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XDMan wrote:@Sabrblade & JelZe Goldrabbit

You simply don't understand, the US has always wanted to take credit since 1984.

Yep. They don't understand.

Va'al wrote:

ViperEye82 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:Head sculpt seems a little heroic for Frenzy...

Ah, THANK YOU! That's what it is! I was trying to put my finger on whatever was a little..."different". I don't hate it, but I agree, it could easily be an Autobot head sculpt.

Well, with the blue eyes (not that it matters that much, but still) could it not indeed be an Autobot? I doubt they'd try enraging the fans that much, but hey! Bold move it would be.

Well, Frenzy is a Decepticon. We know that from Exodus & the games. But were are supposed to get some side switchers in season three.

Wasnt Rumble a more Purple/Blue, and Frenzy Red/Orange? Or was that the other way around? Hmmm..... walks away scratching head

I can't believe this became a "which came first" / "FIBRIR" discussion. lol.

STngAR wrote:Wasnt Rumble a more Purple/Blue, and Frenzy Red/Orange? Or was that the other way around? Hmmm..... walks away scratching head

In the U.S cartoon, Rumble was lavender and blue while Frenzy was red and black. In just about everything else at the time, it was the other way around.

@PrimeStriker: Given between the choice of who doesn't understand (the two who believe the US does it all or Habsro thinking that they made it), thank Primus someone is willing to join me.

@JelZe Goldrabbit: Goodbye. Who cares about your so called enlightening. In other words:

Proceed on your way to oblivion.

<slams the door>

XDMan wrote:@PrimeStriker: Given between the choice of who doesn't understand (the two who believe the US does it all or Habsro thinking that they made it), thank Primus someone is willing to join me.

@JelZe Goldrabbit: Goodbye. Who cares about your so called enlightening. In other words:

Proceed on your way to oblivion.

<slams the door>

Dude...

The United States originally came up with the fiction, and several studios in and around the Philippines helped animate the cartoon, while Sunbow wrote the fiction. Japan saw the hubbub going on there and cut short the rebranding of the Diaclone line in favor of the Transformers. Therefore, G1 aired in America in 1984, while in Japan it aired in 1985. How can you not get that?

FACT: Frenzy and Rumble were, respectively, blue and red & black in the toys
FACT: This color scheme was shared by the Marvel Comics
FACT: The colors got reversed in the G1 cartoon
FACT: The G1 cartoon was written by various freelance writers, funded by Hasbro, handled by Sunbow Productions who had the animation done by Toei Animation and AKOM, and debuted in the US in 1984. American voice actors were the first voice actors to give life to the characters.
FACT: The G1 cartoon premiered in Japan in 1985.
FACT: The Japanese G1 cartoon reversed the names of Frenzy and Rumble so that their colors were correct with the toys and every other iteration.
FACT: Aligned Frenzy and Rumble aren't G1, and have been consistently portrayed as red and blue respectively, meaning the FIRRIB/FIBRIR debate doesn't matter here.

Now can we get back to discussing our potential Hasbro Prime Frenzy toy?

XDMan wrote:@PrimeStriker: Given between the choice of who doesn't understand (the two who believe the US does it all or Habsro thinking that they made it), thank Primus someone is willing to join me.

Dude. I was being sarcastic.

They're right, you're wrong. Have a nice day.

That Bot wrote:FACT: Frenzy and Rumble were, respectively, blue and red & black in the toys
FACT: This color scheme was shared by the Marvel Comics
FACT: The colors got reversed in the G1 cartoon
FACT: The G1 cartoon was written by various freelance writers, funded by Hasbro, handled by Sunbow Productions who had the animation done by Toei Animation and AKOM, and debuted in the US in 1984. American voice actors were the first voice actors to give life to the characters.
FACT: The G1 cartoon premiered in Japan in 1985.
FACT: The Japanese G1 cartoon reversed the names of Frenzy and Rumble so that their colors were correct with the toys and every other iteration.
FACT: Aligned Frenzy and Rumble aren't G1, and have been consistently portrayed as red and blue respectively, meaning the FIRRIB/FIBRIR debate doesn't matter here.

Now can we get back to discussing our potential Hasbro Prime Frenzy toy?

Thank you.

Though, the Takara versions of Prime Rumble and Prime Frenzy have their colors switched.

That's Japan being consistent with their version of the TF universe, I guess. Have there been any other versions of Frumble in Japanese TF media?