 aired in America in 1984, while in Japan it aired in 1985. How can you not get that?
This has nothing to do with what the immature TF Wiki says! Just because you grew up with Hasblow doesn't mean they did it all! And by the looks of it, your gold is starting to rust! PERIOD! :-x
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

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XDMan wrote:@PrimeStriker: Given between the choice of who doesn't understand (the two who believe the US does it all or Habsro thinking that they made it), thank Primus someone is willing to join me. ;)

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Dude...

The United States originally came up with the fiction, and several studios in and around the Philippines helped animate the cartoon, while Sunbow wrote the fiction. Japan saw the hubbub going on there and cut short the rebranding of the Diaclone line in favor of the Transformers. Therefore, G1 aired in America in 1984, while in Japan it aired in 1985. How can you not get that?
This has nothing to do with what the immature TF Wiki says! Just because you grew up with Hasblow doesn't mean they did it all! And by the looks of it, your gold is starting to rust! PERIOD! :-x


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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby XDMan » Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:30 pm

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Dude. I was being sarcastic.

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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby That Bot » Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:16 pm

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I'm not sure if you're a really good troll or you honestly believe this, but either way it seems pretty obvious none of us is going to convince the other, so let's all drop it. Merry Christmas! Maybe Hasbro Claus will see how much the fandom wants a Frenzy and put it in Beast Hunters.
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby RAcast » Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:26 pm

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That Bot wrote:I'm not sure if you're a really good troll or you honestly believe this, but either way it seems pretty obvious none of us is going to convince the other, so let's all drop it. Merry Christmas! Maybe Hasbro Claus will see how much the fandom wants a Frenzy and put it in Beast Hunters.

Especially with those awesome light blue highlights! I want my Gurren! :D
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby PrymeStriker » Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:09 pm

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I'd like a stateside release of Frenzy, but not in Beast Hunters. >:oP
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Re: Hasbro Transformers Prime Frenzy Test Shot

Postby That Bot » Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:29 pm

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Well considering that Prime RID is effectively over with the possible exception of Voyager Skyquake, it's kinda gonna have to be Beast Hunters if it happens at all.
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