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Are you kidding, why dont they start by making a good movie. Kids dont buy the toys because the movies lack substance, they feel disconnected. I will not watch another Bayformer movie.

If you look up animated hotshot on wikipedia there’s a picture of a prototype hotshot mold that never made it past that stage

samuraiman wrote:i hated the movie toylines mostly because they killed off the perfectly good animated toyline for movie toys and animated was going strong with so much toy potential. if we get a repeat with prime or FOC i’m gonna

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Animated had character, potential, an unfinished yet engaging story, and some awesome toys that didn't look like they would turn into crap anytime soon. I can hold the Voyager Class Animated Shockwave in my hands and think,
"Wow, this is a durable figure and such a great character in the show, pew pew lazer gunz"
but with DOTM shockwave I look at his toy and think,
"What is this? Why is the cannon on the wrong arm? Is this even really Shockwave? And why should I have to glue some struts into his arms just to keep them from falling off each time I rotate them at the shoulder?"[/quote]

here’s a list of animated characters we could’ve gotten if not for the movies
-strika
-cyclonus
-brawn
-hotshot
-red alert
-spittor
-slipstream& the other starscream clones (with the exception of sunstorm and skywarp)
-mixmaster
-scrapper
-dirtboss

and these are just characters i remember from the show. we probly could’ve gottem more characters not from the show just to sell more toys which would’ve worked for me

Oh, keep Optimus. Just don't give us Bumblebee.

I guarantee if they redesigned the movie bots to look more like the characters we are all familiar with from our youth, that toy line would sell like crazy.

cor2879 wrote:I guarantee if they redesigned the movie bots to look more like the characters we are all familiar with from our youth, that toy line would sell like crazy.

From fans and youths alike. Because the kiddies don't care.

I've been going through and watching all the G1 episodes and suddenly saw this coming. I thought, with all the rumors we've been hearing, with Bay still directing yet calling it a "reboot" and Megatron being dead along with most of the iconic decepticons, they would be moving on to G2. They will probably want to do the Unicron story since Bay wants to always go bigger and more explosive every sequel.

This all made sense when I realized Bay actually stuck pretty close to the corniness of the original G1 cartoons. Especially after watching the 3-parter "The Ultimate Doom". It was like the kids version of Dark of the Moon. All this time I thought he'd been raping my childhood, only to realize he was just letting my childhood come back and rape me. Seriously, the G1 episode scripts are kind of... ridiculous. Things weren't as cool as I remembered them.

Anyway, that said, I am thinking we are going to get characters like Rodimus, Kup, Springer, Ultra Magnus, Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge. Probably get the dinobots too.

Wouldn't mind seeing the beast wars, but I find it unlikely.

Uhh... the reason the toys didn't sell and still clog shelves is because 3/4 of the characters aren't even in the movie. And of that 1/4 of ones that are actually in it, only a sliver are of new characters. I like the movies and all, but the toyline just made me . The only redemption Hasbro has is if they keep their word on re-releasing Soundwave and Que like they alluded to at BotCon.

well thats one bit of good news, just wish they would cut every one who has been involved and start from scratch cause thats what the franchise need a fresh start not more explosions. But on another note the toys not selling well wasnt souly due to every one being sick of the characters there were other factors like poor quality, high prices & poor distribution. Yes no variety did hurt it but it wasnt the main factor. When bumblebee & prime are the only 2 figures on the shelves no one is going to buy them especially if they cost $13 or more, look like crap & break the first time you transform it. Instead of making 3 bumblebee repaints how about making the other 2 dreads & a random bot whos not in the movie like hound or someone, also lose the gimmicks cause they are never a good selling point. Not only does hasbro need to rethink the movies but they need to rethink how they handle business as well cause they suck in both fronts.

guarayakha wrote:

...they feel the lower than expected toy sales for Transformers DOTM were due to the recurring cast of robots in the previous trilogy. They hope new Transformers characters will reignite toys sales...

It has more to do with making over 9000 different versions of Optimuses and Bumblebees while neglecting requested figures like LeaderClass DOTM Megs, Dino and cancelling that Voyager Jetwing Prime that actually looks cool. And stupid designs like Que, Wheelie and Brains.

I have to agree. Even now with the Prime figures, Bumblebee is nothing more than a peg warmer and because all those BB's are still filling up the pegs, other cases of the other new figures aren't being ordered.

Sorry, marketing is to blame for this one. Stop making so damn many versions of Bumblebees. If you're going to repaint him, at least make a completely new character out of him... i.e. Prime's Hot Shot... though I know the Japanese love the same characters repainted over and over and not making it into a completely different character. But if your toy sales are down, perhaps going a different direction with the toys, like creating new characters is the way to go. And don't wait until stores basically stop carrying a line to release new characters because that part really chaps my ass. How many of us paid through the nose for Reveal the Shield Scout Class Windcharger because the stores stopped carrying that line?

Again, look at the Prime figures... who's idea was it to pack so many BB's and/or Hot Shot into a case with only one Vehicon in the first place? Plain stupid. It appears now though, judging by the later series cases coming in at BBTS that there are at least two Vehicons to a case. Rather similar to when Generations Scourge was released and the majority of us had a hard time finding more of him to build up our Sweeps. Of course, towards the end Hasbro realized too late to have more of him in the case and thus so many were left warming the pegs next to Kup. It's like commonsense goes out the window in these decisions.

Oh, and adding an Adjective in front of the name to coincide with the new paint job and maybe giving the figure a different set of weapons isn't the same as creating a completely different character... i.e. Cyberverse Leader Class Night Watch Optimus Prime with Swords or every Bumblebee design in every color ever created.