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Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:02 pm

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It'll be a week at least before I can find the time to watch DOTM, but there's something I really want to know:

Is Mirage really called fricking Dino in the movie?
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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby Galvatron X » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:03 pm

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Unfortunately...yes. As in "Dee-no", not "Die-no".
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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:26 pm

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Oh well, at least the toilet humor was toned down--at least that's what I heard.
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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:41 am

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Yes, Dino. Only mentioned a few times. I am guessing it's a reference to Dean Martin, who was Italian and his nickname was Dino. Of course, the car is a Ferrari 458 Italia, and the character had an Italian accent. Just a little stereotypical...
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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby Screamfleet » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:02 am

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it's better, since he's nothing like mirage.
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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby Autobot032 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:04 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, Dino. Only mentioned a few times. I am guessing it's a reference to Dean Martin, who was Italian and his nickname was Dino. Of course, the car is a Ferrari 458 Italia, and the character had an Italian accent. Just a little stereotypical...


No...

From Wikipedia:

Dino, an Autobot who transforms into a red Ferrari 458 Italia and speaks with an Italian accent. He was initially meant to be called Mirage, and he goes by that name in the film's related media and toy line, but for the film his name was changed by request from Ferrari, into the nickname given to Alfredo Ferrari.

What it doesn't tell you is that the accent was their request also.
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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:20 am

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Autobot032 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, Dino. Only mentioned a few times. I am guessing it's a reference to Dean Martin, who was Italian and his nickname was Dino. Of course, the car is a Ferrari 458 Italia, and the character had an Italian accent. Just a little stereotypical...


No...

From Wikipedia:

Dino, an Autobot who transforms into a red Ferrari 458 Italia and speaks with an Italian accent. He was initially meant to be called Mirage, and he goes by that name in the film's related media and toy line, but for the film his name was changed by request from Ferrari, into the nickname given to Alfredo Ferrari.

What it doesn't tell you is that the accent was their request also.


Also a good theory.
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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby Red 50 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:30 am

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Mirage... Wasn't he even a blue and white F1 racer?

I know that movie-verse designs go usually so far away from originality, but making Mirage a red sports car isn't, well, really fitting. Probably it's for the best that characters name was Dino.
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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby Autobot032 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:46 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, Dino. Only mentioned a few times. I am guessing it's a reference to Dean Martin, who was Italian and his nickname was Dino. Of course, the car is a Ferrari 458 Italia, and the character had an Italian accent. Just a little stereotypical...


No...

From Wikipedia:

Dino, an Autobot who transforms into a red Ferrari 458 Italia and speaks with an Italian accent. He was initially meant to be called Mirage, and he goes by that name in the film's related media and toy line, but for the film his name was changed by request from Ferrari, into the nickname given to Alfredo Ferrari.

What it doesn't tell you is that the accent was their request also.


Also a good theory.


...it's not a theory, these are the facts.

Ferrari didn't want him in the movie unless compromises were made. One of them? Naming him Dino in honor of the late Alfredo Ferrari.

This is all real. Bay himself, Nelson, and industry insiders have discussed and reported this several times. Fact, not theory.
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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:51 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, Dino. Only mentioned a few times. I am guessing it's a reference to Dean Martin, who was Italian and his nickname was Dino. Of course, the car is a Ferrari 458 Italia, and the character had an Italian accent. Just a little stereotypical...


No...

From Wikipedia:

Dino, an Autobot who transforms into a red Ferrari 458 Italia and speaks with an Italian accent. He was initially meant to be called Mirage, and he goes by that name in the film's related media and toy line, but for the film his name was changed by request from Ferrari, into the nickname given to Alfredo Ferrari.

What it doesn't tell you is that the accent was their request also.


Also a good theory.


...it's not a theory, these are the facts.

Ferrari didn't want him in the movie unless compromises were made. One of them? Naming him Dino in honor of the late Alfredo Ferrari.

This is all real. Bay himself, Nelson, and industry insiders have discussed and reported this several times. Fact, not theory.


Ferrari...these guys are kinda pushy, aren't they?

Personally, I think the name stands out like a sore thumb, even more so than Hun-garr. Even since the G1 cartoons, I've been wondering how robots from an alien planet could possibly be named after items and elements that are native to Earth, a previously unknown planet until the Ark crash landed there--I'm lookin' at you, Jazz, Bumblebee, and Arcee.

Of course, it didn't matter back then because it was just a marketing gimmick to sell toys...well, it still IS, but I was hoping they'd avoid that in the modern iterations.
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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby FanimusMaximus » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:17 pm

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Can't we just say his name is Mirage and "Dino" could be his nickname? Because with Wheeljack, during the credits, his name came up as Que/Wheeljack.
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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby Autobot032 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:27 pm

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FanimusMaximus wrote:Can't we just say his name is Mirage and "Dino" could be his nickname? Because with Wheeljack, during the credits, his name came up as Que/Wheeljack.


Well, once we get the toys, we can name them anything we want.
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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:32 pm

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FanimusMaximus wrote:Can't we just say his name is Mirage and "Dino" could be his nickname? Because with Wheeljack, during the credits, his name came up as Que/Wheeljack.

That's how I'm calling it.
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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby Spleenzorio » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:10 am

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As cool as I think it is that they named him after an Italian (being Italian myself), I'm still going to call him Mirage just because that's more "Transformersesque" than Dino is. Plus whenever I think of Dino I see this:

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Re: Haven't watched the movie, but need to know something.

Postby Alex Jones » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:01 pm

Just another example of the unfortunate effect of commerce interfering with artistic licenses.
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